1. Dismiss Notice
  2. Download free Tapatalk for iPhone or Tapatalk for Android for your phone and follow the SDN forums with push notifications.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Hey Texans—join us for a DFW meetup! Click here to learn more.
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice

Interview Feedback: Visit Interview Feedback to view and submit interview information.

Interviewing Masterclass: Free masterclass on interviewing from SDN and Medical College of Georgia

The Big Expense of X-Country Moving

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by lilgecko, Apr 28, 2004.

  1. lilgecko

    lilgecko Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2003
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    $1743 for a 10-foot (studio apt size) u-haul truck to move from CA to Pittsburgh and that's just for the truck! This just seems like an incredible amount of money to me!! To have a full-service mover load and haul my stuff will be $1800.

    Has anyone else been looking into moving from the West Coast to the East? If so, have you found any good deals?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Note: SDN Members do not see this ad.

  3. Brickhouse

    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2003
    Messages:
    4,173
    Likes Received:
    9
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]

    yes - no.

    Cal to DC, I'm sure I'll be paying an arm and a leg for the move. I've heard most quotes around $1400 though. Keep shopping.
     
  4. DrWuStar

    DrWuStar YUM
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2003
    Messages:
    657
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]
    i have not looked into it that hard, but my fiance has been working on moving plans. it is damn expensive. he agrees with you that renting a truck and driving yourself isn't much cheaper at all. and you have to do all that heavy lifting. :eek: i really hate moving. anyway, we have decided to hire movers and just drive ourselves in our car and take our time and see some national parks and stuff. i think having an enjoyable, low-stress trip will be well worth the extra couple hundred bucks it costs to have someone else shlep our stuff across the country. i would think hard about whether all the stress of moving yourself is worth the couple hundred bucks you'll save. i think you kind of have to just give in to the fact that moving cross country is expensive. another option would be to sell all your furniture and buy new stuff when you get there.

    ps: in my experience, it is worth sizing up from what U-haul recommends (as in 10-ft truck for studio). their estimate is based on highly skilled packing of the truck. for those of us who just kind of cram everything in there, it takes a bigger truck to get the job done.
     
  5. ashkan33

    ashkan33 expert timewaster
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2002
    Messages:
    137
    Likes Received:
    0
    i'm in the same boat. ca--->chi. it's a rip off man. there's no way in hell i'll be moving my stufffor $1400 dollars. so i decided to just rent a van, throw my bed, desk, tv, nightstand and clothes in there, and drive the sh!t over myself. it's only going to cost $350 + a 3 day headache(driving myself). 3 days for 4 years of furniture. i think it's worth it though. a queen bed will fit in an astro van and you could always slap your bed on top of a minivan(drive carefully though).

    happy moving
     
  6. rebeclette

    rebeclette Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2004
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm having the same delima, Ca to Philly, and after driving cross country twice to move with my parents out here two years ago I'm really not looking forward to it. I think that Budget is cheaper that U-haul, but maybe that was just on our trip. I'm debating just buying all new furniture out there and flying.
    One thing that my mom found previously is that if you change the city that you pick up and drop off the truck in it is less expensive. Its a little annoying, but it can save money. We moved to Oakland, but returned the truck to a town up in napa, and we picked the trucks up in a city about an hour away from where we lived.
     
  7. lilgecko

    lilgecko Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2003
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    For $1474, I can pack the stuff into their truck, they will drive it and then I get to unpack it. This quote comes from ABF U-Pack. Do you know of a specific company that will do it for less?
     
  8. I'm doing Phoenix to Baltimore and have priced a lot of options. Honestly, it is cheapest to ship my car by truck (about $700). Comparing gas and wear and tear on the car (damn 8-cyl gas guzzler) it's just worth it.

    Moreover, if you know where to look you can actually ship your stuff (non-breakable) by freight. It takes 2 weeks or so to get it there, but it's only like $100 per palette.....which is pretty good.

    I don't have a lot of nice stuff so am planning to just buy a lot of new cheap furniture when I get there.

    It's certainly a pain in the butt though.
     
