The Under 3.0 Club part 01

[armorshell]

2.99 cum, 3.01 science, 25AA/26TS/21PA, studied for about two months for like, 3-4 hours a day

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[bruinpredent]

2.99 cum, 3.01 science, 25AA/26TS/21PA, studied for about two months for like, 3-4 hours a day

^ this man is a genius.



btw, thats your cue to bow

 

[fancymylotus]

yeah....armorshell pretty much blew everyone way outta the water. AND hes actually a nice guy too! hopefully you got to use those things from hard rock cafe in vegas or wherever,haha.

 

[armorshell]

Whoa thanks! I never did get ot use those coupon things yet, but one day I will!

 

[caligirl!]

how about below a 3.0 sci gpa?

 

[kappa505]

armorshell, your stats resemble my own somewhat. Nicely done.

 

[kiwipie]

Hi, everyone, I'm new to this forum, but have been reading this thread. Your stories are so inspirational. I've been somewhat down in the dumps lately about my chances of getting into dental school. I have a 3.02 cum gpa not counting most of my science classes which I am taking in a post bac program. So far I have around a 3.4 science gpa. I know I'm not technically an under 3.0 person, but your stories really speak to me considering I just boosted my gpa to a 3.0 during my last semester in college. Ugh gross. What do you all think? I still have 3 more semesters of post bac classes left.

 

[dds_sdc]

2.99 cum, 3.01 science, 25AA/26TS/21PA, studied for about two months for like, 3-4 hours a day

how did you get those sick scores besides not seeing the sun for months?
good job. major props to you. maybe there is hope for me.

 

[RHONDAROBINSON]

Hello Everyone,

Let's keep this thread alive. We all are not traditional students. All non-traditional students let's help each other.

Rhonda

 

[toothy2112]

I had an interview with a DR hoping for a position in back office. (currently have front office position) Basically, I was reamed for my resume (which he says is trash) and stated if I dont have a 4.0 I need to do something to make myself stand out, otherwise I won't be accepted. When I asked what he suggested, he couldn't give me an answer. Do I still have a chance if my GPA is below a 3.0, but I'm studying hard for the DAT's and have experience in the field. Should I get into a masters program in the meantime? Or should I really re-think my life long goal?

 

[DDSABeach]

I had an interview with a DR hoping for a position in back office. (currently have front office position) Basically, I was reamed for my resume (which he says is trash) and stated if I dont have a 4.0 I need to do something to make myself stand out, otherwise I won't be accepted. When I asked what he suggested, he couldn't give me an answer. Do I still have a chance if my GPA is below a 3.0, but I'm studying hard for the DAT's and have experience in the field. Should I get into a masters program in the meantime? Or should I really re-think my life long goal?

Are you a RDA, DA? (Dental Assistant) was this a general dentist giving you advise or the dental schools dean? If you read through these threads you will see how many students have gotten into dental school with 2.7 with good DAT scores. It is competitive getting into a good dental school but their is lots of dental schools that will accept you with 2.7 and higher with good DAT scores and with lot's of determination and persistents anything is possible don't let anyone say, you can't do it! When are you planning on taking the DAT do you have all your prereq courses?

 

[shortset]

I had an interview with a DR hoping for a position in back office. (currently have front office position) Basically, I was reamed for my resume (which he says is trash) and stated if I dont have a 4.0 I need to do something to make myself stand out, otherwise I won't be accepted. When I asked what he suggested, he couldn't give me an answer. Do I still have a chance if my GPA is below a 3.0, but I'm studying hard for the DAT's and have experience in the field. Should I get into a masters program in the meantime? Or should I really re-think my life long goal?

Don't listen to that DR. I am living proof of a GPA below 3.0 in this current application cycle. I have between a 2.8 and 3.0 GPA, around average DAT scores and guess what.......I have 5 interviews for 5 schools that I applied to! It is always possible if you believe it. Just make sure that your application can shine through the other apps. Make sure your personal statement is awesome, and don't forget about all of your extra-curriculars. Show dedication, persistance, and drive in your application and I know that someone will see potential in you to be an excellent student.

