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For all you accepted into med school...come over from pre-allo. we can leave the pre-allo to all the newbies!
This Forum is Quiet!!!
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cool! Here we come! Look out med students, we're taking over this board! Wa-hoooooooo!
Let's make this a real thread. What are you soon to be med students doing this summer? I'm debating whether or not I should work b/c I just found a job that pays $20 an hour. Are you guys just going to relax, or will you make some money to spend in med school?
Let's make this a real thread. What are you soon to be med students doing this summer? I'm debating whether or not I should work b/c I just found a job that pays $20 an hour. Are you guys just going to relax, or will you make some money to spend in med school?
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I'm going to start checking out the Allopathic forum this summer!
Doc Fox:
Welcome to the Allo forum and congratulations on your acceptance! I worked last summer before med school started, but I wouldn't have if there had been an option (had to pay the bills). You need to relax and do something fun if at all possible. If you're looking to have extra cash in med school, it's probably not going to be worth it. The couple thousand dollars you make working in your last free summer will be a drop in the bucket compared to the six digit debt you'll have upon graduation :wink:
Welcome to the Allo forum and congratulations on your acceptance! I worked last summer before med school started, but I wouldn't have if there had been an option (had to pay the bills). You need to relax and do something fun if at all possible. If you're looking to have extra cash in med school, it's probably not going to be worth it. The couple thousand dollars you make working in your last free summer will be a drop in the bucket compared to the six digit debt you'll have upon graduation :wink:
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Thanks Hercules 
I already changed my mind on the pre-allo board after people knocked some sense into me. I'm gonna chill by the pool and hang out with my little 8 year old brother all summer long. (And I'll volunteer once a week in a clinic to keep up the Spanish skills). I have a really short summer anyway (orientation starts July 22), so I want to make the most of it.
I already changed my mind on the pre-allo board after people knocked some sense into me. I'm gonna chill by the pool and hang out with my little 8 year old brother all summer long. (And I'll volunteer once a week in a clinic to keep up the Spanish skills). I have a really short summer anyway (orientation starts July 22), so I want to make the most of it.
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Doctora Foxy:
•Thanks Hercules
I already changed my mind on the pre-allo board after people knocked some sense into me. I'm gonna chill by the pool and hang out with my little 8 year old brother all summer long. (And I'll volunteer once a week in a clinic to keep up the Spanish skills). I have a really short summer anyway (orientation starts July 22), so I want to make the most of it.•••••Good choice not to work. Also, definitely keep up your Spanish skills. I'm afraid I've let mine get a little rusty, so I'm going to have a take a refresher course before my 3rd year rotations.
•Thanks Hercules
I already changed my mind on the pre-allo board after people knocked some sense into me. I'm gonna chill by the pool and hang out with my little 8 year old brother all summer long. (And I'll volunteer once a week in a clinic to keep up the Spanish skills). I have a really short summer anyway (orientation starts July 22), so I want to make the most of it.•••••Good choice not to work. Also, definitely keep up your Spanish skills. I'm afraid I've let mine get a little rusty, so I'm going to have a take a refresher course before my 3rd year rotations.
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Shhh... People are trying to study here! :wink:
I know everyone says to relax and enjoy your summer before med school, but if I were you all, I would find a paying job and try and save some money before med school starts.
I know everyone says to relax and enjoy your summer before med school, but if I were you all, I would find a paying job and try and save some money before med school starts.
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Yes, this forum has been awefully quiet lately. I guess all the med students are too busy studying. :wink: At least people don't post the same questions over and over like in the pre-allo forum...
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i guess it's probably close to finals time at med schools.
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Congratulations on your acceptance to medical school and welcome to the Allopathic Forum!
We at SDN hope you'll enjoy your stay here. The Allopathic Moderator (that would be me) scans the forum everyday to move any posts not-related to this forum to their appropriate cubby-holes in the SDN network. To encourage this please refrain from replying to posts that are not specifically related to your lives as medical students (e.g., questions from premedical students, questions about financial aid, shooting-the-crap posts, etc.). Do visit the pre-Allopathic forum every once in a while to answer questions regarding admissiont o med school, however.
Again welcome to the Allopathic Forum, where you'll receive your real education.
We at SDN hope you'll enjoy your stay here. The Allopathic Moderator (that would be me) scans the forum everyday to move any posts not-related to this forum to their appropriate cubby-holes in the SDN network. To encourage this please refrain from replying to posts that are not specifically related to your lives as medical students (e.g., questions from premedical students, questions about financial aid, shooting-the-crap posts, etc.). Do visit the pre-Allopathic forum every once in a while to answer questions regarding admissiont o med school, however.
Again welcome to the Allopathic Forum, where you'll receive your real education.
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thanks for the welcome. we are ready to charge in!
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Get out! Get out! Get out! You guys aren't at med school yet!
Hey Tim, what do you think of the efforts made to block tuition increase so far? When our tuition approaches 14K and 16K do you think there is actually a chance that the legislature will stop the tuition increases?
Hey Tim, what do you think of the efforts made to block tuition increase so far? When our tuition approaches 14K and 16K do you think there is actually a chance that the legislature will stop the tuition increases?
