Toledo vs Geisinger (pls help!!)

[TwoDoc]

Hi everyone! I have a few days to pick between these two schools that I honestly know very little about. I am not really sure where to find more information to help me make a decision. I have read through numerous threads and both school websites, but nothing has helped sway me one way or the other. I have never visited either school and both are out of state. I am from Florida. I am interested in EM, ophthalmology, and Anesthesiology. Any information you have on these schools would be VERY appreciated.

Toledo:
Pros:
- Cheap housing
- Really enjoyed the interview day, the faculty was nice
- 3 hours away from distant family (somewhat of a support system)
- True P/F with no internal ranking

Cons:
- Large class size (175 students)
- I have read that Toledo is quite dangerous?

Geisinger: (Grabbed this list from threads, as I don't know much about the school)
Pros:
- Brand new building, great facilities, Scranton kind of centered around the school
- Affiliated with a huge health system
- Lots of faculty came from well-reputed programs

Cons:
-3rd-year rotation sites all in that region; must be a Geisinger hospital for MS3; lots match in their system (restrictive?)
-clinical sites almost all outside of Scranton... a lot of driving
- Focus on primary care/family med

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[m1redsox]

If you’re interested in anything competitive (ophtho), you’ve gotta go to the school with a home program. I vote Geisinger (unless it is substantially more expensive)

 

[i-doctor]

Let us know what you decided.

 

[TwoDoc]

If you’re interested in anything competitive (ophtho), you’ve gotta go to the school with a home program. I vote Geisinger (unless it is substantially more expensive)

Geisinger is about 66k a year. Whereas Toledo is 66k the first year, then 36k the next 3 years (from what I understand about becoming an Ohio resident after a year). Thoughts?

EDIT: tuition is 66k not 60k*

 

[voxveritatisetlucis]

I’d save the money and go Toledo tbh

 

[TwoDoc]

I’d save the money and go Toledo tbh

That's what I am thinking too. Thank you for your input!

 

[m1redsox]

Geisinger is about 66k a year. Whereas Toledo is 66k the first year, then 36k the next 3 years (from what I understand about becoming an Ohio resident after a year). Thoughts?

EDIT: tuition is 66k not 60k*

I’d say that is substantial. ~$90k difference will be more after interest. Have fun at Toledo! But figure out if you want Ophtho quickly (shadow a lot during first year) so that you can make a competitive application if you decide you want to do it.

 

[TwoDoc]

I’d say that is substantial. ~$90k difference will be more after interest. Have fun at Toledo! But figure out if you want Ophtho quickly (shadow a lot during first year) so that you can make a competitive application if you decide you want to do it.

I’m somehow just seeing this, but thank you for confirming that for me! (I’ve already withdrew my A at Geisinger anyway lol so I’m glad it was the right call). I will definitely try my best to do that. Thank you sm <3

 

[mcso1525]

https://www.utoledo.edu/med/studentaffairs/events/commencement/pdfs/UToledoMed-2022-Commencement-program-2022.pdf

Ophtho is absolutely doable at Toledo. check out the other match lists from years prior too.

tbh toledo is not that as dangerous as ppl make it out to be. just be smart in avoiding certain areas at night.

 

[i-doctor]

Toledo has the best Lebanese food anywhere. The Beirut and Sidon to name a couple of restaurants.

 

[TwoDoc]

Toledo has the best Lebanese food anywhere. The Beirut and Sidon to name a couple of restaurants.

I've never had Lebanese food before! I would definitely like to one day, though

Let us know what you decided.

I withdrew from Geisinger. PTE at UT, but just got pulled from my top choice's WL on Tuesday! So I sadly withdrew from UT.

 

[i-doctor]

Congratulations!