Are you still in school, or did you already graduate? Does your transcript show that you've made significant progress the last few years of college compared to the beginning? All of these factors go into consideration with the ADCOMS. I say apply and make your application the best it can be with what you already have.

 

[DDSABeach]

Don't listen to that DR. I am living proof of a GPA below 3.0 in this current application cycle. I have between a 2.8 and 3.0 GPA, around average DAT scores and guess what.......I have 5 interviews for 5 schools that I applied to! It is always possible if you believe it. Just make sure that your application can shine through the other apps. Make sure your personal statement is awesome, and don't forget about all of your extra-curriculars. Show dedication, persistance, and drive in your application and I know that someone will see potential in you to be an excellent student.

Are you still in school, or did you already graduate? Does your transcript show that you've made significant progress the last few years of college compared to the beginning? All of these factors go into consideration with the ADCOMS. I say apply and make your application the best it can be with what you already have.

Congrats! I know you will get into one of those five schools. Your statement really inspires us all that don't have a 4.0... etc. Even though we study hard and work hard and just seem not to get that 4.0 GPA and 24's across the board on DAT we can still make our dreams come true. Please keep us posted on your journey.

 

[shortset]

no problem. Just thought it needed to be said. These people with those 3.99 GPA's and 25's on the DAT are a very slim minority in the application cycle. They are not the majority. It is a lot more people like us out there. We just need to make sure we shine through the masses. Do it big!

 

[DDSABeach]

no problem. Just thought it needed to be said. These people with those 3.99 GPA's and 25's on the DAT are a very slim minority in the application cycle. They are not the majority. It is a lot more people like us out there. We just need to make sure we shine through the masses. Do it big!

It would be great if you could share some of your experiences through your interviews. All tips are welcome on making us shine through interviews/statements/transcripts I am applying for the 2008 cycle and getting ready to shine as the rest of us on this thread.

 

[shortset]

So far, I have had 2 out of 5 interviews. In each interview, I was just myself. I didn't try to act like I knew more than what I know because they can see right through that. Talk about what you know. Each of my interviews were about 30-40 min. each, so I had a lot of time to sell myself. Explain your story what makes you you, but don't spend the entire time on that. Ask questions to show your sincere interest in the school's program. Research the school, faculty, curriculum, etc. so you can have dialog with the interviewer. Know why you wanna be a dentist without hesitation. Show your drive, persistance, motivation in your voice, and always be humble. There's nothing worse than a know-it-all. Walk with your head up high, but not cocky. Show confidence in yourself, but not overly confident. Sell your attributes, but don't try to hide your weaknesses either because they will ask you about them. If you write something on your application, it better be valid and you better be able to talk about it intelligably.

Don't write about research or community service on your app. if you cannot talk about it. Study your application, know your personal statement up and down, let nothing be a surprise to you in the interview about your application. It helps to have varied interests in things other than dentistry as well. In one of my interviews, the interviewer had opera playing in the background and I knew about opera, so we talked for 5 min. on opera in the Romantic period. It was some random knowledge that I had, but I was able to connect with my interviewer on a different level. It's stuff like that that will help you to shine.

 

[shortset]

As far as my transcripts go, you can't really change what's on their because that is a really slow process. As far as my transcript goes, my 1st two years of undergrad were not the best, actually they were terrible. But that is what makes my story so great. It's not that I can't do the work to make straight A's, it's just that life has happened to me. I've gone through some things that a lot of college students would have never thought of going through. Almost been on academic probation, the dean said that I should withdraw for a semester (what the heck?) to get back on my feet (literally) cause I was handicap in a wheelchair, been in and out of the hospital, and so on. I stuck it through, never withdrew, never went to summer school or community college, I will be graduating this May on time with a 3.0+ all in just 4 years. It can be done!!!

So for my transcript, I was really low my 1st two years (like a 2.2!), then the last 2 years, I have made nothing less than 3.0 every semester, been on honor roll and even dean's list. I have consistently made significant progress on my transcript, took really challenging course work, balanced 17-18 hrs. semesters while working part-time, still very active on my campus in various extra-curriculars and still kept my stats up. If that doesn't show my determination, perseverance, and drive, then I don't know what does. I have really good letters of recommendation from my science professors, dentists shadowed, and my P.I. (because I did research with this person for 2 years).

