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There are way too many of 4.0 snobs around...(no disrespect if you are one)

With all of these 3.8, 3.9, 4.0 applicants flooding the schools I feel my chances are slim to none ...

The sad thing is that I know people with 3.9 and 3.8 GPA's who complain to me about how they don't know whether or not they'll into med school, and of course they complain about their grades (Oh my god I got an A-) and of course

I'm surprised when I see 4.0 students get rejected from med schools, I was looking at one profile where a 4.0 student was rejected from Hawaii Med School, and they called it a 'longshot'
 

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why wouldnt 4.0 students get rejected?

i know some people who have had very high gpas and high mcats not get into any school. for these people that i knew specifically, they knew nothing but studying. interviewing skills were subpar, social abilities with new people...a foreign concept, little or no volunteering due to mostly research etc...

sure its not as common as a low gpa-er getting rejected but it happens and i dont get TOO shocked when i hear about it.
 

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if they were an out-of-state applicant hawaii is a long shot not matter what your gpa, mcat, etc. that's why i withdrew my application from there earlier in the cycle.
 
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I know what you mean. Don't worry. Just think, once you get accepted, you can do all of us (who have a couple of years to go and have a "lower" GPA) a favor by showing us that we can get into plenty of good schools with "average" GPAs too. I don't like to do any searches on mdapplicants.com with GPAs above like a 3.7. I've noticed there's a difference between the aura I get from what they say and how they say it and the people who have lower GPAs.

You say that you're suprised that people with high GPAs don't get into medical schools. I'm not. Although I've met some pretty cool (or "chill" as they say out west) geniuses, I have met plenty of others who think they're the best (at my school, there are ALOT of people like this: people who have what they call "book smarts" yet no common sense). Obviously, adcoms see this as well. It makes me feel even better to know that what I may lack in "book smarts," I can make up for in "street smarts", because a lot of these "geniuses" have none. It's actually quite funny to look at them sometimes and see that they have NO clue about whats going on around them, what others think of them, how to read people, etc.
 

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I know how you feel! I've heard the stories too, but after finishing the application process (not completely, but close enough) I'm starting to think that some of them are med school application process urban legends. We've all heard about the 4.0 student with the amazing MCAT score and stellar ECs who didn't get in anywhere, but then there are a bunch of average joes and janes who don't have killer scores who do get accepted. Don't worry about the talk, apply and hope fore the best!
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just a thought...

the "typical" 4.0/45 applicant is probably a gunner, someone who wants to give themselves every advantage in the process, even though they may not need it.. and maybe people like this are more familiar with md applicants and SDN and what not, maybe they stay up late at night googling med student websites or have heard about them from their gunner friends...
i just dont think these sites are representative of the entire applicant population. maybe the "normal" folks arent into posting their stats for all the world to see...
 

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To add to this.... I take everything I read on MDapplicants with a grain of salt. I could easily post that I have a 4.0, 45T mcat, I've donated all my organs to those in need of transplants, cured AIDS, won the noble prize, and of course with these stats I would have applied to all top 10 schools, been accepted, and offered full tuition scholarships. Go me! But seriously...who's going to believe this crap...
 

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Originally posted by ZekeMD
To add to this.... I take everything I read on MDapplicants with a grain of salt. I could easily post that I have a 4.0, 45T mcat, I've donated all my organs to those in need of transplants, cured AIDS, won the noble prize, and of course with these stats I would have applied to all top 10 schools, been accepted, and offered full tuition scholarships. Go me! But seriously...who's going to believe this crap...

Oh don't forget passing out condoms in Africa too, as our infamous Squat N' Squeeze did.:laugh:
 

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Originally posted by Farrah
There are way too many of 4.0 snobs around...(no disrespect if you are one)

With all of these 3.8, 3.9, 4.0 applicants flooding the schools I feel my chances are slim to none ...

