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Is there a Middletown Campus thread? I'm having a hard time finding it! I just received an interview there!
Got a secondary in the last week of August! But nothing else since then!Has anyone received a secondary application or interview invite from Harlem campus yet?
Hey guys current student here at TouroCOM-harlem. Not sure why some people have been posting negative threads/comments about the school. I'm sure every student's experience is different but for the most part everyone I know is grateful to be where they're at. Of course changes could be made-that goes without saying for any school but with our new dean making changes already and being super receptive towards the students, I wouldn't just listen to anyone posting facts without proof regarding the school. Just to clarify, our step 1 scores are one of the highest (not lowest, as indicated on the first page). And yes, although the school did over accept last year- they've learnt their lesson. Also TouroCOM-harlem was the third most applied medical school last year which probably explains the overacceptance but it's not something I would be worried about for upcoming years. http://www.usnews.com/education/bes...6/10-medical-schools-with-the-most-applicants. I've spent almost 2 two years at Touro and sure there are some things I wish could be changed but for the most part I'm grateful to be here.
In terms of the clicker curriculum- it's for some people, its not for others. Depends on your learning style. I hated undergrad- never got anything out of professors just rambling about stuff. Now I have the option to rewind or 2x the speed of the videos beforehand. And the clickers from 1-5 is only a big thing during first year, during second year there's definitely more free time. And even clickers- I wouldnt say all of us are just on "facebook/reddit" doing nothing- it gives us a better idea of what we should focus on when we're approaching the exam. The thing is YOU have to do the work- YOU have to be on top of your stuff. It's med school- it's supposed to be hard lol but complaining about the school and writing degrading comments about it that don't even reflect the majority of the student body is unacceptable. Sorry for the ramble but just wanted to put it out there that yes, there are students like myself that are happy to be here and are doing pretty darn good things. (Just look up our match list from previous years). At the end of the day, it boils down to how much work you're willing to put in when it comes to classes, boards, etc.
As for current admission stats, I don't know much about the current acceptance stats but for our class year the average MCAT was a 32. (From my understanding TouroCOM-Harlem likes the high mcat, doesnt mind the low gpa). But please don't take the final word from me either- just a current second year. Best of luck with your application cycle!
You're being disingenuous.
Even on the survey that the faculty conducted, 56% of students expressed discontent with the school... and that's in a situation where the students' identity was clearly exposed.
60 students between middletown and harlem were held back from writing comlex 1 this year. Ask the SGA but right now they're being shills for the admin.
22% failed step 2.
AND THE SCHOOL IS ON PROBATION.
At this point you have to be completely desperate to pick this school.
where do you see that it's on probation? did a quick google search, didn't find anything
It's on the class facebook page for the first years and second years. Funniest part is that the Administration isnt even letting the current 3rd and 4th years know. We find out through facebook..
Lol so happy I don't have to go through the application BS again. Just randomly came across this thread while procrastinating studying. I'm a first year at Touro. Yes, people have some gripes, but overall as someone else posted, people are happy. I just completed a masters at an MD school, and would say that the lectures at Touro are actually better than at the MD school. As for the clickers, some like them, some hate them, most people are somewhere in the middle. You get out what you put in. People who are telling you to never apply to Touro are either trolls or don't want the competition. People have been talking about how there's a lack of transparency at Touro, and it seems like the administration is working very hard to change that. I am happy to be at this school, and can answer questions people have about it.since we can't access the group page, could you screen shot and post the "probation" news?
Lol so happy I don't have to go through the application BS again. Just randomly came across this thread while procrastinating studying. I'm a first year at Touro. Yes, people have some gripes, but overall as someone else posted, people are happy. I just completed a masters at an MD school, and would say that the lectures at Touro are actually better than at the MD school. As for the clickers, some like them, some hate them, most people are somewhere in the middle. You get out what you put in. People who are telling you to never apply to Touro are either trolls or don't want the competition. People have been talking about how there's a lack of transparency at Touro, and it seems like the administration is working very hard to change that. I am happy to be at this school, and can answer questions people have about it.
Lol I think I know who you are. Hahaha for some reason I have a feeling I'll be seeing you at our anatomy lab table tomorrow Meowww lol you'll get that if its youLol so happy I don't have to go through the application BS again. Just randomly came across this thread while procrastinating studying. I'm a first year at Touro. Yes, people have some gripes, but overall as someone else posted, people are happy. I just completed a masters at an MD school, and would say that the lectures at Touro are actually better than at the MD school. As for the clickers, some like them, some hate them, most people are somewhere in the middle. You get out what you put in. People who are telling you to never apply to Touro are either trolls or don't want the competition. People have been talking about how there's a lack of transparency at Touro, and it seems like the administration is working very hard to change that. I am happy to be at this school, and can answer questions people have about it.