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we're gonna be there soon!
what school are you guys at?
•••quote:•••Originally posted by guardian:
•Get out! Get out! Get out! You guys aren't at med school yet!
Hey Tim, what do you think of the efforts made to block tuition increase so far? When our tuition approaches 14K and 16K do you think there is actually a chance that the legislature will stop the tuition increases?•••••
what school are you guys at?
•••quote:•••Originally posted by guardian:
•Get out! Get out! Get out! You guys aren't at med school yet!
Hey Tim, what do you think of the efforts made to block tuition increase so far? When our tuition approaches 14K and 16K do you think there is actually a chance that the legislature will stop the tuition increases?•••••
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Guardian's comments apply to the four medical schools of the State University of New York (SUNY) at Brooklyn, Buffalo, Stony Brook, and Syracuse. I'm at Downstate Medical Center, the campus in Brooklyn.
Anyway to answer your question, Guardian, considering I received a letter in the mail from SUNY Chancellor Robert L. King explaining why they need to increase SUNY medical school tuition, I don't think the efforts have been all that successful.
I don't think it'll stop at $15,000 either. According to the letter SUNY will raise tuition $2,000 every year until it reaches a peak of $19,000. Thank God I'm graduating next year.
In terms of what else can be done to stop these increases, I can't think of anything else. The four med schools make up only about 600 students within a system of 64 campuses spread out across the state. Take that into account with the fact the three State University Hospitals (Stony Brook, Downstate University Hospital, and Upstate University Hospital) are losing cash quicker than Gamblers' Anonymous members in Las Vegas, it's unlikely the SUNY Board of Trustees would listen to a minority voice.
There was an article in the New York Times some time ago that dealt with the three State University hospitals and the possible causes for their financial instability. One idea was that because of SUNY "rules" the three State University hospitals were not permitted to form networks with other institutions. The trend in healthcare today is to merge institutions and everyone from Harvard down to Penn State have integrated their hospitals with others and formed huge, money-saving networks. Surprisingly the three State University hospitals are still stand-alone. Maybe Chancellor King should look into making the three hospitals financially stable before attacking med students in their wallets.
That's just my opinion.
Anyway to answer your question, Guardian, considering I received a letter in the mail from SUNY Chancellor Robert L. King explaining why they need to increase SUNY medical school tuition, I don't think the efforts have been all that successful.
I don't think it'll stop at $15,000 either. According to the letter SUNY will raise tuition $2,000 every year until it reaches a peak of $19,000. Thank God I'm graduating next year.
In terms of what else can be done to stop these increases, I can't think of anything else. The four med schools make up only about 600 students within a system of 64 campuses spread out across the state. Take that into account with the fact the three State University Hospitals (Stony Brook, Downstate University Hospital, and Upstate University Hospital) are losing cash quicker than Gamblers' Anonymous members in Las Vegas, it's unlikely the SUNY Board of Trustees would listen to a minority voice.
There was an article in the New York Times some time ago that dealt with the three State University hospitals and the possible causes for their financial instability. One idea was that because of SUNY "rules" the three State University hospitals were not permitted to form networks with other institutions. The trend in healthcare today is to merge institutions and everyone from Harvard down to Penn State have integrated their hospitals with others and formed huge, money-saving networks. Surprisingly the three State University hospitals are still stand-alone. Maybe Chancellor King should look into making the three hospitals financially stable before attacking med students in their wallets.
That's just my opinion.
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Hey Oldman, I'm a first year at SUNY Upstate. Word is out that Tim's at SUNY Downstate :wink: .
The State University of NY is raising tution each year by $2,000 for the next four years at each of the four medical schools (Upstate, Downstate, Stonybrook, Buffalo). I was really surprised to find out that for an operating budget of $550 million at Upstate, the state contributes only ~$70 million.
The State University of NY is raising tution each year by $2,000 for the next four years at each of the four medical schools (Upstate, Downstate, Stonybrook, Buffalo). I was really surprised to find out that for an operating budget of $550 million at Upstate, the state contributes only ~$70 million.
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Hey Tim,
Our president was telling us that the tuition increase was not created because of increasing costs in educating medical students or improving the curriculum, but as you said to offset some of the debt accrued by the medical school's respective teaching hospital.
Why are the SUNY hospitals restricted from forming networks? And how exactly is money saved from forming mergers?
Btw how are you enjoying your clinical rotations right now?
Our president was telling us that the tuition increase was not created because of increasing costs in educating medical students or improving the curriculum, but as you said to offset some of the debt accrued by the medical school's respective teaching hospital
. Why are the SUNY hospitals restricted from forming networks? And how exactly is money saved from forming mergers?
Btw how are you enjoying your clinical rotations right now?
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Summer... Hopefully I can get my ~$30/hr paying job back and bank enough to fully furnish an apartment with quality items. I've been working for chump change at my university for far too long! I don't intend on working too much during the summer, though. I need a rest!
Are we still pre-med if we have been accepted? I don't want to be.
:wink:
Are we still pre-med if we have been accepted? I don't want to be.