The sad thing is that I know people with 3.9 and 3.8 GPA's who complain to me about how they don't know whether or not they'll into med school, and of course they complain about their grades (Oh my god I got an A-) and of course

I'm surprised when I see 4.0 students get rejected from med schools, I was looking at one profile where a 4.0 student was rejected from Hawaii Med School, and they called it a 'longshot'

So, the punishment of success is warranted in your opinion?
Let me guess, you describe your self as a compassionate, socialist liberal democrat. You probably read Michael Moore books and think the government should get 80% of our income, except for the poor, who shouldn't pay anything.
Why is it so hard to appreciate that when someone works hard, studies while you go get trashed at the bar, or actually goes to class instead of sleeping in, they get grades that they deserve.

The 4.0 "snob" you describe. Is that just because they wouldn't stay out until 3:00a with you the night before the test getting hammered? And now, you think that somehow you just automatically "deserve" to get into med school. Let me tell you something. Nobody "deserves" to go. It's not a right. It's a privilege granted to those who work the hardest on all aspects of their application. It's not just the 4.0 that gets someone in. But you rarely see someone with a 4.0 and no other points to their application. The type of person that strives to obtain perfection in academia is also likely the person who put the same study effort into their MCAT, perserverance into their research and E.C.'s, persistence into obtaining LOR's, and heart and soul into why they chose to pursue medicine.
There are plenty of seats for people who don't make 3.8-4.0. Just look at the average matriculating GPA/MCAT's. You're whining about a moot point. That is, dogging the people who actually worked the hardest.
 

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Oh don't forget passing out condoms in Africa too, as our infamous Squat N' Squeeze did.:laugh:

Seriously though, one of the students I shared an office with during grad school was from South Africa and she said that people were passing out AIDS pamphlets with a stappled through condom attached! It's a very sad situation.
 

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Originally posted by ZekeMD
To add to this.... I take everything I read on MDapplicants with a grain of salt. I could easily post that I have a 4.0, 45T mcat, I've donated all my organs to those in need of transplants, cured AIDS, won the noble prize, and of course with these stats I would have applied to all top 10 schools, been accepted, and offered full tuition scholarships. Go me! But seriously...who's going to believe this crap...

I'm sure some of the stuff on mdapplicants is fake but generally speaking I can't see why anyone would get anything out of posting false info on MDapplicants.com.
 
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Originally posted by twaspatz
So, the punishment of success is warranted in your opinion?
Let me guess, you describe your self as a compassionate, socialist liberal democrat. You probably read Michael Moore books and think the government should get 80% of our income, except for the poor, who shouldn't pay anything.

What the hell? That's a far fetched generalization if I ever heard one. You got ALL That from a post about GPAs? Sounds like someone has some pent-up frustrations.

To the OP.... I concur with the opinion that you've got to take MDapplicants with a grain of salt. When I pull up my school's info on people who are applying this year I am amazed to see majors that we don't offer and clubs we don't have. I'll also notice people who claim to be on the exec boards of clubs I'm a part of. Moral of the story: there's some bogus profiles out there.

I wouldn't get too upset about those stellar GPAs, though. Those people more than likely worked REALLY REALLY hard for it. There is a reason some of the 4.0's or 40 MCATs don't get it. Maybe they're a**holes in person. Maybe they didn't do any clinicals. Who knows. Try to to chastize the hard work and effort they put into their grades, especially when they get accepted.

You'll get there eventually. Keep on truckin.
 

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Originally posted by Farrah
There are way too many of 4.0 snobs around...(no disrespect if you are one)

With all of these 3.8, 3.9, 4.0 applicants flooding the schools I feel my chances are slim to none ...