  9. hapkidochic

    hapkidochic Senior Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2003
    Messages:
    167
    Likes Received:
    0
    i too am moving from california to pitt. it is definitely a daunting move. I think i'm going to leave all my furniture and big things in cali and just buy them new in pittsburgh (thank goodness for ikea and target!). I'm going to ship my books via usps using their book rate (several people have told me that this is significantly cheaper than anything else). And i think i'm going to try to fit all my clothes into luggage that i'll check on the flight to pitt (i'll be flying out there with my parents so between the three of us, that's quite a bit of luggage). and anything else that i absolutely must bring, i'll just ship in smallish boxes
     
  10. HBMD

    HBMD Beer does a body good
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2004
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    0
    Going from CA to WI.
    Getting rid of old, buying new = no shipping costs and an incredible amount of time spent at Ikea
     
  11. surfej

    surfej Junior Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2003
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Medical Student
    Take a look at www.upack.com, I have heard that it is cheaper than renting a uhaul and you only pay for the space you actually use. I am thinking about doing this to go from FL to Pitt.
     
  12. snapdad

    snapdad Rock and Roll Doctor
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Non-Student
    That is a really useful link...thanks! The price for a move from Denver to Philly seems to be about the same as if I just rented a truck, but if they do the driving, so much the better. Does anyone have any experience with this company?
     
  13. usmaple

    usmaple Senior Member
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2002
    Messages:
    172
    Likes Received:
    0
    We did something like this (same concept, different company) a few years back for a cross-country move. We had a bunch of problems with them, but in the end it was still cheaper than renting a moving van and driving out ourselves. If people are interested I'll make a post with some of the positives and negatives.

    This time around, we're going to try and post on Craigslist to see if anyone else is making the same move as we are, and then split a bigger moving truck among 2 or 3 different people/families. Splitting the work and the cost should make it cheaper, and we'll be able to meet a few people in the same moving situation as us. :thumbup:
     
  14. snapdad

    snapdad Rock and Roll Doctor
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Non-Student
    I would be very interested in hearing about the positives and negatives. I've actually never heard of this service before, and I'm thinking seriously about doing it. Taking gas into account, the price actually seems cheaper than the rental truck quotes I've received from Budget, U-Haul, etc.
     
  15. beriberi

    beriberi Senior Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2004
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    If you are considering letting people move your stuff cross country, then you should check out www.movingscam.org. It frightened me terribly. I will be renting and driving myself.

    To the OP, I have a feeling that the $1800 quote was a scam. Nobody moves anything that cheaply cross country.
     
  16. usmaple

    usmaple Senior Member
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2002
    Messages:
    172
    Likes Received:
    0
    All right, here goes. First off, this is how it worked when we did it (different company, so things might be slightly different, but I think the basics will be the same):
    - You schedule the pick-up. A truck with a big trailer comes and you fill it up.
    - This truck drops your trailer off at a local storage facility.
    - A different moving truck moves your trailer cross-country and drops it off at another storage facility near where you're moving to.
    - You schedule a delivery time. A truck picks up your trailer from the storage facility, brings it to your place, and you empty it out.

    Negatives:
    - If you live in a big city, the whole process can be a real pain since the logistics of parking a huge truck on a busy city street can be difficult. In our case, the police came multiple times due to complaints from neighbors and other drivers, which caused lots of problems. For this reason alone, we won't be using a company like this now since it would be physically impossible to fit one of their trailers anywhere around the place we live now for an extended period of time.
    - Lots of the "local" aspects are contracted out to whatever local company will work for them cheaply in the areas that your moving from/to. This can mean shoddy service, since the local companies don't always have all of the information they should. The guy who was supposed to bring the trailer to our new apartment didn't show up when he was supposed to, and neither us nor the company could get in contact with anyone from the storage facility for a full week. Finally, they gave us the option of either waiting another week for them to drop it off (which would have meant two full weeks with an empty apartment), or renting a U-Haul and getting our stuff from the storage facility ourselves. The money for the U-Haul was reimbursed, but obviously the uncertainty of not knowing where our stuff was and then having to go to a storage facility and drag everything out of the trailer was not an ideal situation. As another example, the truck driver they contracted to pick-up the trailer from us kept picking fights with anyone who complained about his truck, including the police (needless to say, this didn't help the situation and we ended up spending almost as much time acting as mediators than we did loading up the trailer).