It can be done!!! Believe me. I will keep you all posted with my journey, so stay tuned!

 

[toothy2112]

Are you a RDA, DA? (Dental Assistant) was this a general dentist giving you advise or the dental schools dean? If you read through these threads you will see how many students have gotten into dental school with 2.7 with good DAT scores. It is competitive getting into a good dental school but their is lots of dental schools that will accept you with 2.7 and higher with good DAT scores and with lot's of determination and persistents anything is possible don't let anyone say, you can't do it! When are you planning on taking the DAT do you have all your prereq courses?

Well not DA yet, taking a course though. I've seen how some students have gotten into d-school and thought if I do awesome on the DAT's I may have a chance. But...he burst my bubble. I don't know why he acted like he was trying to give me advise, but really was just slamming me. I did however try to take it and learn from it. I figure I should prepare myself for any future interviews. Should I forget the masters and finish my last year of prereqs? (just need two classes) Planning on taking DAT's in April, is that too late if Im applying for 2008?

 

[DDSABeach]

Well not DA yet, taking a course though. I've seen how some students have gotten into d-school and thought if I do awesome on the DAT's I may have a chance. But...he burst my bubble. I don't know why he acted like he was trying to give me advise, but really was just slamming me. I did however try to take it and learn from it. I figure I should prepare myself for any future interviews. Should I forget the masters and finish my last year of prereqs? (just need two classes) Planning on taking DAT's in April, is that too late if Im applying for 2008?

I had a dentist just like him once while I was thinking of pursuing a career as a dentist. I wanted advise and all I got was be a "Hygenist". I even quit pursuing my dream because I was told you need to be a "Hygenist" not a "Dentist" too many times making me feel like I was not as smart as him to become a dentist.

So, I would'nt take this dentists words to heart some people are just not happy with themselves and like to share their negativity.

I say go for it! Finish your courses for prereq's start studying like crazy for the DAT stay focus on your dream and pursue it hard! I''m taking the DAT in May I am applying for the 2008 cycle. You can take the DAT all the way up to August. I here but I wouldn't take it no later than July. You have plenty of time to take your courses, study for the DAT and apply in June for the 2008 cylce.

I don't listen to anyone that has negative thoughts about what I want for myself. Neither should you hang in there!

 

[pre-dentalguy]

2.99 cum, 3.01 science, 25AA/26TS/21PA, studied for about two months for like, 3-4 hours a day

That's like the 95 percentile..!!! This guy IS a genius!!

 

[bruinpredent]

That's like the 95 percentile..!!! This guy IS a genius!!

dude, a 25 is like 99.xx percentile...those scores are far and few, hence armorshell being a genius

 

[armorshell]

I don't know about that guys, but I won't say I don't like hearing it

 

[SuperC]

Glad to see this thread alive and kicking. Stay strong!
-C

 

[toothy2112]

I had a dentist just like him once while I was thinking of pursuing a career as a dentist. I wanted advise and all I got was be a "Hygenist". I even quit pursuing my dream because I was told you need to be a "Hygenist" not a "Dentist" too many times making me feel like I was not as smart as him to become a dentist.

So, I would'nt take this dentists words to heart some people are just not happy with themselves and like to share their negativity.

I say go for it! Finish your courses for prereq's start studying like crazy for the DAT stay focus on your dream and pursue it hard! I''m taking the DAT in May I am applying for the 2008 cycle. You can take the DAT all the way up to August. I here but I wouldn't take it no later than July. You have plenty of time to take your courses, study for the DAT and apply in June for the 2008 cylce.

I don't listen to anyone that has negative thoughts about what I want for myself. Neither should you hang in there!

Thanks! (you too!) I thought about becoming a hygenist but I realized it wasn't what I really wanted to do. Now, if I could get into school life would be great! What schools are you applying to?