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Yea!! Glad to see you guys herera. Foxy oldman Swamp Syphilis, anyone? !!! We have to bring more people over and liven up this forum! 
Congrats you guys!! and foxy, I will be poor but I am taking a whole month off to make up for no vacations for the next 4 years. It's summer, have some fun!!!
ra. Foxy oldman Swamp Syphilis, anyone? !!! We have to bring more people over and liven up this forum! Congrats you guys!! and foxy, I will be poor but I am taking a whole month off to make up for no vacations for the next 4 years. It's summer, have some fun!!!
Wow, it looks like they have rules or something on this side of the forum, look out you oldtimers, as more of us switch over from pre-meds, this place is really going to get turned up a notch, just take a look at some of the numbers of posts these guys have racked up! It's ridiculous!
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by guardian:
•Why are the SUNY hospitals restricted from forming networks?•••••That's just a rule of the State University of New York, as reported by the New York Times.
•••quote:••••And how exactly is money saved from forming mergers?•••••Well, instead of two facilities running TWO of the same services, one facility can have something while the other does not and vice versa. This kind of arrangement has worked and not worked, depending on the situation. It seems to work for the likes of St. Luke's Hospital and Roosevelt Hospital in New York, as well as for the New York-Presbyterian system.
•••quote:••••Btw how are you enjoying your clinical rotations right now? •••••Fine. <img border="0" alt="[Pity]" title="" src="graemlins/pity.gif" />
•Why are the SUNY hospitals restricted from forming networks?•••••That's just a rule of the State University of New York, as reported by the New York Times.
•••quote:••••And how exactly is money saved from forming mergers?•••••Well, instead of two facilities running TWO of the same services, one facility can have something while the other does not and vice versa. This kind of arrangement has worked and not worked, depending on the situation. It seems to work for the likes of St. Luke's Hospital and Roosevelt Hospital in New York, as well as for the New York-Presbyterian system.
•••quote:••••Btw how are you enjoying your clinical rotations right now?
•••••Fine. <img border="0" alt="[Pity]" title="" src="graemlins/pity.gif" />
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by Swamp Syphilis, anyone?:
•Summer... Hopefully I can get my ~$30/hr paying job back and bank enough to fully furnish an apartment with quality items. I've been working for chump change at my university for far too long! I don't intend on working too much during the summer, though. I need a rest!
Are we still pre-med if we have been accepted? I don't want to be.
:wink: •••••i guess we are pre-med until orientation day.
•Summer... Hopefully I can get my ~$30/hr paying job back and bank enough to fully furnish an apartment with quality items. I've been working for chump change at my university for far too long! I don't intend on working too much during the summer, though. I need a rest!
Are we still pre-med if we have been accepted? I don't want to be.
:wink: •••••i guess we are pre-med until orientation day.
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OK..I think I shall also chime in. I've been reading the posts in the allopathic forum but haven't posted much. The main reason is because I still consider myself "pre-medical" although I will be attending MCV this fall. I don't really feel I can call myself a medical student until I take the oath and start classes....and the school cashes my ungodly tuition check! So while I'd like to think I'm in the allopathic mindset, I don't think we can quite call ourselves medical students until post-matriculation. My 2-cents. Oh, and welcome my fellow classmates (whatever school you attend) of 2006.
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I'll prolly be TAing a biochem class at UCLA this summer, making $$ for when I go to SC. I'll also prolly move to the other side of LA. And above all else, I am going to get a tan. I've been pasty white for to long.
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by Jalbreakfast:
•I'll prolly be TAing a biochem class at UCLA this summer, making $$ for when I go to SC. I'll also prolly move to the other side of LA. And above all else, I am going to get a tan. I've been pasty white for to long.•••••nothing wrong with pasty white. my arms are super pasty. i'm whiter than white people.
•I'll prolly be TAing a biochem class at UCLA this summer, making $$ for when I go to SC. I'll also prolly move to the other side of LA. And above all else, I am going to get a tan. I've been pasty white for to long.•••••nothing wrong with pasty white. my arms are super pasty. i'm whiter than white people.
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•••quote:••• nothing wrong with pasty white. my arms are super pasty. i'm whiter than white people</font>•••As a dermatologist to be (ha, possibly), I'm very happy to hear about your pastiness, oldman. Keep it up! Ok, time to go put on some tan-in-a-bottle now... <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
Keep it up! Ok, time to go put on some tan-in-a-bottle now... <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by Doctora Foxy:
•As a dermatologist to be (ha, possibly), I'm very happy to hear about your pastiness, oldman. Keep it up! Ok, time to go put on some tan-in-a-bottle now... <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> •••••you're gonna be a derm? so does that mean you'll rub lotion on my pasty skin some day? or is that the job for your manly ape-sized male nurse?
•As a dermatologist to be (ha, possibly), I'm very happy to hear about your pastiness, oldman.
Keep it up! Ok, time to go put on some tan-in-a-bottle now... <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> •••••you're gonna be a derm? so does that mean you'll rub lotion on my pasty skin some day? or is that the job for your manly ape-sized male nurse?
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ok, i think i'm getting a little randy now. it must be this dr. pepper talking.