Dissatisfied with what??? You're not being specific. 1/2 of us aren't saying we're dissatisfied with the school over all, are we? Clickers, maybe...cuz everyone is so far behind and there's sooooooo much work to do...welcome to med schoolIt's not "some people". It was >50% of the student body willing to tell the faculty that they're dissatisfied and attach their I.D. to it.
Also, keep recommending the school with the lowest pass rates in the nation. If 25% are held back from writing step 1 and another 20% fail step 2, something is ridiculously wrong.
And speaking of lack of transparency, what do you call it when a school is put on probation and the students don't know for ~3-4 months? They have yet to state the demands and changes COCA requires of Touro..
You're being disingenuous.
Even on the survey that the faculty conducted, 56% of students expressed discontent with the school... and that's in a situation where the students' identity was clearly exposed.
60 students between middletown and harlem were held back from writing comlex 1 this year. Ask the SGA but right now they're being shills for the admin.
22% failed step 2.
AND THE SCHOOL IS ON PROBATION.
At this point you have to be completely desperate to pick this school.
Lol so happy I don't have to go through the application BS again. Just randomly came across this thread while procrastinating studying. I'm a first year at Touro. Yes, people have some gripes, but overall as someone else posted, people are happy. I just completed a masters at an MD school, and would say that the lectures at Touro are actually better than at the MD school. As for the clickers, some like them, some hate them, most people are somewhere in the middle. You get out what you put in. People who are telling you to never apply to Touro are either trolls or don't want the competition. People have been talking about how there's a lack of transparency at Touro, and it seems like the administration is working very hard to change that. I am happy to be at this school, and can answer questions people have about it.
It was ONE student who complained. wouldn't be surprised if it was you @doczebraI don't know. Obviously people are not happy. It was because of student complaints that Touro got put on probation.
It was ONE student who complained. wouldn't be surprised if it was you @doczebra
you don't know that.
Everything is all so suspect here.
I still haven't received a secondary from TOUROCOM, anyone else in the same boat? I received all of my other DO secondaries...
This is not a thread to push your strange agenda @doczebra. This is a thread for potential incoming students to get a fair representation of what our school is like. A school that, yes, certainly has it's faults and growing pains, but is nowhere near the hellhole you make it. I'm sorry if you've had that experience, but most students here do not view the school this way.
@doczebra is making egregious claims that are not true. 25% of the class is not held back from taking Step 1. They may have had to pass the COMSAE before taking it COMLEX, but that is not the same thing as "being held back", implying permanence, and is a practice that happens in several MD and DO schools. I'm sure that students do complain about things. I have personally complained about the lack of sleep I get, how difficult the exams are, and how cold Anatomy lab can get multiple times. You know, standard medical school whining. I can say with no hesitation that 56% of our student body is not as unhappy with our school as this lone student claims.
For everyone else on this thread that is truly looking for answers, I am sorry that you are being dragged into this strange situation. You have made this thread to talk to each other and find out what our school is like and I hope that the other students who have given honest, transparent feedback and will continue to do so can help you get a feel for if you would fit in here.
It's none of your business what's on our class page, or who is in our class. No screen shotting private group conversationsSince this other student keeps posting about this "news release" on the touro student group page on Facebook. Can anyone validate if this claim is true by snapshotting whats posted on there?
It's none of your business what's on our class page, or who is in our class. No screen shotting private group conversations
I'm only asking if what that student said was true that the school told the students through the group page. If truly all of the other students such as yourself are encouraging applicants to disregard what this student is saying, isn't it just easy to show that the school never posted anything like that?
Or else it tells us applicants that this student may have exaggerated a lot of things but was right when stating that this school is on probation, which is not something that applicants can take lightly.
Lol I think I know who you are. Hahaha for some reason I have a feeling I'll be seeing you at our anatomy lab table tomorrow Meowww lol you'll get that if its you
I'm only asking if what that student said was true that the school told the students through the group page. If truly all of the other students such as yourself are encouraging applicants to disregard what this student is saying, isn't it just easy to show that the school never posted anything like that?
Or else it tells us applicants that this student may have exaggerated a lot of things but was right when stating that this school is on probation, which is not something that applicants can take lightly.
Can't wait for @doczebra to come drop some bombs...btw she's already mentioned more than once that she's a 3rd year currently on rotations so she definitely isn't at anyone's anatomy lab table.
i was a Touro MS student last year so i can't honestly speak about anything that's currently happening there but based on my own experiences, i wouldn't be surprised if everything was true. yes, the administration is very shady. yes, there are a lot of questionable practices and rules. yes, having clickers every day and exams every week is not the best way to manage time at all.
no school is perfect but it's evident that Touro has some issues going on. some people might be totally satisfied with the school, which is great. but it's not really fair to get aggressive with other students who are vocal about the school's problems.
to say that it's an "excellent school" is SUCH a reach btw..come on now.
bruh sit tha **** down....
