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[Arch Guillotti]

I think anyone who believes this crap is likely quite stupid. I think many followers are just bored and looking for an outlet.

Yep. And they have been in the White House and have a mouthpiece in one of their own.

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[deleted126335]

That's exactly the point. Expecting Alabama to not vote GOP outside extreme circumstances is ridiculous. That's how this whole tangent got started, by pointing out that even the reddest areas will go against the GOP if their candidate sucks enough like hopefully the QAnon supporting crazy pants from Georgia.

Betcha a dollar that Qanon crazy pants from Georgia wins easily.

 

[vector2]

That's exactly the point. Expecting Alabama to not vote GOP outside extreme circumstances is ridiculous. That's how this whole tangent got started, by pointing out that even the reddest areas will go against the GOP if their candidate sucks enough like hopefully the QAnon supporting crazy pants from Georgia.

There were contemporaneous yearbook signatures from that creep to girls who were underage at the time but that's not "extreme " enough to dissuade 48% of the Alabama electorate. Ok.

Also, that Qanon crazy has already won the primary in a district that went red 77% to 23% in 2018, a blue wave election year. The Qanon crazy is joining the house. And feel free to roll your eyes at my post about the craziest left vs right politicians. An eye roll is probably the best you can come up with because you'd be in for a rude awakening if you actually compared the "extremeness" of the public statements and policy positions of the furthest left serious candidate for political office with that nutjob who is going to win in GA.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Betcha a dollar that Qanon crazy pants from Georgia wins easily.

Very possibly, but I also wouldn't be surprised if she didn't.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

There were contemporaneous yearbook signatures from that creep to girls who were underage at the time but that's not "extreme " enough to dissuade 48% of the Alabama electorate. Ok.

Also, that Qanon crazy has already won the primary in a district that went red 77% to 23% in 2018, a blue wave election year. The Qanon crazy is joining the house. And feel free to roll your eyes at my post about the craziest left vs right politicians. An eye roll is probably the best you can come up with because you'd be in for a rude awakening if you actually compared the "extremeness" of the public statements and policy positions of the furthest left serious candidate for political office with that nutjob who is going to win in GA.

You're reading way too much into this (and being a bit too personal about it).

It was purely in response to your idea that the most radical idea of anyone on the left was healthcare for everyone. That was literally it.

 

[vector2]

You're reading way too much into this (and being a bit too personal about it).

It was purely in response to your idea that the most radical idea of anyone on the left was healthcare for everyone. That was literally it.

It seems like you’re reading into my post way too little. I very clearly said craziest “politician,” not craziest left or right “anyone” rando on the internet.

 

[vector2]

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[VA Hopeful Dr]

It seems like you’re reading into my post way too little. I very clearly said craziest “politician,” not craziest left or right “anyone” rando on the internet.

I meant politician (of course I could find SOMEONE with truly insane beliefs on the left) but I did word that poorly so that's on me.

But I stand by the idea that universal healthcare is not the craziest idea any politician on the left has.

 

[BLADEMDA]

Plenty of crazy ideas:

1. Reparations of $800k per black person. Many white/Asians never had ancestors who owned slaves and never even lived in American pre 1865.

2. 40 trillion on the green new deal. We don’t have 40-50 trillion lying around. Destroy our energy independence, drive up costs, restrict fossil fuel use and retrofit all our houses/buildings as mandated by the far left socialists

3. Allowing transgender Boys with Y Chromosomes to compete in female athletics/sports.

4. Using race to define who gets hired, promoted and given positions of authority.

5. Defund the police across America and replace with social workers.

6. Restrict free speech by replacing it with woke and cancel culture. Intimidate and destroy all who don’t agree with you. Replace freedom of ideas and speech with fear of being cancelled out by the left. No job, no home and no income.

These are just as dangerous and harmful as QAnon is to America.

