Texas waitlist thread. Good luck everyone.

[TexasFool]

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texas waitlist thread.

Let's talk about the schools, how they handle waitlists, and what to expect.

I just called all the schools that I want info on their waitlists.

A&M: I'm on their waitlist
UTSA: won't come out until end of Feb
Texas Tech: Will come out on the 10th
UTSW: I'm on hold. no wait ring ring, on hold again. ring ring. "Hi can you hold" on hold again. ring ring, on hold again. "call back monday"

What we can do now is call A&M, find out if you are on the wait list. Remember that their school is small and their list is small. So if you are not on their waitlist, you may be on another school's waitlist.



Let's start a waitlist list.

UTSW

UTSA

UTH

UTMB

TT

A&M
LEDevolld, rank(UTSW>UTSA>TT>A&M) 0/4 baby! yeah!!!!!!

TCOM

 

[potato51]

Good luck to everyone. Here is a waitlist thread from last year that shows when UTSW and UTH movement occurred http://forums.drslounge.com/showthread.php?t=185433

Last year's Texas Waitlist thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=178011

 

[BaylorGuy]

Numbers to call for the schools to see if you are on the waitlist

A&M: 979-845-7743
UTSA: 210-567-6080
Texas Tech: 806-743-2297
UTSW: 214-648-5617
UTMB: 409-772-3517
UT-Houston: 713-500-5116
TCOM: 800-535-8266



Let's start a waitlist list.

UTSW

UTSA

UTH

UTMB

TT

A&M
LEDevolld, rank(UTSW>UTSA>TT>A&M) 0/4 baby! yeah!!!!!!

TCOM



I haven't called yet, but will once i get out of work....GL all

 

[TexasFool]

If you are waitlisted at a TMDSAS school and you are accepted into Baylor or an OOS school, please make up your mind really fast to help out fellow texas students. The faster you make up your mind the faster we can move the waitlist.

Remeber in an OOS school you can always come back for residency and for Baylor, well it's the best in Texas.

 

[thinmints]

A&M -

last year they had 90 people on the waitlist and 2 people made it.

 

[Canuck99]

i am gonna join the waitlist crew. anyone know how TCOM handles their waitlist?

 

[sj786]

i am gonna join the waitlist crew. anyone know how TCOM handles their waitlist?

I am on their waitlist. They said they don't tell where on list you are.
did you call them?

 

[sj786]

i am gonna join the waitlist crew. anyone know how TCOM handles their waitlist?

I am on their waitlist. They said they don't tell where on list you are.
did you call them?

 

[Canuck99]

I am on their waitlist. They said they don't tell where on list you are.
did you call them?

I just got a letter in the mail which said that I am in fact on their waitlist.

They wont say where on the list you are? I would really like to know. How did you find out that you were waitlisted?

 

[midwest77]

I called UTH to see if Out Of State applicants were on the waitlist and they are. I dont know if this is good news for you in staters or not but just a FYI. They also said their list isnt ranked. I just dont understand how a waitlist couldnt be ranked? What about the people who missed an acceptance by like one person or something..now they are equal with everyone else who was much farther away from getting accepted??? Anyone know how many people are on the UTH waitlist?

 

[TexasFool]

they probably look at the list and kind of pick out the applicant they like best without a strict rank. who knows. I'm going to apply to lots of schools next year and get a variety.

 

[midwest77]

Let's start a waitlist list.

UTSW


UTSA


UTH
midwest77: Out of State (they said the waitlist was around 175 people)

UTMB


TT


A&M
LEDevolld, rank(UTSW>UTSA>TT>A&M) 0/4 baby! yeah!!!!!!


TCOM

 

[aTmchick06]

I am on the UTH waitlist (in state), and I got accepted to UTHSCSA.....

 

[Canuck99]

Let's start a waitlist list.

UTSW


UTSA


UTH
midwest77: Out of State (they said the waitlist was around 175 people)

UTMB


TT


A&M
LEDevolld, rank(UTSW>UTSA>TT>A&M) 0/4 baby! yeah!!!!!!


TCOM
canuck99

 

[fotolilith]

I called UTH to see if Out Of State applicants were on the waitlist and they are. I dont know if this is good news for you in staters or not but just a FYI. They also said their list isnt ranked. I just dont understand how a waitlist couldnt be ranked? What about the people who missed an acceptance by like one person or something..now they are equal with everyone else who was much farther away from getting accepted??? Anyone know how many people are on the UTH waitlist?