The sad thing is that I know people with 3.9 and 3.8 GPA's who complain to me about how they don't know whether or not they'll into med school, and of course they complain about their grades (Oh my god I got an A-) and of course

I'm surprised when I see 4.0 students get rejected from med schools, I was looking at one profile where a 4.0 student was rejected from Hawaii Med School, and they called it a 'longshot'

GPA is irrelevant after a certain point really, if you are above a certain level it just shows adcoms that you can work consistently over a period of time. Its the MCAT that shows adcoms how much you know relative to others. It is VERY possible, especially if you go to a noncompetitive school, to have a 4.0 or close to that and still do poorly on the MCAT, diminishing chances of acceptance.

What Im confused about is, why are these people snobs for doing well in terms of their GPA and having a high MCAT? You don't know their personalities, you don't know what they've had to do to get where they are. Its really stupid to call an entire group of people snobs when you really have no idea who you're talking about. But if creating a negative personality image of an entire group of people defined by their stats because you feel inferior to them makes you sleep better at night, well, you gotta do what you gotta do. And if you constantly think of people who do well in school as snobs, I think you're going to have a rude awakening in med school when everyone is smart and working hard (but I guess you'll just call them snobs, right? even though you dont know the first thing about them). :rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by DoctorKevin
The people who tend to post and update MD applicants completely and thoroughly also tend to be the people who have the higher GPAs and MCATs and who tend to be more obessive about the whole process. Don't worry about what you read there.

What about people who post and update their complete application school profile in their signatures (saying where you're going is a different matter)? Are they the ones with more acceptances and who tend to be more obsessive about the whole process? Should I not worry about what I read in people's signatures?
 

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way to put words in his mouth and start generalizing.

exactly, plus there I strongly doubt there is much of a correlation between being a 4.0 ugrad and being a succesful physician. In my opinion most 4.0's are great at studying but lack the personal development that you find in someone who balanced doing well in school with experiencing college and thus life. There is a human aspect that you cannot learn simply by reading facts from a text book.
 

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The 4.0 "snob" you describe. Is that just because they wouldn't stay out until 3:00a with you the night before the test getting hammered? And now, you think that somehow you just automatically "deserve" to get into med school. Let me tell you something. Nobody "deserves" to go. It's not a right. It's a privilege granted to those who work the hardest on all aspects of their application. It's not just the 4.0 that gets someone in. But you rarely see someone with a 4.0 and no other points to their application. The type of person that strives to obtain perfection in academia is also likely the person who put the same study effort into their MCAT, perserverance into their research and E.C.'s, persistence into obtaining LOR's, and heart and soul into why they chose to pursue medicine.
There are plenty of seats for people who don't make 3.8-4.0. Just look at the average matriculating GPA/MCAT's. You're whining about a moot point. That is, dogging the people who actually worked the hardest. [/B][/QUOTE]

bitter much? FYI: there are a lot of people who put their "heart and soul" into becoming a physician who didn't end up with amazing scores. As someone else pointed out amazing scores do not necessarily mean someone will be a good doctor . . . in fact a bunch of brillant people make not-so-hot doctors. As a side note-raging generalizations about a person's political and ethical stances based on something they posted on a website is not exactly the hallmark of an open and compasssionate mind (or course I could always be wrong . . . )
 

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You can rag on people with high stats, but then why not rag on people who come from money? Why not rag on people who were expected to graduate from high school and attend college? Rag on people who say they have known since childhood that they wanted to become a doctor, and accuse them of being narrow minded. Rag on people who have never worked a real job or have never taken a year off from school, and yet know that a career in medicine is right for them. Rag on fifteenth generation ivy league graduates who were groomed by expensive prep schools. Rag on people with connections. Or rag on third and forth generation physicians who as applicants merely mentioned the name of a parent and got accepted.

I can tell you one thing: you can have a 4.0 without being socially inept, and you can possess a lot of the characteristics that an admissions committee is looking for. That doesn't guarantee you an acceptance anywhere. The same goes for people with exceptional MCAT scores. Numbers give you leverage, as do social skills and clinical experience, but the competition for medical school is ridiculous. If you have an acceptance, be very happy about it. You have gotten farther than half of all applicants ever will.