 

[vector2]

Barring the outright distortions and misrepresentations that we’ve come to expect of blade’s posts recently, the underlying theme of his post is still that


-The craziest pols on the left mostly want to spend a lot of tax dollars to help even the playing field in an era where wealth and income equality are approaching levels from the Gilded Age pre-Depression, fight climate change which eventually will undoubtedly be an existential threat, and to use the power of government to correct systemic racism or other forms of discrimination which are still alive and well today

Whereas

-The craziest pols on the right are open anti-Semites who think trump should be empowered to fight Satan worshiping pedophiles. Oh yea, and btw COVID and 9/11 are both hoaxes.



Also, is Steve King still a member of the House?

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Barring the outright distortions and misrepresentations that we’ve come to expect of blade’s posts recently, the underlying theme of his post is still that


-The craziest pols on the left mostly want to spend a lot of tax dollars to help even the playing field in an era where wealth and income equality are approaching levels from the Gilded Age pre-Depression, fight climate change which eventually will undoubtedly be an existential threat, and to use the power of government to correct systemic racism or other forms of discrimination which are still alive and well today

Whereas

-The craziest pols on the right are open anti-Semites who think trump should be empowered to fight Satan worshiping pedophiles. Oh yea, and btw COVID and 9/11 are both hoaxes.



Also, is Steve King still a member of the House?

King is but lost his primary so he's out in January. And crazy Georgia lady apparently did admit that 9/11 happened as everyone else has said from the start. Better late than never I suppose.

Wasn't able to see if she'd backed down on the pedophile cult thing. The tweets about it were from 2017-2018 so it wouldn't be hard to just say "yeah I was wrong about that back then", but doesn't seem that she has.

 

[vector2]

King is but lost his primary so he's out in January. And crazy Georgia lady apparently did admit that 9/11 happened as everyone else has said from the start. Better late than never I suppose.

Wasn't able to see if she'd backed down on the pedophile cult thing. The tweets about it were from 2017-2018 so it wouldn't be hard to just say "yeah I was wrong about that back then", but doesn't seem that she has.

Renouncement or not, in my opinion 40 something year old businesswomen don't get to backtrack on emphatic, repeated support of Qanon, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, and 9/11 denialism. They are not highschool or college kids who did something dumb once on facebook and who now get a do-over.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Renouncement or not, in my opinion 40 something year old businesswomen don't get to backtrack on emphatic, repeated support of Qanon, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, and 9/11 denialism. They are not highschool or college kids who did something dumb once on facebook and who now get a do-over.

We may have to agree to disagree on this one. Admitting you were wrong, especially publicly, isn't easy and I'm OK with letting someone move forward from that point most of the time.

Otherwise Robert Byrd should never have been allowed to be a Senator and FDR shouldn't be held up for adoration (he said a lot of stuff about the press that would resonate well with Donald Trump). Everyone makes mistake or holds wrong beliefs. We should allow people to admit they were wrong and grow as a person without continually holding their past against them barring extreme circumstances (you don't get to apologize for murder and not go to jail, for example).

 

[Neopolymath]

QAnon Supporter Who Made Bigoted Videos Wins Ga. Primary, Likely Heading To Congress

President Trump is congratulating Marjorie Taylor Greene, calling her a "future Republican Star." Greene has endorsed a theory that satanic pedophiles secretly run the world.

www.npr.org

She is pretty far out there in terms of beliefs. I’d say she is extreme right and maybe a bit crazy too.

Obviously, if I lived in her district I would have voted for her opponent a neurosurgeon named Cowan.

The GOP has a few whackos just as the Dems do. Trump is mistaken in siding with Greene. I also don’t think Qanon really exists outside the internet.

QAnon absolutely exists outside the internet as evidenced by the guy changing my tires asking if I was a "digital soldier." The South is an interesting place.

 

[vector2]

We may have to agree to disagree on this one. Admitting you were wrong, especially publicly, isn't easy and I'm OK with letting someone move forward from that point most of the time.

