Thank you. I will now change my entire career and beliefs based solely on the opinion of a random internet post
I'll bet this forum has convinced so many pre-pharmers to run away from pharmacy that it has single-handedly reversed the surplus of pharmacy grads 5 years from now.
I'm willing to bet $100,000 I'll find a job with a PharmD. Then again, I am a pretty big fan of gambling.
This is part of the profession. They would have gotten the bitterness eventually. Might as well be now.
Where else on the interwebs would you have found a place where undergrad, graduate, and professional mingle? You wouldn't. There is nothing else like SDN. Sure sometimes you have to take the good with the bad (and the constant 'bad' gets old), but honestly, where else will you find pharmacy student and pharmacists willing to give advice to undergraduate students? You just have to remember to keep everything in perspective.
Just a random thought, but if all we ever talked about was how great pharmacy is, we would be doing prepharmacy students a disservice. Sure some people go to far in the other direction (being too negative), but it comes with the territory.
tl;dr - owlegrad loves SDN
I've learned so much snooping around this forum. Thank goodness it exists (/exists in app form! ).
Honey, grow up. There's a saturated field in almost EVERYTHING right now. Haven't you heard of the problems with the job market? Haven't you heard that people in almost every field are unemployed?
Posting your thread isn't going to stop anyone from pursuing their dream--and real leaders MAKE jobs. They don't sit around waiting for jobs to come to them
I wont argue that this place does offer some great advice in getting into pharmacy school and beyond, but this trolling is unprofessional and juvenile. The new people who visit this site have enough pessimism and negativity to deal with in their lives, they come to SDN to seek advice on how to improve on their profession not to be brought down. When I first joined, I got alo of good advice, but never realized how many downers scroll around these forums. No career is perfect in todays market and all have their disadvantages. Being a doctor or a lawyer is no longer a sure thing so of course pharmacy is not going to be any different.Where else on the interwebs would you have found a place where undergrad, graduate, and professionals mingle? You wouldn't. There is nothing else like SDN. Sure sometimes you have to take the good with the bad (and the constant 'bad' gets old), but honestly, where else will you find pharmacy student and pharmacists willing to give advice to undergraduate students? You just have to remember to keep everything in perspective.
Just a random thought, but if all we ever talked about was how great pharmacy is, we would be doing prepharmacy students a disservice. Sure some people go to far in the other direction (being too negative), but it comes with the territory.
tl;dr - owlegrad loves SDN
Literally anyone can pay 200K now for a degree and be a pharmacist.
I'll bet this forum has convinced so many pre-pharmers to run away from pharmacy that it has single-handedly reversed the surplus of pharmacy grads 5 years from now.
Cool, so you have all handed in your intention to quit notices then? Excellent, even more chit pharmacy jobs left for the rest of us.
Listen guys I admire all of your intentions, just like myself when I was a starry eyed pharmacy student all those years ago. When I qualified, I was treated with respect and dignity. Pharmacy was profession then, now it is just a manual job. You run around all day doing manual jobs like putting the order away etc, I didn't study for five years to stack shelves. You stand on your feet for 12 hours relentlessly trying to improve on ever improving targets. Pharmacy schools should do a module nowadays on sales techniques as this is what sets you out when you go for a job interview, not all of our wonderful clinical knowledge. When I qualified it was always drummed into us that the patient always came first, nowadays that is bull chit, the shareholders and the executives on 7 figure bonuses are the only people that come first in pharmacy. Oh and don't go thinking you will be one of these top execs one day with all your hard work and knowledge because you won't because 1) they don't like guys that are cleverer than them as they are too much of a threat, so dont go busting your b@lls it will get you nowhere and 2) the guys at the top are usually non-pharmacists such as accountants, finance directors and bean counters. So drop any notion now of going "all the way" with wags or cvs. We're doomed, we're all doomed
Well, I see you have taken your own advice and switched careers
Sounds more like whining than anything else.
It's okay, students who go the the well-established schools will be the ones who find jobs ( I hope) and everyone who thinks they can mess around, get low grades, and get into an unaccredited school will be in for a surprise once they graduate. I don't know this for sure and I may be a little ignorant, but I have zero respect for anyone willing to go to a newly opened school. They are contributing a lot to the saturation of pharmacy because obviously the schools aren't gonna stop opening - it is up to applicants to place a certain burden on themselves to go to a better pharmacy school.The biggest contributor to the problem is there are too many pharmacy schools and NO standard for getting in now.
Right now anyone can get into pharmacy schools...if you are willing to pay 40K a year than you can get a PharmD degree. That's the biggest problem and that's why there is a saturation right now.
Like I said before if there were only 50 pharmacy school in this country and they all only accept people with very high GPA and PCAT score...then I can guarantee you that pharmacy would still be a very good career to go into.
However since there are 300 pharmacy schools now most of which will accept anyone. There are more seats than there are qualified applicants, so of course it's saturated. ANYONE can get into pharmacy school. So why won't it be saturated? It's so damn easy to get in.