What scares me is that people honestly believe in a negative correlation between number scores and personal development. Should someone who is bored with organic chemistry intentionally blow an exam in order to appear more humble before the admissions committee? Should somebody capable of earning a 40 on the MCAT intentionally omit a few questions in each section so he feels more able to connect to his interviewer (who probably scored closer to a 30)? I dunno. I personally didn't feel like subjecting myself to a lobotomy before filing my application.

Making the assumption that people with high marks are somehow missing out on something is tantamount to saying the captain of the basketball team is missing out on something, cuz he MUST be spending all of his time practicing in order to get so good. Give me a break. Some people just have it. And yes, hard work is part of the equation, but hey if someone can't dribble the ball then maybe they shouldn't try out for the team!

Farrah, don't worry about numbers and don't worry about who gets rejected from where. Apply to a variety of schools and just DO WHAT YOU WANT with your time. Grades and MCAT are very important, so you probably want to do very well in those categories. But if you absolutely cannot balance academic excellence with everything else, then focus on what is more important to YOU. After all, it's your life. Spend PRE MED years the way you wanna spend them and if some admissions committee member thinks you should have done more community service or thinks you should have earned another point on your verbal section... ah well, there are other schools and maybe other schools place less of an emphasis on grades. I think the description of this process being a "crap shoot" is apropos. Good Luck!
 

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mdapplicants can get shady though. It's pretty easy to figure out who is who from SDN on that site, and it's *interesting* to see how some people change their status from accepted off the waitlist to accepted out right. It's so silly, like no one is gonna make fun of you cuz you were pulled off the waitlist!
 

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Oh don't forget passing out condoms in Africa too, as our infamous Squat N' Squeeze did.:laugh:

Well since I cured AIDS...who needs condoms?! :clap:
 

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Originally posted by DoctorKevin
The people who tend to post and update MD applicants completely and thoroughly also tend to be the people who have the higher GPAs and MCATs and who tend to be more obessive about the whole process. Don't worry about what you read there.

me and mike update pretty frequently to let the people who randomly follow an applicants process our progress and our thoughts.

not obsessive or have big gpas or anything like that. the concept of mdapplicants is an awesome one and i want to be able to contribute to it. thats all.

there might be a few bad apples but its a waste of time if you lie tho.

and for the people that do update...thats good cause surely you dont want old info that is not updated or complete...regardless of their gpa or mcat.
 

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Since it is an anonymous site, it doesn't seem like many people have a reason to lie. I think the reason the stats seem high on the site is because of people who get rejected completely not posting as often as those who want to brag about their achievements. Also, it could be argued that people going out of their way to find such websites about medicine are more gunner-esque then those who don't.

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In my opinion most 4.0's are great at studying but lack the personal development that you find in someone who balanced doing well in school with experiencing college and thus life. There is a human aspect that you cannot learn simply by reading facts from a text book.

So what is the perfect GPA for someone cool? Is it 3.6? 3.5? I hear the cool MCAT nowadays is 32, nice round number. Only losers score higher than that, and only *****s score lower.

Basically, the algorithm everyone on this thread is using is:

If someone else's score is higher than yours, then that person obviously is a dork with no life (because it is impossible that someone could be smarter than YOU)

If someone else's score is lower than yours, then they're an alcoholic ***** fratboy/sorority girl. And you just ignore them.

Pretty sad conclusions for people who are supposed to be thinking analytically if you ask me. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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So what is the perfect GPA for someone cool? Is it 3.6? 3.5? I hear the cool MCAT nowadays is 32, nice round number. Only losers score higher than that, and only *****s score lower.

Basically, the algorithm everyone on this thread is using is:

If someone else's score is higher than yours, then that person obviously is a dork with no life (because it is impossible that someone could be smarter than YOU)

If someone else's score is lower than yours, then they're an alcoholic ***** fratboy/sorority girl. And you just ignore them.