Otherwise Robert Byrd should never have been allowed to be a Senator and FDR shouldn't be held up for adoration (he said a lot of stuff about the press that would resonate well with Donald Trump). Everyone makes mistake or holds wrong beliefs. We should allow people to admit they were wrong and grow as a person without continually holding their past against them barring extreme circumstances (you don't get to apologize for murder and not go to jail, for example).

There is a large difference between Robert Byrd growing up in WV in the 30s and 40s and renouncing his racism in the 50s.....vs some middle age white lady in the year of our lord 2017 being quite convinced about the very real threat of deep state Satan worshiping pedophiles, 9/11 denialism, and Soros being a nazi....only to renounce after she wins the primary. There are just some things that you can’t walk back out of political expediency in this century.

Ultimately yes, we will have to agree to disagree on those two situations being in the same universe let alone the same ballpark.

 

[teacher2md]

An otherwise rational adult drove to The DC pizza shop with an AR intending to overthrow the pedophile dungeon...

The Prophecies of Q

American conspiracy theories are entering a dangerous new phase.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Neopolymath]

My favorite part of pizzagate is that there literally isn't a basement hahaha.

 

[vector2]

Yep just an internet thing.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

There is a large difference between Robert Byrd growing up in WV in the 30s and 40s and renouncing his racism in the 50s.....vs some middle age white lady in the year of our lord 2017 being quite convinced about the very real threat of deep state Satan worshiping pedophiles, 9/11 denialism, and Soros being a nazi....only to renounce after she wins the primary. There are just some things that you can’t walk back out of political expediency in this century.

Ultimately yes, we will have to agree to disagree on those two situations being in the same universe let alone the same ballpark.

Not that it really matters, but I don't think that part is true.

He filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and voted no for the Voting Rights Act of 1965. In the 70s he did apologize for that though and completely renounced his segregationist views. But that was 20 years after he first made it to Congress.

 

[vector2]

Not that it really matters, but I don't think that part is true.

He filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and voted no for the Voting Rights Act of 1965. In the 70s he did apologize for that though and completely renounced his segregationist views. But that was 20 years after he first made it to Congress.

I should’ve clarified as “left the klan or stopped being an active klan member” in the 50s, not stopped being racist. But yes, you’re also correct that that point doesn’t really matter to the issue at hand vis a vis what’s happening in 2020 in Georgia.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

I should’ve clarified as “left the klan or stopped being an active klan member” in the 50s, not stopped being racist. But yes, you’re also correct that that point doesn’t really matter to the issue at hand vis a vis what’s happening in 2020 in Georgia.

Agreed, and if I lived there I'd vote against her (twice since I generally primary with the GOP). I guess I'm just hopeful that she'll turn out OK given that we have a long history in this country of people getting more reasonable after some time in Congress. Its not 100% of course, but it does happen.

I also hope that, either this year or 2024, whenever Trump leaves office we may get some return to normalcy. Probably foolish hope, but not much else to do about it.

 

[BLADEMDA]

This is from the Washington Post which is a very anti GOP newspaper. They openly admit QAnon does not enjoy support from the mainstream of Either party.

Most Floridians were unfavorable toward the QAnon movement; the average score on the feeling thermometer was 24, a negative rating both in absolute and comparative terms. Although QAnon is often referred to as a “right-wing” conspiracy theory, both Democrats and Republicans rated QAnon unfavorably. The average among Democrats was 22, and the average among Republicans was 27

Democrats and Republicans across the country similarly rated it 25 and 26, respectively on average. These findings corroborate other national polls showing that Democrats and Republicans view QAnon both negatively and similarly.

 

[BLADEMDA]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/03/who-supports-qanon-heres-what-our-new-poll-finds/

 

[deleted126335]

Agreed, and if I lived there I'd vote against her (twice since I generally primary with the GOP). I guess I'm just hopeful that she'll turn out OK given that we have a long history in this country of people getting more reasonable after some time in Congress. Its not 100% of course, but it does happen.