They like replacing students who reject their acceptance with someone in a similar category (ie, non-science major with non science major, URM with URM, etc)...which is why all along you are "competing" with someone who is exactly like you for a spot. Usually, after interviews they will "accept" 1/2 the applicants from that round, and reject the rest. Then they gather the grouping of people they "accepted" and divide up the list into people they think would be a great fit at UTH (higher on the list), and people who might be better elsewhere (lower on the list).

In all, they tend to put about 200 people on the waitlist, and just wait for applicants to decline (until May/June). But a lot of people got their acceptance even into August, so don't give up hope. (This is what a friend of mine on last year's admissions UTH board told me, tho things will be changing soon).

 

[TexasFool]

I think my mistake was listening to this Texas School hype

I only applied to texas schools except Baylor. (just TMDSAS)

my stats
Premed last three years: 3.92
Total: 3.2

MCAT: 37Q

volunteer: plenty
extrcir: yes, and I held officer positions

interviews: all went well


I did however have an injury in a rugby game that resulted in me failing some classes a long time ago.

If I had applied lots of out of state schools then I would probably be going to med school this summer

So if I reapply next year I'll be reminding texas residents to apply to lots of schools out of state and don't waste a year like me.

 

[TexasFool]

Based on AAMC the number of Texas applicants is rising, past 3000 now

In texas 36.6% of in-staters will get in

West virginia is 50%
South Carolina is 42%
Mississippi is 43.4%
Kentucky is 46.6%
Arkansas is 49.1%
alabama is 42.4
and there are more

I'm not saying texas is bad, I am saying is that a lot more states have it good. I'm going to fight the hype next year so that people can apply out of state also and avoid being 0/4 or something.

We need to help each other and by helping each other increase our chances we help ourselves. 😉

I'm going to apply to 20+ schools if I can.

 

[UserNameNeeded]

Thanks for the info, fotolilith.

UTH seems like it sucks-- I should have known, like all of the admissions dean (Southwestern, San Antonio, A&M in TX alone), Dr. Gunn was so lying when he was talking about how fairly the adcom critiques applicants. But to know they group you into a subcategory because your this or that is totally dehumanizing. No wonder Dr. Gunn reads that so many of his UTH admits/graduates lose their license to practice medicine after they get it.

Their interview days were so horribly organized and their staff-- even the secretaries-- were so inept and rude. So glad I don't have to deal with that mess of a school now.

But, good luck to everyone that matched there or will get de-waitlisted and accepted. The TMC is unbeatable and I'm sure you guys will have a great experience there!

 

[UserNameNeeded]

Based on AAMC the number of Texas applicants is rising, past 3000 now

In texas 36.6% of in-staters will get in

West virginia is 50%
South Carolina is 42%
Mississippi is 43.4%
Kentucky is 46.6%
Arkansas is 49.1%
alabama is 42.4
and there are more

I'm not saying texas is bad, I am saying is that a lot more states have it good. I'm going to fight the hype next year so that people can apply out of state also and avoid being 0/4 or something.

We need to help each other and by helping each other increase our chances we help ourselves. 😉

I'm going to apply to 20+ schools if I can.

Yeah, my pre-med advisor has been lying to me all of these years telling me how good TX applicants have it. I would have applied OOS if I knew the chances are 1 in 3 and that class sizes for TX schools are between 100 and 200. WTF? How can you have a real medical school with that few students?

Other states know what they're doing with their class sizes being 500+.

 

[TexasFool]

Yeah, my pre-med advisor has been lying to me all of these years telling me how good TX applicants have it. I whould have applied OOS if I knew the chances are 1 in 3 and that class sizes for TX schools are between 100 and 200. WTF? How can you have a real medical school with that few students?

Other states know what they're doing with their class sizes being 500+.

I'm already making a list of schools for next summer apps.

I have a texas medical school (except Baylor) conspiracy theory, but I'll start a thread on it later to add some drama when we're applying again next year. 😀

 

[midwest77]

LED...i dont think you should be so pessimistic...your stats are great and you still have a chance of getting accepted. This whole med school process is pretty unpredictable...even at out of state schools. i am not sure how much your chances go up by applying to 15+ schools. if you do have to reapply i would say apply to a few "shoe in" few "maybe's" and a few "dream"....obv the hard part is the shoe in schools since it doesnt seem like any exist these days but i feel like it would be a complete crap shoot if you didnt get in with stats like yours....good luck to you!

 

[chaeymaey]

I'm already making a list of schools for next summer apps.

I have a texas medical school (except Baylor) conspiracy theory, but I'll start a thread on it later to add some drama when we're applying again next year. 😀

Please share

 

[TexasFool]

LED...i dont think you should be so pessimistic...your stats are great and you still have a chance of getting accepted. This whole med school process is pretty unpredictable...even at out of state schools. i am not sure how much your chances go up by applying to 15+ schools. if you do have to reapply i would say apply to a few "shoe in" few "maybe's" and a few "dream"....obv the hard part is the shoe in schools since it doesnt seem like any exist these days but i feel like it would be a complete crap shoot if you didnt get in with stats like yours....good luck to you!