 

[DDSABeach]

Thanks! (you too!) I thought about becoming a hygenist but I realized it wasn't what I really wanted to do. Now, if I could get into school life would be great! What schools are you applying to?

I felt the same way about hyg. it's great for young women that want to start a family and make her own schedule of working two to three days a week and make descent money. But boring. I am applying to all the schools that have a heartship program for the old folks!!

I will be applying to UT of Memphis, and all the schools that have scores below 19! lol I am studing hard to make 20's on my DAT though and plan on taking upper division course while waiting for interviews in the Fall "08".

What schools are you applying too?

 

[slashnroses19]

i got my grades today. i averaged a 3.83 for the semester for 16 units.

 

[toothy2112]

i got my grades today. i averaged a 3.83 for the semester for 16 units.

Way to go!!

 

[toothy2112]

I felt the same way about hyg. it's great for young women that want to start a family and make her own schedule of working two to three days a week and make descent money. But boring. I am applying to all the schools that have a heartship program for the old folks!!

I will be applying to UT of Memphis, and all the schools that have scores below 19! lol I am studing hard to make 20's on my DAT though and plan on taking upper division course while waiting for interviews in the Fall "08".

What schools are you applying too?

Well same here all schools with lower scores!I would love to be accepted to LSU or UCSD. UCSF wouldn't be bad either. But I don't have that luxury of being that picky!

 

[RHONDAROBINSON]

Hello All,

I need some advice on whether to take the DAT again right now or take some upper level courses to raise my GPA. My GPA is very low(2.6) and my DAT score is low(14). My graduate GPA is 3.78. What should I do? I am in the midst of trying to decide what is the best thing to do to put me in a better position. Take courses or study like heck to make a 20 or better on the DAT in June. Help!!!!!


Rhonda

 

[blankguy]

Hello All,

I need some advice on whether to take the DAT again right now or take some upper level courses to raise my GPA. My GPA is very low(2.6) and my DAT score is low(14). My graduate GPA is 3.78. What should I do? I am in the midst of trying to decide what is the best thing to do to put me in a better position. Take courses or study like heck to make a 20 or better on the DAT in June. Help!!!!!


Rhonda

I'd definitely retake the DAT before applying.

 

[pre-dentalguy]

Hello All,

I need some advice on whether to take the DAT again right now or take some upper level courses to raise my GPA. My GPA is very low(2.6) and my DAT score is low(14). My graduate GPA is 3.78. What should I do? I am in the midst of trying to decide what is the best thing to do to put me in a better position. Take courses or study like heck to make a 20 or better on the DAT in June. Help!!!!!


Rhonda

Yeah, definitely retake DAT!

 

[Suicide_Stat]

2.99 cum, 3.01 science, 25AA/26TS/21PA, studied for about two months for like, 3-4 hours a day

Yo Armorshell You Da man, I know I'll do well but if I do as good as you I'll go crazy.

"Knowledge is food for thought so I wisely swallow."

 

[RHONDAROBINSON]

What should I do about the GPA of 2.6?


Rhonda

 

[artsyme]

I am in a similar situation, with a low gpa. I am planning to take the DATs over in april and rock it *fingers crossed*. I would say that if you have a lot of credits raked up, it's not worth overloading on classes to try to raise the gpa. it's only going to bump your gpa by .0001 or whatever infitismal number it may be.
I would focus on improving the DAT score. Of course if you think you can get really good grades in a few courses, and focus on DAT studying as well, that would be awesome, but you might go crazy in the process.

 

[mightymouse23]

Im in a similar situation and dont know what to do at all!!! My undergrad GPA is around a 2.9, but my Post-Bacc GPA is 3.8+, and I have DAT scores that are 19/19/16. Im wondering if I should retake my DAT's and aim for something above a 21? I know I can do it if im not doing too many other things- currently I work 60hrs/ wk, take classes, and shadow a dentist...

 

[RDH]

I had a dentist just like him once while I was thinking of pursuing a career as a dentist. I wanted advise and all I got was be a "Hygenist". I even quit pursuing my dream because I was told you need to be a "Hygenist" not a "Dentist" too many times making me feel like I was not as smart as him to become a dentist.