Can't wait for @doczebra to come drop some bombs...btw she's already mentioned more than once that she's a 3rd year currently on rotations so she definitely isn't at anyone's anatomy lab table.
i was a Touro MS student last year so i can't honestly speak about anything that's currently happening there but based on my own experiences, i wouldn't be surprised if everything was true. yes, the administration is very shady. yes, there are a lot of questionable practices and rules. yes, having clickers every day and exams every week is not the best way to manage time at all.
no school is perfect but it's evident that Touro has some issues going on. some people might be totally satisfied with the school, which is great. but it's not really fair to get aggressive with other students who are vocal about the school's problems.
to say that it's an "excellent school" is SUCH a reach btw..come on now.
You don't even know the entire story. This student is clearly someone VERY dissatisfied with Touro (probably messed up their grades, rotations, etc and is blaming Touro for it) but their dissatisfaction DOES NOT speak for everyone else. Sure there are deficits, but they're definitely being worked on. The admin at this very moment is receptive to what we have to say. A year ago? Probably not. Which is why they're paying the price for it. But I certainly think this isn't permanent, rather a HUGE step towards a better Touro. That being said, (with all due respect) for someone who didn't even get into the DO program from the MS program should reserve their opinions of the school. This is just another biased perspective from someone who may be dissatisfied with their turnout. Again, none of us are trying to get aggressive here nor is anyone saying it's an excellent school. But, when so many of us current Touro students are giving you our perspective, we hope you too can respect that.
The grading system in the MS program is insane, to say the least. Safe to say that this person doesn't even know what she's talking about.Wow, that's pretty mean. Against a fellow Touro student too. I would have just disagreed with them, but you drove in that screwdriver. Well done!
With friends like you, who needs enemies, am I right?
I still haven't received a secondary from TOUROCOM, anyone else in the same boat? I received all of my other DO secondaries...
I have not received one yet either
When I applied the secondaries didn't go out until November or so. Don't know if things have changed, but be patient. I know this can be a stressful time, but try not to let it overwhelm you. Best of luck!
Things must've changed. Sorry, am not much help. Nonetheless, don't stress, am sure you'll get it soon. In the meantime, if you know the prompt start working on it.Well, we got an email saying the primary applications were going to be reviewed starting August 31st, and that we should not call to check the status of our applications until September 16th. I have seen a few people have received secondaries, but not as much as I would expect by this time of year. So either they are swamped with a lot of primary apps....ooooorrrr, they just hate us lol
Very interesting you are speaking from your high horse, I hope it gets you far. If I didnt know any better, I would think you were doczebra's alt account.LOL let me tell you something. Not getting into Touro was a blessing. Re-taking (and acing) the MCAT was a small price to pay since I will most likely go to a school better than yours. Secondly, paying tuition and getting a degree from Touro means I can say whatever the hell I want about it, period. Who on earth says only current students are allowed to voice their opinions? Frankly I couldn't care less about current Touro students giving me their perspective..who are you? Someone whose seat was almost taken away because of shady, money-hungry administration, that's who you are. Just a few months ago, I was hunched over in the library just like you are now so spare me.
Also, I have absolutely nothing to be dissatisfied about. I'm at home saving money, getting IIs, eating free food, not paying outrageous NYC rent, and driving my car instead of waiting for a train in the rat-infested 125th St station. you're arguing about your crappy school to strangers on the internet who you will never meet. Being put on probation is a huge step towards your precious school losing its accreditation so go focus on that instead of trying to convince people who are already in the know that things really aren't that bad.
Nope. I was a Touro student last year so i know exactly what i'm talking about when i say the school has issues. have a good one!So you haven't even been accepted to medical school?
Very interesting you are speaking from your high horse, I hope it gets you far. If I didnt know any better, I would think you were doczebra's alt account.
We are talking about Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine, where we become a DO. Are you getting a DO from the school? No. Are you a medical student? No. This is why current students are considerably more important than you, and frankly, you're on the same level as everyone applying this cycle, believe it or not.
Nearly every student has said this school provides a great education, though the administration isnt fantastic. Which is the same at many schools. And probation leading to losing accreditation? Hardly, it was a one-time over-enrollment, and surprise! Other MD schools and DO schools have been on probation before too. Even "better" schools. Couple that with admins saying that's not a problem to worry about, and your post sounds like a bunch of sour grapes.
you should be good..early app and solid stats. good luck!I received my secondary and submitted on 9/2. I know they pre-screen decently extensively so it takes time. I haven't heard anything other than confirmation since submitting. My friend who is now year 3 here didn't submit until January of her year and was fine. In case anyone asks my stats are: 3.8 GPA, 502 MCAT, Extensive experience and ECs. OOS though.
Thank you for the positivity @hellobello18 ! And I understand people may have bad opinions about the school but I don't think it worth our time to hash it out on here. Every school has differing opinions but at the end of the day, the graduates are still docs so then it's up to the individual to be a good doc. Negativity and putting certain schools down to hopeful applicants is not helping our application process.you should be good..early app and solid stats. good luck!