There are lots of schools out there that a texas resident can apply to and have a chance to get in. Every chance counts.

My point is we should start to promote application out of state. Talk like it's not worth applying out of state results in a squeeze here because if everyone here only applies in texas, what's going to happen? Stronger competition here. Tell you friends it is smart to apply out of state. Tell new premeds to be sure to apply out of state.

Don't shoot yourself in the foot like me.

 

[TexasFool]

Yeah, my pre-med advisor has been lying to me all of these years telling me how good TX applicants have it. I would have applied OOS if I knew the chances are 1 in 3 and that class sizes for TX schools are between 100 and 200. WTF? How can you have a real medical school with that few students?

Other states know what they're doing with their class sizes being 500+.

look at http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2005/2005slrmat.htm

and all state schools tend to be small so I don't know where 500+ came from. It's just the school/applicant ratio is larger in some states. We are not blessed in texas.

 

[slummyfrog]

I mentioned on the Texas thread that I called Tech and they said their list would be available Feb 10th. They also said that you would get a letter if you were on it.

UTSA said theirs would be available towards the end of the month.

Good luck guys/ girls. I'm in the same boat as ya'll. I was also a re-applicant.

 

[tweetledee]

I'm on the waitlist for UTH...anyone know how many people they usually take off it every year/what my chances might be? I wish they'd let us send updates and letters of interest. 😎

 

[jon0013]

Thanks for the info, fotolilith.

UTH seems like it sucks-- I should have known, like all of the admissions dean (Southwestern, San Antonio, A&M in TX alone), Dr. Gunn was so lying when he was talking about how fairly the adcom critiques applicants. But to know they group you into a subcategory because your this or that is totally dehumanizing. No wonder Dr. Gunn reads that so many of his UTH admits/graduates lose their license to practice medicine after they get it.

Their interview days were so horribly organized and their staff-- even the secretaries-- were so inept and rude. So glad I don't have to deal with that mess of a school now.

But, good luck to everyone that matched there or will get de-waitlisted and accepted. The TMC is unbeatable and I'm sure you guys will have a great experience there!

whoa whoa whoa....what is this grouping bull$hit....im still apalled at the stats of some people who got into houston....lower gpa and sub 30 mcats...wtf is this? both me and my friend ranked Houston as #1 and didnt get it...we had the same stats...he's south asian, im east asian...

 

[potato51]

unfortunately the grouping theory makes sense if the schools have unranked waitlists. They want to maintain a "balance" in their class, so they look to replace withdrawn students with similar types (GPA/MCAT range, URM, age, sex, major, whatever category).

I don't get how the schools work either. Sometimes I wonder if they reject very qualified students because they think are 1) likely to rank them less than #1 and 2) likely to get acceptances into 'better' schools

 

[jon0013]

whoa whoa whoa....what is this grouping bull$hit....im still apalled at the stats of some people who got into houston....lower gpa and sub 30 mcats...wtf is this? both me and my friend ranked Houston as #1 and didnt get it...we had the same stats...he's south asian, im east asian...

im not on the waitlist...supposedly Gunn will gimme a call but i doubt it...i dont wanna pout or anything but im just surprised at how little love i've gotten from my home state of 17 years in comparison to out of states...

but i did ask if it looks bad to turn down an acceptance from another texas school and the lady at houston said yeah...i asked bout transfers and she said no transfers so pretty much im SOL...

 

[UserNameNeeded]

im not on the waitlist...supposedly Gunn will gimme a call but i doubt it...i dont wanna pout or anything but im just surprised at how little love i've gotten from my home state of 17 years in comparison to out of states...

but i did ask if it looks bad to turn down an acceptance from another texas school and the lady at houston said yeah...i asked bout transfers and she said no transfers so pretty much im SOL...

The secretary at the admissions office said Dr. Gunn will call you if you're completely rejected?

What do you mean "it looks bad to turn down an acceptance from another texas school?"

And they don't admit transfer applicants? That's strange. There has to be a lot of transfers/non-trads admitted to that school. When I was interviewing there, all of the med students looked like they were in their 30s and 40s. Hardly anyone in their early-20s.

 

[chaeymaey]

The secretary at the admissions office said Dr. Gunn will call you if you're completely rejected?

What do you mean "it looks bad to turn down an acceptance from another texas school?"