    Obviously this all hinges on how dependable the local companies that they hire are, but just realize that lots of unforeseen problems can come up. From the UPack website, it looks like they're pretty professional and accountable about things, but prepare yourself for the worst.

    Positives:
    - Much cheaper than any other option we could find.
    - We were able to fly out to our new place rather than driving cross-country and staying in hotels, paying for gas, etc.
    - Assuming the scheduling works out (i.e. no major problems like we had), it's a little bit more flexible than renting a moving truck. Since students tend to move in bunches, it can get tough to find a moving truck if you're going during a "peak" time. The self-packing didn't have the same problem, if for no other reason than not nearly as many people know it about it as opposed to U-Haul, Budget, etc.
    - Much cheaper than any other option we could find.
    - Much cheaper than any other option we could find. ;)
     
  17. snapdad

    snapdad Rock and Roll Doctor
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Non-Student
    Great info...thanks!
     
  18. doctorvenkman

    doctorvenkman Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Am I the only one going East to West? I'm going NY-> LA, and I hear the cheapest way to go(if you're not moving giant stuff) is by Amtrak shipping. They will ship a boatload of stuff for the cheapest I've seen.
     
  19. lilgecko

    lilgecko Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2003
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    The $1800 quote came from National Moving Network. They have a US DOT license #...is there another sort of license # that they need to be legal? How would I go about finding out if they not kosher?
     
  20. MeowMix

    MeowMix Explaining "Post-Call"
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2003
    Messages:
    1,639
    Likes Received:
    11
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    The best thing you can do is get rid of as much stuff as possible before you move - will save a LOT of money.

    When we moved from eastern Canada to California, my housemate and I didn't move any furniture or kitchen stuff at all. Boxed up 16 boxes of personal things and books, and sent them by USPS parcel post; put a few extra things in his car (Z-28, not much space!). Total cost for me was $220. I sent my bike by Greyhound for about $45. (these are 1986 costs!) Left some personal stuff with my family, got rid of everything else.

    p.s. I know you aren't going to believe me, but get rid of your undergrad notes and textbooks.
     
  21. celticmists18

    celticmists18 california dreaming
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Messages:
    427
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Medical Student
    I definitely second all the advice on buying new cheap stuff when you get there (thank GOD they are opening an IKEA in Philly this summer). I was wondering if anyone knew of a good way to ship electronics (stereo system, TV, DVD player, expresso maker, etc.)? What is the deal with the usps book rate? Thanks!
     
  22. MeowMix

    MeowMix Explaining "Post-Call"
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2003
    Messages:
    1,639
    Likes Received:
    11
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    USPS media mail (book rate) is the cheapest way to send boxes of heavy stuff. You are only supposed to put books and videotapes etc. in these packages.
     
  23. lilgecko

    lilgecko Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2003
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    Just wanted to share some new info in case anyone is interested.

    a) I spoke with rep at Northstar moving (http://www.northstarmoving.com/). They are a full service moving company. 2000 lbs costs $1627 to move from the Bay Area to Pitt. The time ranges from 5 to 21 days in transit. I checked their record with the Better Business Bureau and they have a satisfactory record. This is the best full-service price I have found and it is <$200 more than the you load-we drive-you unload prices.

    b) If I wanted to rent a U-haul from CA, I found that I could rent one and drive it to Reno for $347, unload it and reload another U-haul, and drive that one from Reno to Pitt for $756. I would still have to pay for gas, tolls, food, lodging.

    Because I don't think I could replace my things for $1627, Northstar is looking pretty good.
     
  24. Neuronix

    Neuronix Total nerd
    Administrator Physician PhD Faculty SDN Advisor 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2002
    Messages:
    12,643
    Likes Received:
    1,597
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    This link doesn't seem to work. Did the site go down or do you have an updated link?
     
