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Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by arsenewenger, Mar 7, 2007.

  1. arsenewenger

    arsenewenger 2+ Year Member

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    What role do tour guides play in the selection process?
     
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  3. StritchMD2011

    StritchMD2011 Member 10+ Year Member

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    I doubt they play any role. Perhaps if you were a huge jerk to them, they might feel obliged to talk to admissions staff to warn you.

    I'm positive that they're not there to secretly rate you and report back to admissions.
     
  4. koennen

    koennen Lend Me An Ear 10+ Year Member

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    Actually, it's a little known fact but tour guides are probably the key to getting into med school. I understand their input on your application counts more than you interviewer's.
     
  5. stoppushingit

    stoppushingit stupid savant 2+ Year Member

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    are you being sarcastic?

    i think it varies by school
     
  6. turkleton

    turkleton Capeless Crusader 2+ Year Member

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    :laugh: That's just mean.... messing with anxious pre-meds is as easier than beating the Royals.... yea spring training
     
  7. lilold3chordme

    lilold3chordme Line Cook 7+ Year Member

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    at most schools, i think the tour guides do not figure into the decision process. that being said, if you went out of your way to make a really negative impression on a tour guide, i wouldn't be surprised if they brought it up with the committee. usually, they reassure us that they're not there to report back to the admissions staff. so, if you have tough questions, feel free to ask them. but i'd err on the side of caution when it comes to racist/sexist jokes or slurs, inappropriate comments, etc. just use common sense.

    however, i do know for a fact that at emory, your tour guide is also one of the 3 panelists you will have at your group interviewer. so, their say very much does matter.

    as a general rule, just be on your best behavior. i just go in thinking anyone can impact my status there, better safe than sorry.
     
  8. koennen

    koennen Lend Me An Ear 10+ Year Member

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    Incorrect. Totally incorrect.
     
  9. Law2Doc

    Law2Doc 5K+ Member Physician Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    While they certainly aren't a formal part of the process, it is not unheard of for them to be asked their opinion of any applicants who stood out positively/negatively. You want to keep your game face on for the entire time you are on campus.
     
  10. Tired Pigeon

    Tired Pigeon 7+ Year Member

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    Bottom line, don't be a jackass on interview day. Or any other day, for that matter.
     
  11. The Buff

    The Buff The Big Cat 7+ Year Member

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    Right behind you...
    I'm a tour guide at my school, and it is as above. We have no say, but if you are a total jackass, and I am having a bad day, I might say something. maybe. I am a laid back guy, but I don't think anyone else would "turn you in" for anything short of completely out of line, either. I actually like it when the interviewees relax a little on the tour, it feels less like I am leading a group of robots or something.

    Anyway, this is obviously just one person's opinion from one school, but I would say that anywhere you go just don't be a tool and you will be fine.
     
  12. 45408

    45408 aw buddy 7+ Year Member

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    What's your inside scoop? I've actually been a tour guide, and no, we don't have any input on the process. If you were insulting to me though, I'd definitely run that past the director of admissions. Otherwise, I wouldn't really care if you were loud/quiet/shy/friendly/etc. Most of the applicants were pretty quiet.
     
  13. gary5

    gary5 Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Typically, none. But never underestimate the ability of a foolish applicant to get themselves rejected. The opportunities are limitless!
     
  14. arsenewenger

    arsenewenger 2+ Year Member

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    :thumbup:
     
  15. Pansit

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    Is that the arsenal coach as your avatar...:thumbup:
     
  16. bigdan

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    I tour guide as well. I have no input whatsoever into what happens; rude as it may sound, I simply do not remember anyone's name, let alone what they say.

    Mention was made to the ad comm about two students - one said he really wanted to fu*k one of the staff, the other said his mother wrote his application essays to my school and babbled on about how he really didn't want to be there. Simply amazing.

    dc
     
  17. baylormed

    baylormed On the Search 5+ Year Member

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    Right behind you
    :eek: Wow. So...crazy mothers do exist. Ridiculous.
     
  18. arsenewenger

    arsenewenger 2+ Year Member

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    Yes. That's my real life tour guide
     
  19. Flopotomist

    Flopotomist I love the Chicago USPS 7+ Year Member

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    At my school (Loyola) we have absolutely no say. It is designed that way so that interviewees can relax, and get to know about the school without feeling like they are being evaluated.

    Normally it is a great system I think - although I have had one TOTAL tool that I gave a tour to (obnoxiously rude, demeaning, and borderline crazy) and I REALLY REALLY wanted to say something to somebody on the ADCOM, but I just trust the system will weed this person out.
     
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    This applies to residency, but we have a "ranking day" (almost like in the movie "Animal House") where all of the residents get to give their input on applicants. If you act like a jackass at the applicant dinner or during the tour it will come out and it could effect your ranking.

    The point is: If you've got nothing to say, don't say it. No points subtracted for being quiet on the tour and not asking any questions of the medical student (or resident) tour guide. I'm a pretty funny guy and talk a lot but even I had the good sense to be low-key on tours and the like.
     
  21. lina123321

    lina123321 ralph: im a unitard 5+ Year Member

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    when i went to tufts for an interview, the tourguides, and med students hanging out w/us in the conference room, made it explicit that they were in no way involved in the selection process, and were not judging/monitoring us..it made me wonder whats going on w/the tourguides at other schools.:confused:
     
  22. arsenewenger

    arsenewenger 2+ Year Member

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    I am beginning to think ... that is just BS

    Actually , my concern with the effect Tour guides have on the selection process originated after my Tufts interview!.
     
  23. DoctaJay

    DoctaJay bone breaker Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    Its a known fact that at Howard, a couple of the students you meet with during the "lunch with med students" section are on the admissions committee. But that is not the norm for most schools.
     
  24. boyz of 4d

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    Im in charge of tours at NYMC, and I assure you we have no input on admissions. The only time we do is if someone said something condescending or negative about the school during the tour. Besides that we are here to help you get an idea of what the students are like.
     
  25. deuist

    deuist Stealthfully Sarcastic Physician Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

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    I'm a tour guide. On one occasion we had a student who was rude to other applicants, came across as being better than others, and insulted an attending on a hospital tour. We reported him to the admissions committee and he was immediately rejected.
     
  26. deuist

    deuist Stealthfully Sarcastic Physician Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

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    Very true. I gave a tour today to two interviewees. One was very quiet and polite, while the other constantly interrupted me and wanted to tell other applicant about how our school works. Since I'm at a regional campus on the campus of Florida Atlantic University, I was particularly surprised when she said, "The grad students are your TA's during anatomy? Are they good? I took (post-bac) classes here and the undergraduates are stupid." You can imagine which of the two I would want to come here next year.
     
  27. lina123321

    lina123321 ralph: im a unitard 5+ Year Member

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    haha..i know me tooo..the thought never crossed my mind before that...:D
     

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