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Hey everyone. New to board. Does anyone know anything about U of Alabama's GS program? Also, has anyone heard from U of Washington yet? I've noticed that it's not listed by anyone on the interview thread. Any feedback would be appreciated.
 
luckherm1 said:
Also, has anyone heard from U of Washington yet? I've noticed that it's not listed by anyone on the interview thread. Any feedback would be appreciated.


Speak of the debbil. They just told me to take a hike. Here's hoping they rejected me because they accepted you!

Luckily for me it was one of the "why did I even apply there?" places (since I would jump off a bridge if I lived in the rainy, rainy, rainy Pacific Northwest...no offense, but I'm native Texan), but rejection still sucks.
 
Yep. Wouldn't ya know. After posting this, I checked my e-mail (this has become pathologic) and found a big fat "Thanks for playing, but..." letter from Washington. Oh, well.
 
solstice118 said:
Just heard today. 🙂
me too.
is anyone else pissed that tons of the big programs seem to offer the SAME 3 days to interview. it's ridiculous.
ucsf
duke
hopkins
upenn
michigan
wash u
wisconsin
mayo
ucsd

well, i at least, find this whole scheduling thing frustrating.....
i give up.
 
here's to being rejected by U Dub! I didn't want to go there anyway snooty bastards! But thanks, you just gave me another reason to drink more beer!
 
i'd like to hear about UAB as well.

i accepted an interview there. i am from texas. i will probably stay in the south. i hear that UAB is a big old-school program. that's all i know. i hear birmingham is a pretty town, but not many young people.

any other input?
 
Hey UT-Lilly:

I saw that you are from Austin. Do you know anything about Scott & White? I, too, am interviewing at UAB but I really don't know much about it other than the info on their website.
 
First, sorry about the length of this post and congratulations on your invite to UAB. I almost cringe while writing this because I feel as if I am letting the "cat out of the bag" about how great a place UAB is to train. Perhaps I can serve as the unofficial ambassador considering that I'll soon be obtaining my MD from this institution. (I am a surgery applicant this year as well).

The city of Birmingham is nestled in a valley and I find it to be quite beautiful. Population size is somewhere between 100k to 200k with much of the population lying somewhat south of the city towards suburbia. The weather can range from the upper 90's in the heat of summer and can be quite humid at times (after all this is the South). Rarely does the temperature drop below the teens at even the coldest portions of winter and for most of the winter season will be well above freezing. If snow is your thing, you won't see any of it here (if there is even the faintest threat of snow it seems as if the whole state shuts down and your neighbors will stockpile commodities as if they were preparing for a nuclear fallout). Cost of living is second to none, but of course how far your budget will stretch depends upon the neighborhood in which you choose to live and how far you can stomach to commute. Most residents in fact own houses rather than rent. Night life is so so, but after all, as a surgery resident you will not be seeing much of that anyway. The political nature of Birmingham and Alabama for that matter is quite conservative but has far progressed from the racism days of nearly half a century ago. This was an obvious deterrent in the past but Birmingham boasts a pretty diverse population with an increasingly rising Mexican American influx.

The state past time is collegiate athletics so be prepared to discuss the subtle nuances of Alabama vs. Auburn for the duration of your training. There is plenty to do around Birmingham, tons of great restaurants, malls, golfing, hiking, you name it. If you like working out, UAB has just finished a brand new work out facility that is a mecca to physical fitness and is just two blocks away from the main hospital. This place has a huge pool complete with several adjoining whirlpools all connected with a lazy river, awesome racketball courts, several full basketball courts, treadmills/ellipticals/rowers/bikes galore all complete with several TV's on different channels (CNN, ESPN, etc.) with boxes on your machine where you plug in your headphones for sound, tons of freeweights, tons of machines, a rock climbing wall, and an elevated track. You name it, this new facility has it. This place is a site to behold and has recently been my new home away from home.

Now to the meat about UAB. This place too is a site to behold and each and every day I am floored by the size of this collusus of a medical institution. The city of Birmingham is divided into two haves, the north side and the south side with the south side's main dedidication being to UAB. At each and every turn you are met by a new research building or hospital dedicated facility. UAB has recently added a huge addition to the main hospital called the North Pavillion. This new facility houses the ER on its ground floor with state of the art trauma bays that can be converted to OR's instantaneously (equipped with surgical lighting, air filtration, and anesthesia booms). Right across the hall from the trauma bays are too CT scanners allowing quick and easy diagnosis. The main OR's are just a simple express elevator ride up 6 floors and you can be in the OR in no time.