  25. Bobblehead

    Bobblehead Senior Member
    Physician 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2003
    Messages:
    685
    Likes Received:
    83
    Status:
    Attending Physician
  26. lilgecko

    lilgecko Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2003
    Messages:
    76
    Likes Received:
    0
    Wow, Thanks for the link.
     
  27. snapdad

    snapdad Rock and Roll Doctor
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Non-Student
    I found it at movingscam.com today...I think the ".org" must be a typo.
     
  28. beriberi

    beriberi Senior Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2004
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    Sorry about the incorrect link that was posted earlier. My bad.

    Here is a link for the OP (hopefully that works) about the company they are thinking about going with:

    http://badmovers.org/badmove/fom-serve/cache/94.html

    I am sure there are a lot of reasonable honest movers out there. However, my reading has led me to believe that the industry is so well protected and unregulated, and the consumer usually in a position where negotiation is impossible (i.e. with boxes packed, ready to have loaded into the truck on moving day) that there are a lot of bad apples out there who take advantage of people.

    One more about National Moving Network:

    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/movers/natl_moving.html
     
  29. FiveForFighting

    FiveForFighting Lee Burnett's Illegit Son
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    0
    east coast to midwest $200. It pays to have connections.
     
  30. snapdad

    snapdad Rock and Roll Doctor
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Non-Student
    Getianshi:

    Any recommendations as to truck/freight services? Those prices you found are really good.
     

  31. I'll see what I can find for you and get back to you. Most of this will be done through my dad's company, and they have a corporate account, discounts, etc. Even so, I think there are still some cheap freight options out there.
     
  32. tkim

    tkim 10 cc's cordrazine
    Physician 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2002
    Messages:
    7,611
    Likes Received:
    343
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    I made the move from Boston to LA last summer, and used movingscam.com extensively to search for options.

    I ultimately went with a Movex, which is a 'u pack, we haul' service, similar to ABF.

    The cost savings put it slightly lower than a full service mover, and a bit higher than a uhaul and drive cross country.

    We had two cars, and decided to sell one in order to avoid the $700-$1000 moving fee, and just buy another car when we got to Cali. Worked out good for us.

    This page is a good start:

    http://www.movingscam.com/news/findmover.shtml

    There are many, many moving scams out there. Tons of 'gypsy' movers that will low ball your quote, then either rip you off, hold your stuff 'hostage' for more money, or deliver your goods smashed up. Beware.
     
  33. WyldeWolf1

    WyldeWolf1 Get your own!
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2004
    Messages:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    My wife and I don't really don't have any furniture we intend to keep through the years, so we're selling it all. We're also getting rid of anything we don't either need during med school or intend to keep after med school (eg wedding photos, guitars). We're going to buy cheap furniture in Pennsylvania. Honestly, unless you're lucky and have a nice furniture set already, do you really have anything you're going to keep on a doctor's wages? Sell it!

    From the aforementioned http://www.movingadvocateteam.com/index.htm :

    2) The so-called "legit" industry is now writing the rules: Trade groups like the AMSA (American Moving and Storage Association) and others are now writing their own rules. The AMSA was even bold enough to change certain wording on the GOVERNMENT PAMPHLET, "Your Rights and Responsibilities When You Move" to the industries advantage and the DOT let them do it! Always keep in mind that these "Trade Groups" are paid by those they represent. Think about it, why would the AMSA or any trade group do anything that would take money from their greedy hands? The truth is, they do not want things to change. They just do a decent job of spinning the truth, we know better.

    As if I wasn't already worried about joining AMSA this fall....
     
  34. acab

    acab Senior Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2003
    Messages:
    331
    Likes Received:
    1
    I think USPS book rate allows you to ship books and cds only. It may take up to 14 days depending on the distance.
     
  35. Yeah, just ask for "media mail," they might open the box up and look at it as well because the rate is really a lot lower than 1st class.


    like you said, 8-14 days depending on where, but I've gotten media mail packages in as little as 3 days.
     

Share This Page