Pretty sad conclusions for people who are supposed to be thinking analytically if you ask me. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

There is only one way to respond to these accusations:

12"
 

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There is only one way to respond to these accusations:

12"

Oh, me too.

Oh, I meant while FLACCID.
 

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me and mike update pretty frequently to let the people who randomly follow an applicants process our progress and our thoughts.

not obsessive or have big gpas or anything like that. the concept of mdapplicants is an awesome one and i want to be able to contribute to it. thats all.

there might be a few bad apples but its a waste of time if you lie tho.

and for the people that do update...thats good cause surely you dont want old info that is not updated or complete...regardless of their gpa or mcat.

I finally put myself on the sight. I used other peoples data to keep myself sane, so adding my own was the least I could do. Thanks to the OP for making this thread, it reminded me about the service.
 

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Originally posted by twaspatz
So, the punishment of success is warranted in your opinion?
Let me guess, you describe your self as a compassionate, socialist liberal democrat. You probably read Michael Moore books and think the government should get 80% of our income, except for the poor, who shouldn't pay anything.
Why is it so hard to appreciate that when someone works hard, studies while you go get trashed at the bar, or actually goes to class instead of sleeping in, they get grades that they deserve.

The 4.0 "snob" you describe. Is that just because they wouldn't stay out until 3:00a with you the night before the test getting hammered? And now, you think that somehow you just automatically "deserve" to get into med school. Let me tell you something. Nobody "deserves" to go. It's not a right. It's a privilege granted to those who work the hardest on all aspects of their application. It's not just the 4.0 that gets someone in. But you rarely see someone with a 4.0 and no other points to their application. The type of person that strives to obtain perfection in academia is also likely the person who put the same study effort into their MCAT, perserverance into their research and E.C.'s, persistence into obtaining LOR's, and heart and soul into why they chose to pursue medicine.
There are plenty of seats for people who don't make 3.8-4.0. Just look at the average matriculating GPA/MCAT's. You're whining about a moot point. That is, dogging the people who actually worked the hardest.

twaspatz, Forget Subtlety.....constipated people like you need to take a ****. :rolleyes:

What would you know of my GPA or beliefs? You think that people who put their 'heart and soul' into their work are the ones with high GPA's, while all others are 'wasting time'. I'm sorry, but people like me are working 12 hour shifts at work just to survive while people like you are sleeping in your little bed having safe sex with your hand and waiting for mommy and daddy to give you whatever you need. How about having your car, your books, and your money stolen and on top of that working 40 hours a week just to survive and getting your gpa messed up like I did last quarter? How about raising kids while doing premed like some people I know. How about overcoming kidney disease, and raising a younger brother and sister because your mother died, like a friend of mine in premed is doing right now. I'm sorry but you need to go out into the world. You sound like someone who would most likely crack under any type of real world pressure.

To others: I guess maybe I was whining on this post because I was once one of those people obsessing over 'A-'s" until my gpa got messed up last quarter. But no matter what difficulties I faced I can't make any excuses for it because I know that you can overcome any difficulty you encounter. So I apologize to those people with high gpa's who felt offended with the 'snob' reference(of course with the exclusion of twaspatz) . Anyway, I brought this topic of '4.0 snobs' up because of the number of ridiculous comments made by some of the people on md applicants. Like one of them said: I have never been rejected and this just proves that I am a superior ...etc. I have got several full rides from schools and will probablt attend Yale, Harvard, Stanford. I work and sleep medicine.

Ridiculous, but I guess from what I've heard some of these profiles are fake. I don't think 4.0 gpa's necessarily mean you are smart, it A) means you can work the system in college well, especially when choosing the right classes for you and B) it means you know how to study


oh yeah twaspatz, Work Harder. People on Welfare are depending on You. :smuggrin:
 

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Farrah,

What you describe are basically lifestyle choices.

If you have kids and then want to go back to school, it is rough, no doubt.