And they don't admit transfer applicants? That's strange. There has to be a lot of transfers/non-trads admitted to that school. When I was interviewing there, all of the med students looked like they were in their 30s and 40s. Hardly anyone in their early-20s.

I don't know why Dr. Gunn would call you unless you asked to speak with him. I was told that I would just receive a rejection letter in the mail. If I remember correctly, jon0013 got into Texas Tech and St. Louis U. My guess is that it looks bad to UTH if he turns down Tech and that if he wanted to transfer to UTH after 2 years at SLU they would not accept that. That part seems strange since I think almost all med schools accept transfers after the first 2 years.

 

[Canuck99]

Sorry if this question has already been asked, but does anyone know typically how movement there is off the waitlist? I really have no idea how to gauge the chances of getting in off a waitlist.

 

[BlinkyCat]

whoa whoa whoa....what is this grouping bull$hit....im still apalled at the stats of some people who got into houston....lower gpa and sub 30 mcats...wtf is this? both me and my friend ranked Houston as #1 and didnt get it...we had the same stats...he's south asian, im east asian...

I'm asian too..also rejected.....

 

[midwest77]

I'm on the waitlist for UTH...anyone know how many people they usually take off it every year/what my chances might be? I wish they'd let us send updates and letters of interest. 😎

they dont let you send updates or letters of interest??????

 

[TexasFool]

Already made a list of 28 schools for next year and adding more. Wonder if you can look at secondaries early on some schools.
May have to sell my car.

 

[relema]

The secretary at the admissions office said Dr. Gunn will call you if you're completely rejected?

What do you mean "it looks bad to turn down an acceptance from another texas school?"

And they don't admit transfer applicants? That's strange. There has to be a lot of transfers/non-trads admitted to that school. When I was interviewing there, all of the med students looked like they were in their 30s and 40s. Hardly anyone in their early-20s.

Actually i would say at least 85%-90% of our class is in their early 20s. we have oh about 15 students that are 30 or older. One student that is 19 and someone who just turned 21.
I think my school goes on the idea if you make it into an interview you are qualified to go to med school. They are just trying to pick students that have certain traits or personality. If they choose just based on grades i think they would be turing down personable, unique people who will make great doctors.I am very glad that they choose my class mates they are wonderful people and they fit well here.

For those of you on the wait-list don't worry i know people who made it off the wait list right up to a week before class started. Don't give up hope.

 

[jon0013]

Actually i would say at least 85%-90% of our class is in their early 20s. we have oh about 15 students that are 30 or older. One student that is 19 and someone who just turned 21.
I think my school goes on the idea if you make it into an interview you are qualified to go to med school. They are just trying to pick students that have certain traits or personality. If they choose just based on grades i think they would be turing down personable, unique people who will make great doctors.I am very glad that they choose my class mates they are wonderful people and they fit well here.

For those of you on the wait-list don't worry i know people who made it off the wait list right up to a week before class started. Don't give up hope.

i guess im not personable nor unique.....and i guess that because i emphasized that i work hard and such im a nerd...maybe i shouda spent my interview talking about basketball or how i enjoy drinking every thurs-saturday.....i guess my interview sucked bc my interviewer didnt even have the right file so i had to tell them all my info...and my other interviewer spent 10 min asking me about my family and other things and then said "i need to ask you something serious" so he asked me bout a healthcare problem regarding obese people and i gave him my perspectives and he said "very well done, you know your healthcare"...so im tryin to think of ways i could have presented myself as a fun person..,maybe i shoulda said i enjoy drinking $1 ritas with my sister at happy hour....

but anyhow i asked to speak to someone about my file and the lady said gunn would call...30 min later i get a call from a blocked # and miss it...gunn leaves a message saying This is Dr. Gunn from Houston returning your call..but theres no call back # so i call the school and try to get transferred to him but he was on the other line..

but yeah i just wanted to hear his perspective on my application and so i can understand what went wrong and move on because honestly UT-H was my #1 from the beginning and i woulda paid OOS tuition to go there over st louis or any other school i applied to...and to not be on the waitlist hurt taht much more..

 

[dancer75088]

I am new to this forum... Wish I knew about it sooner.... Anyways, I am in the same boat as most of you. I am on the alternate list for UTH.

 

[tweetledee]

they dont let you send updates or letters of interest??????

unfortunately, no. I called the admissions office today and the woman I spoke to said they don't accept updates/letters of interest. I at least wanted the chance to tell them what I've been up to this year, oh well 🙄

 

[copthorne]

for those of you questioning "grouping" at uth and complaints about being asian, i came upon this on the utmb site...