The new North Pavillion facility houses two seperate floors dedicated to operating (that's right we have two floors of OR's in our huge new hospital megaplex). The 5th floor of the North Pavillion is used mainly by Cardiac, Thoracic, and Neuro. The 7th floor OR's (of which there are more in number than those on the 5th floor) are used by GI, Surg Onc, ENT, OB-GYN, and Ortho. The OR's are state of the art (I know this is a cliche but upon attending the recent American College of Surgeons Meeting and seeing the expo showcasing the latest and best of what surgical technology has to offer, I saw little that we did not already have at UAB). The UAB OR's are for lack of a better discriptor, ginormous. There are cameras in the lighting booms which broadcast images via a closed circuit network and can be seen by any LCD screen in any OR. Therefore, if you have an attending running several rooms at a time, which happens often, you can see what is taking place in adjoining rooms allowing them to scrub out and handle/supervise the tricky portions of cases with the Chief's. You can also record your operations on DVD (all rooms are equipped with DVD recorders) as well as listen to all your attendings favorite hits over the built in sound system in each OR suite. Also in each OR is a custom boom housing a computer, thus allowing the resident to transmit orders electronically before and after the case. Each and every OR is equipped with roughly four LCD screens which are on mobile booms attached to the ceiling and allow you to display CT images, clinic notes, other OR's/your own OR for us lowly med students as above, as well as vitals from anesthesia. This is truly a site to be seen and you will find no one more cutting edge than UAB is at the present.

The new North Pavillion facility houses the brand new surgical ICU's (main surgery ICU right down the hall from the OR's on the 7th floor; the same for the CV ICU on the 5th floor). The upper floors of the North Pavillion house the trauma floors as well as the very nice Trauma and Burn ICU facilities.

I belive the training at UAB is second to none. We have everything that one could ask for in a surgical residency (a VA Hospital, a Children's Hospital, a County Hospital for indigent care servicing the Jefferson County are called Cooper Green), and a fantastic refferal clinic (the Kirklin Clinic in honor of Dr. Kirklin who helped pioneer cardiac surgery) complete with around a dozen OR's for outpatient surgery. Ancillary staff is great (you will never have to do IV's, x-rays, etc...). All orders are placed via computer (a somewhat archaic program called PIN that is soon to be replaced by a new updated system that is supposed to be similar to the famed VA hospital system). All clinic notes are dictated by attendings and are available on hospital computers. In addition, all images are available on the hospital computers.

Every aspect of surgical training is addressed thoroughly at UAB and upon leaving this jugernaut you will be prepared to be either an academic leader or a shining star in the private hospital of your choice. The old badge that UAB is milignant is quite false. Don't get me wrong, the stories that I have heard from several decades prior warranted this banner but things have done a complete 180 since the reign of our current Chief of Surgery, Dr. Kirby Bland began. However, don't expect to do well here if you are not willing to work hard, as you will be surrounded by highly motivated people. Dr. Bland is a tremendous human being, respected and reveared by all in every academic setting, and is VERY enthusiastic about surgery and VERY approachable. He authored the definitive text on Breast Surgery and is the current chief editor of the American Journal of Surgery. I knew he was well respected but had little idea as to the depth of this respect until doing an away rotation as well as attending the recebt ACS meeting in October. The best thing is that he will "go to bat" for you as a resident in order to help you achieve the fellowship of your desire and our residents have little trouble year after year obtaining competitive fellowships at tremendous academic centers throughout the country. Last year's chief class had three which pursued plastics (Mayo Rochester, Emory, Memphis), Trauma (UAB), Advanced Laporoscopic (Emory), and Cardiac (Utah). This years class has members pursuing Cardiac (Virginia), Vascular (UAB), Surg Onc, and Advanced Laporoscopic.

The faculty at UAB our respected leaders throughout the nation and continue to contribute to the growing fund of surgical knowledge each and every day. We have people who many consider definitive experts in their respective surgical fields and I find it very humbling to be surrounded by such great academicians/teachers/mentors each and every day. You will be trained by the best to become the best. Who could want more?