But then again, you made that choice. There is no one to blame for that misfortune (and how could someone say bringing a child into this world is a misfortune) but your own.
 

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Originally posted by ZekeMD
Well since I cured AIDS...who needs condoms?! :clap:

Oh yea I forgot about that, the almighty honorable Dr. Zeke ;)

Originally posted by JLee
me and mike update pretty frequently to let the people who randomly follow an applicants process our progress and our thoughts.

I personally am interested in looking over other peoples' profile, and I think in the process, I truly realize how unpredictable it is (People kept on saying that before I apply, but I mean it didn't hit me until I actually went through the process myself).

And occasionally I'll get PM's from other international students saying, "Wow you're brave, if I got an 8 in verbal I wouldn't even apply!" And I'm like like, "There you go, I got in, as long as you show good written and spoken communication skills, a flaw in your application won't keep you out.

So I think in some cases, the profiles can serve as inspirations to others.
 

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Farrah,

What you describe are basically lifestyle choices.

If you have kids and then want to go back to school, it is rough, no doubt.

But then again, you made that choice. There is no one to blame for that misfortune (and how could someone say bringing a child into this world is a misfortune) but your own.

I don't have kids, but I don't think most who do have kids 'complain' or blame others for their problems. Also, I wouldn't consider my friend who overcame kidney disease and who now has to raise her younger siblings made that 'lifestyle' choice, neither do I think that having no other option but to work is a 'lifestyle' choice. It is more a circumstance of life you have to deal with and overcome.
 

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I ran the following searches in MDapplicants and found it interesting how many "lower" MCAT/GPA folks there were that posted acceptances considering the decks are supposedly stacked against them. Also, I suspect that most folks don't want to post until they have at least one acceptance. I know I didn't.

Please note that there are only 12 profiles out of 1238 that have a 4.0 GPA and a 38+ on the MCAT. One of those applicants did not get any acceptances.


You searched for applicants:
MCAT score greater than 38
Overall GPA greater than 4.00
12 results in set, 38.9 average MCAT, 4.00 average GPA. Search took 0.28 seconds.

You searched for applicants:
MCAT score greater than 38
Overall GPA greater than 4.00
Accepted to Any School
11 results in set, 38.7 average MCAT, 4.00 average GPA. Search took 0.19 seconds.

You searched for applicants:
MCAT score less than 30
Overall GPA less than 3.20
38 results in set, 26.2 average MCAT, 2.93 average GPA. Search took 0.29 seconds.

You searched for applicants:
MCAT score less than 30
Overall GPA less than 3.20
Accepted to Any School
25 results in set, 26.9 average MCAT, 3.06 average GPA. Search took 0.19 seconds.

You searched for applicants:
Accepted to Any School
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This site indexes 1238 profiles, with an average overall GPA of 3.61 and an average MCAT score of 31.3. These applicants applied to an average of 13.8 schools, were invited to an average of 5.8 interviews, and received an average of 2.4 acceptances. Since the launch of this site on January 8th, 2003, there have been 147,578 visits and 544,698 searches performed.
 
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Originally posted by Farrah
Anyway, I brought this topic of '4.0 snobs' up because of the number of ridiculous comments made by some of the people on md applicants. Like one of them said: I have never been rejected and this just proves that I am a superior ...etc. I have got several full rides from schools and will probablt attend Yale, Harvard, Stanford. I work and sleep medicine.

Ridiculous, but I guess from what I've heard some of these profiles are fake.

Yeah, this applicant seems pretty obnoxious; take it with a grain of salt: http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=1482
 

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Seems totally fake to me.

Obviously...There are no black people in Nebraska.
 

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Originally posted by CalBeE
Oh yea I forgot about that, the almighty honorable Dr. Zeke ;)



I personally am interested in looking over other peoples' profile, and I think in the process, I truly realize how unpredictable it is (People kept on saying that before I apply, but I mean it didn't hit me until I actually went through the process myself).

