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UCIrvine and UMiami Ranking

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by Aria111, Mar 29, 2002.

  1. Aria111

    Aria111 Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Both of these schools are unranked and considered "2nd tier" schools...any ideas about why? i visited both and was very impressed. Are they really that much worse than ranked schools like Wright State, or Wake Forest, or UMDNJ?
    What makes schools like Jefferson rank, while leaving Miami and Irvine unranked? Just wondering...
     
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  3. THE instiGATOR

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    Probably the quantity and quality of research being conducted at the institutions. It is a reasearch rank, after all.
     
  4. aria,
    that's a hot name. i like it.

    Where did you find this information and are we talking about the undergrad programs or the med school? excuse my ignorance.
     
  5. THE instiGATOR

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    I also have to add that a couple years back Miami and Wake Forest were tied for #50 on the US News research rank. So, if ranking is a big deal to you...I'd pick Miami over UC Irvine. I know nothing about Irvine, though. Maybe it's had a successful past. I suppose it only matters if you want to pursue an MD/PhD.

    Also, didn't you get into Emory? Why are you even worrying about UM and UC-I? If I only had an Emory acceptance...
     
  6. we're talking about the medschools nurse!

    UMiami has a LOT of research going on. i know the undergrad is pretty wellknown for research. it seems like that's all they do (to me). much of this research is done over at the medical campus. on top of that they have Great clinical. i don't know why UF is ranked higher. i'm fairly sure the first 2 years are better at UF, but the clinical has got to be far better at UM, and opportunities for research have got to be better as well. Yes UM was ranked in the past, but why aren't they ranked higher? i think because their average stats last year were like 3.66 gpa with 28.8 mcat. that's pretty low. i'd figure they could get better if they wanted to. maybe now that they're accepting more out-of-staters, their stock will rise. i know they're very respected by residency directors.

    anybody know if they're more respected than UF by res. dirs?
     
  7. THE instiGATOR

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    Um, UF has a TON of research being conducted. That's why it is high on the research poll, i'm sure.

    Maybe I shouldn't have cancelled my UM application. Perhaps I could have gone down to see what all the hype is about. It's only a short drive, after all.
     
  8. yeah i know UF gets TONS of dough to conduct their research. so i know that. but i Believe (don't take my word for it..i haven't checked and this is just my feeling) that UM has plenty of stuff going on too. although they Definitely don't get the NIH money that UF gets (i'm not sure about this, but i'm pretty sure).

    Bubba, if money hadn't been such a priority for you, you SHOULD have driven down to check it out. but don't cry over spilled beans...cuz you'll be paying 40% of what UM asks for medschool.
     
  9. THE instiGATOR

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    Hmmm... An interesting find:

    UM NIH grant awards: 72.2 million
    UF NIH grant awards: 44.9 million

    I don't know if the difference is covered by state funding. I think it probably is.

    Who knows what the deal is? Who cares? I don't have to worry about either school anymore. Hell, the school I'm attending doesn't even provide US News with any info! :D
     
  10. so i keep wondering why UF is considered a better school than UM (other than the money issue). don't get me wrong, my gut feeling from having seen both places is that UF is better. but reputation wise (res dirs only) which one is best in state?
     
  11. Papa Smurf

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    Caveman, it's pretty simple. UF is considered better than UM because they have a monopoly on the top Florida residents. UM can't compete because of the cost. If UM cost $12K/yr in tuition, I can guarantee you that UF would lose a lot of their students to UM. But since cost is a big factor for a lot of people, not too many are gonna shell out an extra $100K to go to UM even if their clinical experience is superior to UF's.
     
  12. Aria111

    Aria111 Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    this whole ordeal seems so random. I've visited ranked schools (ie NYMC) and unranked schools, and they all have their pros and cons- but none seem a ton better than any of the others. i guess it's pretty silly to be concerned about ranking, but it frustrates me that schools that i find awesome are not even mentioned in the top 50...weird. Like why would UC Davis be ranked really well, while UC Irvine not ranked at all? a mystery.
     
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    I'm not willing to chalk it up to research alone. Irvine is, after all, an MSTP funded school. Something else is amiss.
     
  14. Papa Smurf

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    Dude, you're looking at primary care rankings, not research rankings!! Wright State is not a top 50, neither is NYMC. And UC Davis certainly isn't ranked #17 overall in the research rankings. If you're interested in primary care, UMiami probably isn't the best fit for you. You're an out of stater right? Not too many of them get into UM, but I'd go to Emory if I were you.
     
  15. does it have anything to do with tuition at UCIrvine?

    because Papa is right. many Florida students go to UF rather than UM because the money is right and the clinical and city life doesn't make UM THAT much more attractive (i assume UF is 120K which is 80K cheaper than UM and gainesville is a cool little party town anyway). but, Papa, although i also considered that their monopoly over Florida puts them at the top of many students minds, how does that make them higher in the ranks? i'd say because they have higher average GPAs and MCATs and better yields, etc i guess. but i don't think that stuff is good enough to take them from wherever UM is all the way to number 40 on the research rank list.
     