If research is your thing, then UAB is the place for you. Research is not a requirement of our program but in recent years, roughly half of each class takes off time from there clinical training in order to pursue either bench and/or clinical research endeavors. It seams as if every day, they are either breaking ground or just about to complete a new research megaplex on each and every block of the UAB campus. This place is a nationally recognized research powerhouse and ranks somewhere in the top 10-15 in NIH funding. If you have some odd obscure research interest such as scale patterning on the dorsal fin of zebra fish I am sure you can find the world's expert somewhere on our campus that would love to have you in their lab.

To summarize, UAB is a top tier surgery powerhouse. State of the art facilities, excellent resident camraderie, cutting edge research, tons of pathology, world renowned faculty. You could not find a better place to pursue your surgical training if you so choose to. If offered an interview here, I would jump at the chance to be a part of this insititution. If I had to think of negatives regarding this program (a real stretch to do) it would be that there is little to no book allowance and the surgery skills lab needs to be developed better (it was just recently built last year and continues to expand). Feel free to PM if you wish to know more about UAB.
 
Perhaps I can serve as the unofficial ambassador considering that I'll soon be obtaining my MD from this institution and will one day be your colleague (I am a surgery applicant this year as well).

I thought match was not until March.

Hobbs
 
Hobbs said:
Perhaps I can serve as the unofficial ambassador considering that I'll soon be obtaining my MD from this institution and will one day be your colleague (I am a surgery applicant this year as well).

I thought match was not until March.

Hobbs

My apologies, I see how this may have been misinterpreted. After all, I wrote it at midnight. By this comment I meant to communicate that I was also participating in this year's match. By definition, all those that pursue surgery will one day be colleagues. I in no way feel as if a spot is promised to me at my home institution and regret how this communication may have been misinterpreted. I have edited the original post to mirror my true intentions, to tell all who wish to know how great a place that UAB is to train. I very much am looking forward to seeing you guys on the interview trail.
 
you know, after I re read your post, it is probable I who misread. Your post was clear.

Been up all night, trauma, after trauma, after trauma, just chippy and looking for a fight. Sorry. I will go to bed now. 🙂 Please ignore me.

Hobbs.
 
I am a 4th year medical student at UAB and I agree with everything already said about the great surgery program here.

First of all, a disclaimer: I am not applying for a surgery residency. That having been said, I seriously considered surgery and over the past couple of years I have had extensive interaction with a wide variety of surgical faculty at UAB through rotations/research/shadowing.

If you want a look at what UAB used to be, read the book THIS AIN'T ER. It is a book written by a UAB surgery resident and describes what the program was like 10 years ago. UAB used to be a VERY malignant but also VERY good program. Dr. Bland has made the residency much more humane but I also think that the program has lost some of what made it unique. However this is true for a lot of surgery programs. The book might scare you off or it might give you a better idea of the caliber of program UAB is.

The cardiothoracic surgeons here are fantastic. Dr. Pacifico has been described by many (both at UAB and in my interaction with attendings outside UAB) as the best technical heart surgeon in the country. I think what they meant was that he might not be the guy coming up with the newest procedures or writing the most papers but if you were a heart surgeon and you needed an operation, he'd be the guy you go to. Dr. Robert Cerfolio is the Thoracic surgeon and he does more thoracotomies than anyone else in the nation. I think he performs around 800-1000/year.

If Surg/Onc is your field then you'll find UAB to be great. Wide variety of cases. Dr. Selwyn Vickers does a tremendous amount of Whipples. The chair at Hopkins was down here at UAB last year and he couldn't say enough about the expertise of Dr. Vickers (trained at Hopkins).

Transplant surgery is strong. Lung transplants are not where they should be but kidney and liver transplant services are very strong. Heart transplant service could be better but it is still one of the stronger programs in the country.

UAB has a GREAT sugery program. I would rank it amongst the best in the country. You will work very hard. Birmingham is a tolerable if not tolerant city (I'll let others debate that one).
 
luckherm1 said:
Hey UT-Lilly:

I saw that you are from Austin. Do you know anything about Scott & White? I, too, am interviewing at UAB but I really don't know much about it other than the info on their website.

I'm from Dallas actually, but currently at med school in KC at KU. I went to UT-austin, thus the screen name. (Actually, it's my sister's screen name and she's an M1 @ UTSW!).

I don't know anything about S&W. Actually, I think it's a solid community program. That's all I know. Good luck!
 
Thank you both for the great descriptions and commentaries about UAB. I really appreciate it. I'll be interviewing there 12/15 (before I do Emory).
 
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