I also hope that, either this year or 2024, whenever Trump leaves office we may get some return to normalcy. Probably foolish hope, but not much else to do about it.

This is normal. Human beings have burned witches, risen to the defense of Joseph Stalin, fled their homes when Orson Wells told them that the Martians had landed. That's normal. Irrational, but normal.

 

[Goro]

This is normal. Human beings have burned witches, risen to the defense of Joseph Stalin, fled their homes when Orson Wells told them that the Martians had landed. That's normal. Irrational, but normal.

You forgot to add "like pineapple on pizza"

 

[Splenda88]

It seems like the race has not changed to much post conventions...

Wednesday, September 2

Race/Topic (Click to Sort)	Poll	Results	Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	CNN	Biden 51, Trump 43	Biden +8
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	USA Today/Suffolk	Biden 50, Trump 43	Biden +7
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	Grinnell/Selzer	Biden 49, Trump 41	Biden +8
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	Rasmussen Reports	Biden 49, Trump 45	Biden +4
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	Economist/YouGov	Biden 51, Trump 40	Biden +11
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	Quinnipiac	Biden 52, Trump 42	Biden +10
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	The Hill/HarrisX	Biden 46, Trump 40	Biden +6
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	IBD/TIPP	Biden 49, Trump 41	Biden +8
General Election: Trump vs. Biden vs. Jorgensen vs. Hawkins	USA Today/Suffolk	Biden 47, Trump 42, Jorgensen 1, Hawkins 0	Biden +5
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden	Monmouth*	Biden 49, Trump 46	Biden +3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden	FOX News*	Biden 50, Trump 42	Biden +8
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden	FOX News*	Biden 49, Trump 40	Biden +9
North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden	FOX News*	Biden 50, Trump 46	Biden +4
North Carolina Senate - Tillis vs. Cunningham	FOX News*	Cunningham 48, Tillis 42	Cunningham +6
Arizona Senate - McSally vs. Kelly	FOX News	Kelly 56, McSally 39	Kelly +17
President Trump Job Approval	CNN	Approve 41, Disapprove 54	Disapprove +13
President Trump Job Approval	Quinnipiac	Approve 43, Disapprove 54	Disapprove +11
President Trump Job Approval	IBD/TIPP	Approve 39, Disapprove 55	Disapprove +16
President Trump Job Approval	Grinnell/Selzer	Approve 43, Disapprove 51	Disapprove +8
President Trump Job Approval	USA Today/Suffolk	Approve 45, Disapprove 52	Disapprove +7

 

[Splenda88]

North Carolina officials outraged by Trump telling citizens to vote twice (for him)

President Trump's encouraging North Carolinians to try to vote twice is an attempt to “sow chaos” in the state’s election, according to the state attorney general.

www.yahoo.com

Lol...

 

[Splenda88]

Former GOP Michigan governor endorses Biden, calls Trump a ‘bully’

The former vice president has now received the formal backing of the Midwestern swing state’s two most recent governors.

www.yahoo.com

 

[vector2]

Former GOP Michigan governor endorses Biden, calls Trump a ‘bully’

The former vice president has now received the formal backing of the Midwestern swing state’s two most recent governors.

www.yahoo.com

Did not expect him endorsing Joe Biden...

Biden picks up endorsements from nearly 100 Republicans

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden (D) was endorsed Thursday by a group representing almost 100 former Republican lawmakers and officials who have joined an effort to defeat Presid…

thehill.com

we're approaching a critical mass where trump and his sycophants calling literally everyone a "never trumper" is like mccarthy calling literally everyone a communist

 

[Southpaw]

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.

www.theatlantic.com

There are no words for just how awful a human being Donald Trump is.

 

[vector2]

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.

www.theatlantic.com

There are no words for just how awful a human being Donald Trump is.

