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- Mar 12, 2009
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I was just accepted into med school. Is it too late to apply for the 4 year scholarship?
Had it not been for SDN I probably would have made a really big mistake. All the stuff you read about military medicine on here is sad, but apparently true.
So you have no military medicine experience to speak of but you are able to say that assertions made on SDN are "apparently true"? Do you realize that many military docs are happy with their careers and that it's usually the unhappy ones who are prone to vent on public forums such as SDN?
@ Easy C
What is your experience with Military Medicine?
I would caution against accepting the HPSP "scholarship"
In my mind, as an operational GMO Flight Surgeon type with a few years in (and thankfully only 2 left in my ADSO) people should only accept this scholarship if:
1. They value being an Officer more than a Doctor
2. They are prepared to have their training delayed in order to serve as a GMO. Keep in mind that if you do a GMO tour, and knock 3 yrs off your commitment, but then do a 3 yr residency, you owe another 3 yrs on active duty following residency completion. So your GMO years avail you nothing.
3. They go to a DO school. The Military is inundated with DO's and there is little or no active discrimination.
4. They are willing to accept the realities of Military Medicine: low acuity, incredible bureaucracy, +/- Nurse corps/MSC domination (AF >> Navy > Army), active outsourcing of dependents to the community, closing/consolidation of Medical Centers (AF > Navy > Army) many dangerous/incompetent senior "physicians" who would be unemployable on the outside.
I've had some truly great experiences, especially now as I come to the end of a 1 yr hitch in Afghanistan. For me, it was the right choice. But my disgust with the Military Match process, the aforementioned buraucracy, and the substandard training convinced me early on to go "Four and Out." For me, as a single, young physician this was a realistic plan. For many others, it is not.
Be very careful about accepting this scholarship. I think that the trends mentioned above will only get worse as time goes on. Finally, the AF is the absolute worst when it comes to bureaucracy and limited training opportunities. Read some of the other posts on here by ex- AF types and savor their understandable bitterness. The Navy almost mandates a GMO tour post-internship (65-75%). The Army still uses GMO's extensively, though substantially less than Navy, and you will deploy for a year at a time.
Think very carefully about this decision.
So your experience with MilMed is shadowing a few Docs and taking the HPSP scholarship? I'm underwhelmed.
[Do more research than me] in reference to Military Medicine
I am not sure I see anything in milmed that would validate this sentiment, but maybe you have a convincing explanation for this.for me Military Medicine helps cut out some of the BS that is running through civilian health care. And helps me avoid some of the crap that will be problematic once all this new health care crap hits the fan.
While I understand this statement, and partially agree, I would add that there are probably enough DO freindly areas/programs in civilian-land to offset the benefit of this. While I have seen DOs in competetive specialties (ENT, Ortho, Ophtho) in the Navy and AF, at least one poster here (whom I believe would be in a position to know) states that anti-DO bias runs strong in the Army, esp. in the competetive specialties (A1qwerty, if you read this and think I am mischaracheterizing your previous statements, please chime in. I cannot claim to speak authoritatively on someone else's thoughts). This would further offset the .mil advatage for DO students. I think those coming from an expensive new DO school might benefit more than someone coming from one of the older schools. That might be splitting hairs, but my $0.02.3. They go to a DO school. The Military is inundated with DO's and there is little or no active discrimination.