UCC vs. SJB

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Hi, I have recently been accepted into UCC and SJB SOM. I am really grateful for that.

I have three questions that I hope you would help me with.

1. I am weak on Spanish. Which school would offer better accommodation for students like me? For example, programs and/ or classes that help me with my Spanish? I know SJB is developing a program to help students who needs additional help for Spanish.

2. do both schools allow students to do the 4th year in the states?

3. which school is, as a whole, better?

4. Some people told me that UCC is better and its tuitions is $40k less that SJB for the 4 years. However, SJB allows students to finish their 4th years in the states, which would increase my chance of getting my residency. So is the $40k worth the greater chance of getting residency and greater accommodation in Spanish?

Any input will be appreciated.

Thanks,

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They both are low tier US schools... so if you pass step 1 and you are not antisocial, you will match somewhere... It might not be in derm, neurosurgery, ortho, urology etc... or top residency programs.. UCC is not cheaper than SJB according to the MSAR... I know that SJB let you do your 4th year in the state because I have a friend who is doing that right now... Not sure about UCC, but they should IMO. I heard SJB uses NBME exams, which people say is a plus, but I don't why it is...

Most people in the island would rank them like that: UPR>Ponce>UCC>SJB... FWIW, my friend who is doing his 4th year rotations in the state did pretty well in step 1&2 and had multiple interviews in surgery... I know another person who barely pass step 1 (191 when passing rate was 188) and he had more than 10 IM interviews... Med school is what you make of it.
 
Thank you for your input.

I know that UCC's out of tuition is $27k, SJB is $36k.

I also know that both UCC and SJB allow students to do their 4th year in the states.

I am currently leaning toward SJB because they have NBME exam every two weeks, which forces me to stay on my schedule.

I heard the SJB is developing a program to help state's student with their Spanish, can anyone shed some light on this program?

Thanks.
 
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That is weird, when I called the financial aid office, and they told me it is $27k for out of state students. Anyone can tell me about the Spanish program?
 
It's because of these occasional threads I finally broke down and brought this up in another thread:


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I know there's already a thread like this but it's from 5 years ago and there's a lot of arguing about legitimacy of PR schools and such... anyway I need to make a decision here, and I hope someone with knowledge about the PR schools can help me.

I am an OOS applicant, fluent Spanish speaker with 95% of my family living in PR (San Juan area). I was just accepted off the wait list at San Juan Bautista SOM, and I am currently wait listed at Universidad Central del Caribe. I am also wait listed at Ponce, but I didn't think the school was a good fit and I didn't like the location, so I will probably withdraw from the wait list soon.

UCC was originally my first choice, because it starts in August and will allow me to finish my master's program, which ends in July, whereas SJB starts at the end of June. Another reason is that SJB has had issues with accreditation, but I know that they've done a lot to avoid that in the future.

Basically I want to know if I should keep trying for the UCC acceptance (by sending a LOI and updates) or start planning for attendance at SJB. What are the pros and cons of each school? Thanks!
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This was my response to a very similar question:



A brief background on the three private schools in PR.

University of Puerto Rico being state subsidized is is bound to take Puerto Ricans only.

All three schools opened in quick succession at the end of the 70's.

Universidad Central del Caribe was first in 1976, followed a year after by Ponce School of Medicine in '77.

Ponce was initially the school of medicine of a private catholic college called Pontifica Universidad Catolica. Due to financial difficulties it could not continue past the third year and the local Ponce community spinned the school off as an independent entity and did fairly well on its own. Recently, Ponce has been bought up by a for profit outfit and became the first LCME accredited school (right after the LCME changed its laws to accommodate for-profits) to become a for-profit med school.

In 1978 San Juan Bautista launched.

Since their first graduating classes UCC and PSM had LCME accreditation, and for a couple of generations now their graduates have been entering ACGME residencies just like any school stateside.

SJB - which is not located in San Juan, btw - but in Caguas, had operated without having being able to attain LCME accreditation by virtue of Puerto Rico's "peculiar " political status ... for 30 YEARS.

The school was authorized to operate by the Puerto Rican Education Department, and their graduates were allowed to obtain a license to practice in the island (or the Federal VA, prison system, federal sites of need, etc) by passing a local medical examination board (for countless of years it was tacitly known by locals to have a questionable standard - definitively proven by a scandal in the late 2000's which let to its quasi final dissolution) as well as a one year internship which may or may not be accredited.

To enter the US education system it's graduates had to go through the ECFMG like any other FMG. The only medical school on "U.S." soil, to operate as a foreign school.

After 30 years or so, in 2007, 2008 or thereabouts it obtained LCME accreditation- and has been shaky ever since. Which is why, for locals who read these boards with students unaware of all of this, find it perplexing when mainlanders speak of SJB as being interchangeable with the other private schools which had somehow managed to maintain LCME standards for 30 years.

For Stateside students who are considering one of the 3 private schools for whatever reason know this:

Mainland U.S. who end up there tend to do really well academically compared to their peers.

Having some sort (marriage, employment, etc, or ethnic ties to Puerto Rico) is NOT mandatory- but does work on your favor. If you're already admitted this is a non issue,

You need to be bilingual in English and Spanish. At ALL 3 schools - period. Educational materials and many faculty do English, but the rest of your world (and patients) for 4 years - will only do the Puerto Rican version of Spanish.

All schools everywhere send their students on elective wherever they want in their 4th year.

In terms of quality, reliability, history and everything else the order has always been and still remains:

1) Ponce

2) UCC

3) SJB

By a wide margin.
 
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