One of the most infuriating things about all these stories is the number of "senior staffers" who feel fine sharing these awful quotes and behavior from trump anonymously but who don't have the courage to quit their jobs, go on the record, and tell the country what a dangerous babbling idiot baby he is. Worse still is that these people will probably also face no consequences, but rather just continue in the revolving door of politics and lobbying

 

[deleted126335]

One of the most infuriating things about all these stories is the number of "senior staffers" who feel fine sharing these awful quotes and behavior from trump anonymously but who don't have the courage to quit their jobs, go on the record, and tell the country what a dangerous babbling idiot baby he is. Worse still is that these people will probably also face no consequences, but rather just continue in the revolving door of politics and lobbying

They were picked for their loyalty to him. Not the duties of their office.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

They were picked for their loyalty to him. Not the duties of their office.

And according to that article they suck at that part too...

 

[Matty44]

Gotta love anonymous sources with no proof and no accountability. It’s gotta be true...

 

[deleted126335]

Gotta love anonymous sources with no proof and no accountability. It’s gotta be true...

I certainly don't believe every accusation against Trump, but given what he has openly said and done, I have yet to hear an allegation that I reacted to with the sentiment, "that is just not possible, no way could that be true". There are plenty of politicians whose beliefs were completely the opposite of mine where that wasn't true.

Do you really find it impossible to believe that he might have actually said that about those who gave the last full measure of devotion to their country?

 

[thinkorswim]

Gotta love anonymous sources with no proof and no accountability. It’s gotta be true...

Right, because those that have spoken out publicly against Trump have received so much more credibility. These folks aren't immediately labeled as disgruntled former employees, accused of treasonous behavior, and mercilessly attacked for their apparent ineptitude (which oddly never bothered the orange baby so long as they kept quiet).

Wake up dude. Where there's smoke, there's fire. And let's face it, this administration is a raging wildfire.

 

[Matty44]

I certainly don't believe every accusation against Trump, but given what he has openly said and done, I have yet to hear an allegation that I reacted to with the sentiment, "that is just not possible, no way could that be true". There are plenty of politicians whose beliefs were completely the opposite of mine where that wasn't true.

Do you really find it impossible to believe that he might have actually said that about those gave the last full measure of devotion to their country?

I don’t find it impossible. I find it unlikely though. And it’s kind of the whole boy who cried wolf thing. When your hear lie after lie after lie and intentional misreporting after intentional misreporting then it makes me just a tad bit skeptical to believe anonymous sources from news outlets that obviously are anti-Trump. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not, but it’s a bit hard to jump to “OMG, I can’t believe he said that!”

 

[nimbus]

I don’t find it impossible. I find it unlikely though. And it’s kind of the whole boy who cried wolf thing. When your hear lie after lie after lie and intentional misreporting after intentional misreporting then it makes me just a tad bit skeptical to believe anonymous sources from news outlets that obviously are anti-Trump. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not, but it’s a bit hard to jump to “OMG, I can’t believe he said that!”

We don’t need anonymous sources. Trump is a blabbering idiot.

 

[Ezekiel2517]

Fox News confirms everything in the the Atlantic article. Thread:

 

[Ezekiel2517]

There is literally a tweet for everything.

 

[Neopolymath]

My grandfather and I have a great relationship and often have very candid discussions about the world. There isn't anything taboo during our conversations and he isn't some truly hateful old person like I encounter in the South with alarming frequency. True to his generation, he was a successful business man who unsurprisingly voted Republican his whole life given his demographic. During a recent conversation, he said something that stuck with me regarding the president. While talking about something in the hospital, I once said that a doctor might do something differently than another doctor, but in general, every physician knows that the other doctors are doing what they think is the best for their patient even if they might approach the case differently. He brought that up again by saying that he didn't particularly like XYZ politicans over the years but he had faith that the person wanted what they thought was best for America at the time and in the end that meant an awful lot toward getting work done. He said that Trump destroyed what was left of that aspect of America and I certainly agree. It's pretty sad just how bad this dude is and what he has changed regarding decorum and just plain old being a decent guy following the law despite no one being able to stop him. It's honestly pathetic.