So, I would'nt take this dentists words to heart some people are just not happy with themselves and like to share their negativity.

I say go for it! Finish your courses for prereq's start studying like crazy for the DAT stay focus on your dream and pursue it hard! I''m taking the DAT in May I am applying for the 2008 cycle. You can take the DAT all the way up to August. I here but I wouldn't take it no later than July. You have plenty of time to take your courses, study for the DAT and apply in June for the 2008 cylce.

I don't listen to anyone that has negative thoughts about what I want for myself. Neither should you hang in there! [/QUOT

some dentists are unhappy with their career choice due to high demands of the dental profession and the stess it brings, so some(dentists) see hygiene being easier since hygienist do not have to worry about running a practice and managing employees. your dentist may not be saying that you are not smart enough to be a dentist, he may be saying that hygiene is a better choice in his opinion. I am a hygienist and my hygiene training was in a dental school ( B.S. degree in DH) and believe me its not as easy as you may think. also hygiene admission may be slightly less if not as competitive as dental school.
Hygeine is a good alternative for people who truely love this profession and are just having bad luck getting into dental school assumming they get accepted into a hygiene program. I wish you luck and keep working hard for you dream, I am sure with enough determination you will succeed.

 

[itze12ic]

Polornut hit your question right on the button...get your GPA up and locate tons of dental clinics in your area for volunteering experience. Good luck.

 

[SugarNaCl]

Im in a similar situation and dont know what to do at all!!! My undergrad GPA is around a 2.9, but my Post-Bacc GPA is 3.8+, and I have DAT scores that are 19/19/16. Im wondering if I should retake my DAT's and aim for something above a 21? I know I can do it if im not doing too many other things- currently I work 60hrs/ wk, take classes, and shadow a dentist...

Hmm My undergrad GPA was a 3.0 and my Masters was 3.6. My DAT scores were 18/18/18 and I got into the school where I received my MS from. I'm not sure of anywhere else bc I pulled my application from everyplace except for SUNY-Buffalo after my Dec 1 acceptance. I did get officially rejected from Meharry though. I was a re-applicant. First time I applied late in the cycle 2004. Didn't get in anywhere and I was kicking myself for having to make up for my lack of discipline in 4,5,6th semester of college and for starting a medical fraternity that took up so much of my valuable study time. I was told by Buffalo to raise my DAT to the 20s (esp bc I had a pretty decent GPA years 1 and 2 of college but dropped off a bit in year 3) bc they look more at undergrad grades than graduate grades no matter what your excuse is. Guess it all depends on where you are applying. Some favor trad. students, some dont.

 

[DDSABeach]

I had a dentist just like him once while I was thinking of pursuing a career as a dentist. I wanted advise and all I got was be a "Hygenist". I even quit pursuing my dream because I was told you need to be a "Hygenist" not a "Dentist" too many times making me feel like I was not as smart as him to become a dentist.

So, I would'nt take this dentists words to heart some people are just not happy with themselves and like to share their negativity.

I say go for it! Finish your courses for prereq's start studying like crazy for the DAT stay focus on your dream and pursue it hard! I''m taking the DAT in May I am applying for the 2008 cycle. You can take the DAT all the way up to August. I here but I wouldn't take it no later than July. You have plenty of time to take your courses, study for the DAT and apply in June for the 2008 cylce.

I don't listen to anyone that has negative thoughts about what I want for myself. Neither should you hang in there! [/QUOT

some dentists are unhappy with their career choice due to high demands of the dental profession and the stess it brings, so some(dentists) see hygiene being easier since hygienist do not have to worry about running a practice and managing employees. your dentist may not be saying that you are not smart enough to be a dentist, he may be saying that hygiene is a better choice in his opinion. I am a hygienist and my hygiene training was in a dental school ( B.S. degree in DH) and believe me its not as easy as you may think. also hygiene admission may be slightly less if not as competitive as dental school.
Hygeine is a good alternative for people who truely love this profession and are just having bad luck getting into dental school assumming they get accepted into a hygiene program. I wish you luck and keep working hard for you dream, I am sure with enough determination you will succeed.