And occasionally I'll get PM's from other international students saying, "Wow you're brave, if I got an 8 in verbal I wouldn't even apply!" And I'm like like, "There you go, I got in, as long as you show good written and spoken communication skills, a flaw in your application won't keep you out.

So I think in some cases, the profiles can serve as inspirations to others.


:rolleyes: I swear to God... you have such a good application and you make that 8 seem like the end of the world. You're a great applicant and you have tons of acceptances... Did you ever really doubt?

I agree though, mdapplicants is a good guide for students to see where they can end up. Unfortunately, it's really biased, most of the people who post are obviously medical school bound. What is the average score of applied students... like a 27? The ave. on MDapplicants is what a 32? Pffft.
 

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Originally posted by peterockduke
:rolleyes: I swear to God... you have such a good application and you make that 8 seem like the end of the world. You're a great applicant and you have tons of acceptances... Did you ever really doubt?

I agree though, mdapplicants is a good guide for students to see where they can end up. Unfortunately, it's really biased, most of the people who post are obviously medical school bound. What is the average score of applied students... like a 27? The ave. on MDapplicants is what a 32? Pffft.

Well IN RETROSPECT of course I feel that it was fine. But before I apply, I didn't know. I had contemplated about retaking the MCAT, but then my advisor said I didn't need to so I decided not to, and instead spend the time on other stuff. I think 8 in verbal may raise some concerns in certain cases though.
 

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hey, thats me! i guess you are just jealous of me after reading my superior profile... it comes with the territory i guess.... ah the burden of being so superior...

:laugh:

Sure...Actually I think that's the profile of my super smart twin. We were separated at birth and I don't know why...maybe b/c of genetic mutation he became Black, and I became Asian :D
 

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Originally posted by CalBeE
Seems totally fake to me.

Plus he can't spell.

Originally posted by somone on MDapplicants
"I have never been rejected and this just proves that I am a superior candidate. I have got several full rides from schools and will probablt attend Yale, Harvard, Stanford. I work and sleep medicine."
 

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Originally posted by rgporter
Plus he can't spell.

That seems more like an errant keystroke than a mispelling.

Also what is this obession with 4.0ers. Out of the 13 results for 37+ and 4.0 only 3 came from higher ranked schools, and Cornell doesnt really count because it gives you 4.3s for A+'s :rolleyes: .

Its not uncommon to see smart students, like these individuals, just dominate at a public school and get a 4.0. The good thing for them is that they have a very good MCAT to boot.

Getting a 4.0 is a lot like going through the regular season of the NCAA tourament undefeated (like St Joes). You can only do it if you're actually good to begin with (high MCAT) and everyone else is mediocre or bad (Atlantic 10) so that you have almost no chance of getting the dreaded A- that would kill your 4.0.
 

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Why does it come as a surprise that the profile is fake?

Look closer! He has already been accepted to Penn, Yale and Harvard for the 2004 admissions cycle.
 

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Originally posted by Gleevec
That seems more like an errant keystroke than a mispelling...

Yeah it's a typo for sure. I was just pointing out that it's likely to be a fake since anyone intelligent enough to achieve those numbers probably proof-reads fairly well.
 

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This profile is hard to swallow. 8 pubs! What the heck?!! Grad students find that number hard to get.

Its obviously fake, for a number of reasons already stated on this thread.
 

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Originally posted by researchprof
This profile is hard to swallow. 8 pubs! What the heck?!! Grad students find that number hard to get.

Some people inflate their number of publications by counting reviewed conferences where they've submitted an abstract. Those aren't "real" publications but some poeple count them as such; thus you get some very professors (just out of first 2 year post-doc) who claim to have 80+ pubs but actually have a much smaller number of peer-reviewed journal pubs. The ohter possibility is he's worked for a x-ray crystallographer. Those guys get on everyone's papers who used their services. But I do think this profile is a fake. I'm just saying it's possible for an undergrad to look like he/she has many pubs.
 
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