 

[AMEHigh]

My grandfather and I have a great relationship and often have very candid discussions about the world. There isn't anything taboo during our conversations and he isn't some truly hateful old person like I encounter in the South with alarming frequency. True to his generation, he was a successful business man who unsurprisingly voted Republican his whole life given his demographic. During a recent conversation, he said something that stuck with me regarding the president. While talking about something in the hospital, I once said that a doctor might do something differently than another doctor, but in general, every physician knows that the other doctors are doing what they think is the best for their patient even if they might approach the case differently. He brought that up again by saying that he didn't particularly like XYZ politicans over the years but he had faith that the person wanted what they thought was best for America at the time and in the end that meant an awful lot toward getting work done. He said that Trump destroyed what was left of that aspect of America and I certainly agree. It's pretty sad just how bad this dude is and what he has changed regarding decorum and just plain old being a decent guy following the law despite no one being able to stop him. It's honestly pathetic.

Yep exactly.
What a loser.
You could see it coming from a mile away when he started campaigning.

And on the heels of an Obama presidency where he essentially had to be perfect in the decorum department because heaven forbid a Black man speak incorrectly, it’s even more jarring.

 

[DarkHorizon]

I don’t find it impossible. I find it unlikely though. And it’s kind of the whole boy who cried wolf thing. When your hear lie after lie after lie and intentional misreporting after intentional misreporting then it makes me just a tad bit skeptical to believe anonymous sources from news outlets that obviously are anti-Trump. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not, but it’s a bit hard to jump to “OMG, I can’t believe he said that!”

Lara Trump campaigns with ‘proud Islamophobe’ Jewish congressional candidate

Laura Loomer, a conspiracy theorist, gets friendly visit from US president's daughter-in-law

www.timesofisrael.com

How about this? I’m no snowflake but you and others on this forum have parroted that trump is somehow for inclusion and not divisive at all. I mean what’s the move here? This woman Loomer is one of the most vile and hateful person around, and Trump openly supported her and now trump family is actively campaigning on her behalf. Absolutely sickening. Not a single ounce of integrity or decency, just more division to rile up the base for political points. I assume you’re at least objective and educated enough to see this play, but your continued support for Trump and his crew and not calling out things for what they are, really speak for itself. It would be better if you just admit that you don’t care instead of all the mental gymnastics. A person like Laura Loomer should be called out for their vile agenda, but Trump and the Republican Party are actively embracing and are going to let her run on Republican ticket. This is the world we’re living in.

 

[nimbus]

 

[Matty44]

Lara Trump campaigns with ‘proud Islamophobe’ Jewish congressional candidate

Laura Loomer, a conspiracy theorist, gets friendly visit from US president's daughter-in-law

www.timesofisrael.com

How about this? I’m no snowflake but you and others on this forum have parroted that trump is somehow for inclusion and not divisive at all. I mean what’s the move here? This woman Loomer is one of the most vile and hateful person around, and Trump openly supported her and now trump family is actively campaigning on her behalf. Absolutely sickening. Not a single ounce of integrity or decency, just more division to rile up the base for political points. I assume you’re at least objective and educated enough to see this play, but your continued support for Trump and his crew and not calling out things for what they are, really speak for itself. It would be better if you just admit that you don’t care instead of all the mental gymnastics. A person like Laura Loomer should be called out for their vile agenda, but Trump and the Republican Party are actively embracing and are going to let her run on Republican ticket. This is the world we’re living in.

You’re sure attributing a lot to me that I’ve never said. I’ve never once said Trump is inclusive or some great unifier, in fact, I’ve said the opposite. And I don’t think I’ve commented at all about this Loomer lady, she sounds like a nut job. But what do you want from me? You bash my continued support for the lesser of two evils....should I switch to supporting Biden cause Trump wants more republicans in Congress than democrats? Nope. Should Trump be propping up a bad candidate? No. But it’s politics, and unfortunately the letter next to someone’s name means more than a lot of other things.