As authorized by the Board of Regents, and subject to the approval of the U. T. System, the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston has added race and ethnicity to the broad range of criteria considered for student admission and for awarding of scholarships and fellowships beginning with the academic year 2006-2007.

 

[GoodEats]

Hey, so did you guys call to find out you were waitlisted at UTH? My friend did not match, but really wants to go, and I think it'd be best if he knew sooner rather than later where he stands. (He's asian as well...it'll be interesting to see what the composition of the incoming class looks like, won't it? He's got a 3.5+ GPA, 32 MCAT, research, amazing clinical experiences....just super surprised he didn't match.)

 

[BlinkyCat]

Actually i would say at least 85%-90% of our class is in their early 20s. we have oh about 15 students that are 30 or older. One student that is 19 and someone who just turned 21.
I think my school goes on the idea if you make it into an interview you are qualified to go to med school. They are just trying to pick students that have certain traits or personality. If they choose just based on grades i think they would be turing down personable, unique people who will make great doctors.I am very glad that they choose my class mates they are wonderful people and they fit well here.

For those of you on the wait-list don't worry i know people who made it off the wait list right up to a week before class started. Don't give up hope.

So alot of us got rejected because we are not "unique" or "personable"? I am personally offended by that....

 

[Mizuno]

So alot of us got rejected because we are not "unique" or "personable"? I am personally offended by that....

I think that Texas is becoming more and more like California where the asian candidate must do much more to make himself or herself standout. (i.e. close to the 4.0/40 ideal and then one heck of a list of EC's or research) I can see Texas getting to California's level in about 10 years max.

 

[jon0013]

So alot of us got rejected because we are not "unique" or "personable"? I am personally offended by that....

hahaha yah i was also yesterday...oh wells.....shoulda gone to a division 3 school and played basketball and then maybe they woulda thought i was personable..or maybe i shouldnt have talked about my research...and when the lady asked "use 3 adjectives ur best friend would describe you as" i shouldnt have said hardworking and determined but rather something along the lines of party animal...

i didnt even get an int from utmb so the race grouping prob played a roll...some other posters didnt get interviewed also but matched at dallas..go figure...

 

[TexasFool]

I think that Texas is becoming more and more like California where the asian candidate must do much more to make himself or herself standout. (i.e. close to the 4.0/40 ideal and then one heck of a list of EC's or research) I can see Texas getting to California's level in about 10 years max.

I can tell you why we will be like california soon.

Texas schools promote reapplication. I noticed more people are going to be reapplying every year. Every year a group of new fresh premeds apply and old ones reapply, which causes the application pool to increase. I blame this on the fact that very few texas students apply out of State (just check the MDapplicants and do a search for TX). Yes it is expensive OOS but in the real world (outside of texas) medical school is expensive. If we applied out of state and got in then fewer of us would reapply the next cycle and there would be fewer applicants.
So go make yourself a list of the schools that accept out of staters based on your stats, some schools like different things. And reapply to lots of OOS schools next year. Apply to at least 5 out of state.

 

[relema]

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[relema]

So alot of us got rejected because we are not "unique" or "personable"? I am personally offended by that....

I apologize for personaly offending people. My reasons for posting were to let you guys know that you are all going to do great in med school , not to give up hope, and that every school looks for a certain thing. My school looks for certain things that make our classes cohesive. My wording was not meant to make those who are wait listed or not wait listed feel like they are not interesting people. Everyone will end up at the place that suits them best even if they don't know it now. I think many of you think that you want to go to UTH but may find wherever you end up, that it was a better match for you, or maybe you will end up at UTH and wonder why it took the adcoms so long to let you in. As for now, i will post no longer in this thread as i seem to not be helping anyone out.

 

[arkroyal]

I think that Texas is becoming more and more like California where the asian candidate must do much more to make himself or herself standout. (i.e. close to the 4.0/40 ideal and then one heck of a list of EC's or research) I can see Texas getting to California's level in about 10 years max.

good thing my parents gave birth to me when they did or i would be screwed

 

[BaylorGuy]

FYI, called UTSW, they are making a waitlist that will be available on Monday.

 

[UserNameNeeded]

and when the lady asked "use 3 adjectives ur best friend would describe you as" i shouldnt have said hardworking and determined but rather something along the lines of party animal...

LMAO! Jon...when did you interview at UT-H? Was this interviewer an ER doc and did you interview with her in a conference room in the library building? I think I might have had her, too, and she just unnerved me.

Anyway, I think the reason why so many people want to get into UT-H has nothing to do with the school, but everything to do with the TMC. Who wouldn't want a classroom like the TMC? And, unfortunately, it seems UT-H rests almost entirely on that fact to lure applicants/matriculants.