Thank you, and your right about the alternative's. Hyg. school is not easy to apply and get into either, I tried twice. But, with the encouragement of my boss( mentor) and many, many of patients I worked on have told me to set sail in this direction. So, I hope to make him and many other people proud because they all have a lot of faith in me. Talking about pressure~!

 

[gamecock83]

Accepted here with a 2.99 bcp and 3.1 science gpa (thank goodness for astronomy)

 

[RDH]

Accepted here with a 2.99 bcp and 3.1 science gpa (thank goodness for astronomy)

sorry if you ansewerd this Ques already but what was your DAT score and what schools did you apply to and where did you get accepted

 

[RHONDAROBINSON]

Has anyone been accepted to dental school with a science GPA of 2.41 and a accumulative GPA of 2.51? If so what schools did you apply to? What was the DAT score?


Rhonda

 

[RHONDAROBINSON]

Has anyone been accepted to dental school with a science GPA of 2.41 and a accumulative GPA of 2.51? If so what schools did you apply to? What was the DAT score?


Rhonda

 

[RICEman]

Has anyone been accepted to dental school with a science GPA of 2.41 and a accumulative GPA of 2.51? If so what schools did you apply to? What was the DAT score?


Rhonda

are you talking about me?
I will apply in this summer 2007 for 2008 start dates..

do you guys have any tips for reviewing gen chem I & II ?(I took them 3 years ago)?
God Bless

 

[SugarNaCl]

Has anyone been accepted to dental school with a science GPA of 2.41 and a accumulative GPA of 2.51? If so what schools did you apply to? What was the DAT score?


Rhonda

I don't really know, but if you are a minority you have a much better shot than if you are white or asian. Score 20+ on the DAT.

 

[RHONDAROBINSON]

I don't think that just because I am a minority with stats like this that they will accept me.


rr

 

[SugarNaCl]

I don't think that just because I am a minority with stats like this that they will accept me.


rr

I'm not saying that they will accept anyone... all I am saying that historically underrep. minorities can sometimes get in with lower GPA/DAT scores. I'm not sure how low. It probably depends on a bunch of different things. It means in no way that these same minorities are undeserving. Sometimes it just takes people some time to get their act together. I'm starting to find out that discipline is almost more important than natural intelligence.

 

[armorshell]

Well, my AADSAS update just went through ad I think I'm officially out of the group

My overall GPA went up to 3.03 and my sGPA went up to 3.07

 

[IcemanDDS]

Hello all. It has been a while since I have posted, so I'll tell you what I've been up to.
This past year I worked in a dental lab for 6 months. I learned all the model work for crown/bridge, implant, and dentures. Great experience, and I learned a lot about the lab aspect of dentistry. I have a lot of shadowing experience, so wanted to see what went on in the labs. I have also started a MS in biology this week and hope to finish before the 2008 class begins. I feel that based on my past undergrad performance, this is the only way I'll get in. I have to basically bust ass like never before in this masters and show adcoms I can handle the dental curriculum. So for the rest of you under 3.0 kids, I suggest getting a masters in SCIENCE to prove that you are capable. I dont believe a MBA will have the same effect to the adcoms because it doesnt involve any science (at least that's what a dean of admissions told me). So good luck everyone, and dont give up!

Ice

 

[DentDelOriente]

i'm not exactly sub 3.0, but it's lurking around there. i didn't know how low it was until it was computed on aadsas. heh...anyway, the only way to kick a low gpa's ass would be to do really well on the DAT, period. Everything should be above 20 if you really want serious consideration. With the way the trend is going now, every year the avg scores inch up 0.5 - 1.0, so you really don't want to gamble. Anyway, 22/22/21, got my acceptance from my top choice (also in-state tuition!!!). If you're serious about it, you don't really need a master, just take a lot of higher level science courses (biochem is almost a must, then go to embryology, endocrinology/physiology, and so forth). I was on my way to getting a MA in biology, but heck, the horrible scheduling conflict at the school wasn't very helpful. Chin up, you'll get in if you really really work at it. Good luck.