 

[AMEHigh]

I hope I’m sharing this tweet correctly. What a moving tribute to those that have died in the military. As someone who comes from a military family the president is a disgrace and he’s said multiple disparaging things about military personnel and their families. The words have come out of his mouth, don’t even need anonymous sources. Unforgivable that people with more than 2 brain cells continue to support him, defend him and vote for him.

 

[DarkHorizon]

You’re sure attributing a lot to me that I’ve never said. I’ve never once said Trump is inclusive or some great unifier, in fact, I’ve said the opposite. And I don’t think I’ve commented at all about this Loomer lady, she sounds like a nut job. But what do you want from me? You bash my continued support for the lesser of two evils....should I switch to supporting Biden cause Trump wants more republicans in Congress than democrats? Nope. Should Trump be propping up a bad candidate? No. But it’s politics, and unfortunately the letter next to someone’s name means more than a lot of other things.

I got a bit carried away in what I wrote, and I am no Biden fan either. The guy is demented and I wouldn’t operate on him without at least talking to his POA. It’s obvious that both candidates are bad. But What Trump and his crew are doing is unprecedented IMO, at least in last 30-40 years. The divisive rhetoric will only make things worse. One thing is for sure, regardless of who wins, we will see more chaos and division. We really need a third party who actually focuses on issues than culture war.

 

[Goro]

One of the most infuriating things about all these stories is the number of "senior staffers" who feel fine sharing these awful quotes and behavior from trump anonymously but who don't have the courage to quit their jobs, go on the record, and tell the country what a dangerous babbling idiot baby he is. Worse still is that these people will probably also face no consequences, but rather just continue in the revolving door of politics and lobbying

I think it's telling that General Kelly will not simply issue a denial. I sure wish these guys would do the right thing and serve their country.

 

[Matty44]

I got a bit carried away in what I wrote, and I am no Biden fan either. The guy is demented and I wouldn’t operate on him without at least talking to his POA. It’s obvious that both candidates are bad. But What Trump and his crew are doing is unprecedented IMO, at least in last 30-40 years. The divisive rhetoric will only make things worse. One thing is for sure, regardless of who wins, we will see more chaos and division. We really need a third party who actually focuses on issues than culture war.

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[BLADEMDA]

Biden has this election in the bag. As long as his debate performance is "reasonable" in terms of appearing coherent and mentally sound (just not demented) Biden will crush Trump in electoral votes. Trump is going to lose BIGLY this election cycle in terms of electoral votes and total individual votes (a 3% margin of total voters will go with Biden).

I fully understand why many will choose Biden over Trump but the Sanders' agenda is BAD for this nation. That's my opinion of course but the middle class won't do better under a socialist administration. The poor will do slightly better, the rich will pay more taxes and the economy will be sluggish at best with lower GDP.

Am I optimistic about a Biden/AOC/Sanders administration? No. Do I expect the Dems to take control of the Senate and the White House? Yes.
We are about to elect the worst administration in terms of the economy in 2 generations. If their agenda becomes law the USA will experience much lower GDP, massive debt (150% of GDP) and the dollar will never be the same again.

The purchasing power of the U.S. Dollar will be eroded so all those promises by AOC/Sanders will be worth about 40% less in actual purchasing power.
Trump has NOT done a good job with the debt despite the booming economy.

I predict Trump will be a very sore loser but will leave office in January. Biden will win the election about 5-7 days after the polls close. The "Red Mirage" is a real possibility but Biden's victory a week later is the most likely outcome.

Exclusive: Bloomberg group warns Trump will appear to win big on election night

Way more Democrats will vote by mail than Republicans given partisan differences about fears of the coronavirus.

www.axios.com