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troubling article...
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Without a doubt, indivuduals could go through these schools and emerge with a competetive medical education. This article is pretty sladerous towards those schools, though I do believe more investigation is warranted.
I'm more worried about a doctor who took liscensing exams 7 times before passing!
I'm more worried about a doctor who took liscensing exams 7 times before passing!
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I think this article sets a dangerous precedent. I do not want to see the reputation of black medical schools suffer any more than they already have because of articles like these. There are going to be consequences to accepting people with low stats. Some people with low stats can become good doctors, and there are also a few who are not meant to be doctors. I think the schools could do a better job screening applicants, but the problems cited in that article are real. This does not speak to the quality of the education at these schools, however. The majority of people at these are intelligent, caring, and dedicated students who will become great doctors. I just hope that a few individuals, that probably should not have become doctors, do not bring more negativity to these schools than they have already experienced. Their place in medical school education is unique and valuable and they need more support to make them better.
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Uhhh.. I dont care if a school is 100% white or 100% asian.
ANY school that has a disciplinary record like the schools mentioend in the article need to take a serious internal look at their policies in admissions and/or their educational curriculum.
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Thats what I said. I think the schools could improve their applicant screening. But I think the article leads people to assume the education at the school is at fault, which is not the case. These schools provide a solid education. The problem is with the few bad individuals that are making their way into the schools. These type of individuals can be found at any school. The problem is that more are found at these "lower tier" schools, and this does need to be addressed.
AA is not perfect, but the majority of people that benefit from AA are doing well, and are making a difference in their community.
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I wonder if there is some study that shows the original stats for those physicians that do so poorly in the real world.... it would be interesting to analyze their gpa, mcat, usmles, med grades, race, sex, etc....
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As an entering MS 1 at Meharry this fall, I feel inclined to reply. Please note that the study in which these findings were noted by the NSF was in 1977 ( ! ) Old data by any journal's standards. Let's face it, poor outcomes can happen to the best of us, and it's inexcusable. My concern lies with the parameters of this study....was this across the board in all specialties ? ....does it pertain to surgical errors.....? .......medication errors.....? What ? Medical error is a more complex issue than where one went to school. Just my 2 cents......I went to an ivy league undergrad, and it definitely does NOT make me any more capable than my counterparts who did not....anyway.....moving on🙂
http://www.ctnow.com/media/acrobat/2003-06/8395716.pdf
Here is a better version of the article which lists all the schools. Note that Howard had 140 disciplinary actions while University of California Irvine had 90.
Also anyone will tell you it is not the med school it is the residency that determines what kind of doctor you will be.
But we need to do a better job of weeding out the bad doctors whether they be at UC Irvine or at Howard.
Don't let anyone tell you that Howard doesn't produce great doctors. It does!
Here is a better version of the article which lists all the schools. Note that Howard had 140 disciplinary actions while University of California Irvine had 90.
Also anyone will tell you it is not the med school it is the residency that determines what kind of doctor you will be.
But we need to do a better job of weeding out the bad doctors whether they be at UC Irvine or at Howard.
Don't let anyone tell you that Howard doesn't produce great doctors. It does!