  16. matthew0126

    matthew0126 Anaheim Angels 7+ Year Member

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    if you liked uci and miami so much, why don't you just go with that gut instinct instead of rankings?

    i wouldn't be surprised to see uci in the top50 in 10 years. that school is on the rise

    btw, nymc isn't ranked... sorry, i know i'm gonna get flamed, but nymc and chicago med are always talked about as the 2 worst med schools in the country. then again, i didn't apply to either, that's just hearsay, and we all know how much hearsay is worth, right?
     
  17. Jalby

    Jalby I fight crime at day when Batman are sleeping. 10+ Year Member

    One major problem with Usnew's primary care ranking is that one of the main fctors is the percentage of students who go in to a clinal residency. I don't know what that has to do with training good clinicians, but I think that list is just crap.
     
  18. Papa Smurf

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    For those who are interested, this is how USNEWS comes up with its rankings. They have a research ranking and a primary care ranking. When you say top 20, it's understood that you're talking about a top 20 school in the research rankings.

    Reputation (weighted by .40): Two kinds of surveys were conducted in the fall of 2000. Medical school deans and senior faculty were asked to rate program quality on a scale of "marginal" (1) to "distinguished" (5). Both research and primary-care school populations were surveyed. A research school's average score is weighted .20; the average score in the primary-care model is weighted .25. In the second type of survey, sent to residency program directors, respondents were asked to select up to 25 top schools. Their opinions are weighted .20 in the research model and .15 in primary-care.

    Research activity (.30 in research model only): measured as the total dollar amount of National Institutes of Health research grants awarded to the medical school and its affiliated hospitals, averaged for 1999 and 2000. Schools that reported only grants to their medical school carry an asterisk.

    Primary-care rate (.30 in primary-care model only): the percentage of M.D.'s entering primary-care residencies, averaged over 1998, 1999, and 2000.

    Student selectivity (.20 in research model, .15 in primary-care model): three components, which describe the class entering in fall 2000: mean composite Medical College Admission Test score (65 percent ), mean undergraduate grade-point average (30 percent), and proportion of applicants accepted (5 percent).

    Faculty resources (.10 in research model, .15 in primary-care model): This indicator is the ratio of full-time science and clinical faculty to full-time students in 2000.

    Overall rank: The research activity and faculty-resources indicators had significant outliers; to avoid distortion, they were transformed using a logarithmic function. Indicators were standardized about their means, and standardized scores were weighted, totaled, and rescaled so that the top school received 100; other schools received their percentage of the top score.

    So you see Caveman, UF has UM beat in student selectivity and probably also in the all important reputation category. Those two seem to more than offset any difference in NIH funds, which UM seems to receive more of.
     
  19. so you think UF got rated better on reputation (which includes residency directors's opinions?) that's what i've been trying to get at. my question is why? while i think the first 2 years are better, what makes the overall school get more points.

    but i see that the student selectivity clearly puts UF ahead (but it should be known that this is related to money, so why should this rank put UF ahead of UM in res. dirs. minds? because i assume it does.

    BUT actually, this would all be solved if Foxy would just log on and give us some of those choice res. matches and percentages that we're looking for, since we have an idea about UM's courtesy of el pitufo
     
  20. Doctora Foxy

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by A. Caveman:
    <strong>BUT actually, this would all be solved if Foxy would just log on and give us some of those choice res. matches and percentages that we're looking for, since we have an idea about UM's courtesy of el pitufo</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ask and ye shall receive..

    <a href="http://www.mededu.miami.edu/MedEd/divisionsFolder/student_affairs/residency_search" target="_blank">UM Match Lists 1996-2001</a>

    Here is UM 2001 and please notice those 4 lovely derm placements:

    Adhikari,Soumya 2001 University of Texas Southwestern, Dallas, TX Pediatrics
    Albert,Jonathan 2001 Georgetown University Hospital, Washington, DC Med/Pediatrics
    Andrews,Aaron 2001 University of South Florida, Tampa, FL Radiology
    Baines,Julie 2001 East Carolina University, Greenville, NC Pediatrics
    Baines,Torrey 2001 East Carolina University, Greenville, NC Med/Pediatrics
    Barone,Stephen 2001 Mt. Sinai Medical Center, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Barone,Stephen 2001 NYP-Cornell, New York, NY Anesthesiology
    Beecham,Anita 2001 Einstein/Montefiore, Bronx, NY Family Practice
    Bermann Wancier, Romina 2001 NYP-Cornell, New York, NY Pediatrics
    Bernabe,Kathryn 2001 Alton Ochsner,FDN, LA Surgery
    Booth,Christine 2001 National Capital, Washington, DC Ob/Gyn
    Bragg,Bradley 2001 University of Florida Health Science Center, Jacksonville, Florida Emergency Medicine
    Buchwald,Jason 2001 Beth Israel Medical Center, New York, NY Emergency Medicine
    Bui,Alex 2001 University of Hawaii, Hawaii Internal Med.(Pre)
    Bui,Alex 2001 New York University Medical Center, NY,NY Ophthalmology
    Calonge,Ricardo 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Capote-Dishaw,Jessica 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Pediatrics
    Case,Cheryl 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Castellon,Ivan 2001 Mt. Sinai SOM/Cabrini Medical Center, New York, NY Internal Med.(Pre)
    Cepeda,Chris 2001 University of Texas Medical School, Houston, Tx Radiology
    Chin-Lenn,Mark 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Family Practice
    Cohen,Scott 2001 Duke Univ. Med. Center, Durham, NC Internal Medicine
    Collins,Kristie 2001 Orlando Regional Healthcare Systems, Orlando, FL Pediatrics
    Corona,Abelardo 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Danger, Carlos 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Psychiatry
    Dhalla,Mandeep 2001 Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, MI Ophthalmology
    Diaz,Miguel 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Emerson,Peter 2001 Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Internal Medicine
    Emko,Joy 2001 University of Texas Health Science, San Antonio, TX Family Practice
    Erdmann,Ernesto 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Pediatrics
    Estes,Christopher 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Ob/Gyn
    Evans,James 2001 Georgetown University Hospital, Washington, DC Internal Med.(Pre)
    Fakiris,Achilles 2001 Yale New Haven Hospital, New Haven, CT Internal Med.(Pre)
    Fakiris,Achilles 2001 Indiana University School of Medicine, IN Radiology
    Ferrari,Michelle 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Surgery (Pre)
    Ferrari,Michelle 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, Florida Nuclear Medicine
    Frank,Daniel 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Family Practice
    Frankel,Stacy 2001 Massachusettes General Hosp. Boston, MA Internal Med.(Pre)
    Frankel,Stacy 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Dermatology
    Freiman,Jacob 2001 North Shore University Hospital, Manhasset, NY Surgery
    Friedlander,Adam 2001 University of Colorado SOM, Denver, CO Internal Medicine
    Garg,Ruchi 2001 Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore, MD Ob/Gyn
    Garin,Laflan 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Pediatrics
    Glover,Lesley 2001 Memorial Health University, GA Family Practice
    Goldenholz,Iris 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Pediatrics
    Goldman,Jennifer 2001 St. Luke's Roosevelt Hospital, New York, NY Internal Medicine
    Grande,Federico 2001 Jackson Memoral Hospital, Miami, FL Oral & Maxillofacial
    Grasman,Brad 2001 University of Tennessee SOM, Knoxville, TN Internal Medicine
    Grio,Maricor 2001 Orlando Regional Healthcare Systems, Orlando, FL Pediatrics
    Gutsche,Jacob 2001 Lankenau Hospital, PA Internal Med.(Pre)
    Gutsche,Jacob 2001 Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, PA Anesthesiology
    Ham,Michael 2001 Brown University, Providence, RI Internal Medicine
    Harrison,Joshua 2001 Naval Medical, Portsmouth, VA Internal Medicine
    Heffernan,Thomas 2001 Akron General Medicine/Neoucom, OH Ob/Gyn
    Hernandez,Manuel 2001 Mt. Sinai Medical Center, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Hernandez,Manuel 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Radiology
    Hertzberg,Rachel 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Hertzberg,Rachel 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Radiology
    Hobbs,Charlotte 2001 LSU School of Medicine, New Orleans, LA Pediatrics
    Holmes,Kelley 2001 University of Tennessee SOM, Knoxville,TN Ob/Gyn
    Hull,Amanda 2001 Albert Einstein Medical Center, PA Pediatrics
    Hung,Diana 2001 Washington Hospital Ctr, Washington, DC Internal Med.(Pre)
    Hung,Diana 2001 George Washington University, Washington, DC Radiology
    Khator,Pooja 2001 University of Florida-Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Khator,Pooja 2001 Friedenwald/Maryland General, MD Ophthalmology
    Kirmse,Brian 2001 LSU School of Medicine, New Orleans, LA Pediatrics
    Koppleman,Rachel 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Lane,Jason 2001 David Grant Medical Center, Travis AFB, CA Internal Medicine
    Latchaw,Gregory 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Ob/Gyn
    Lau,Amy 2001 Einstein/Montefiore,Bronx, NY Internal Medicine
    Lawson,Scott 2001 Jackson Memoral Hospital, Miami, FL Oral & Maxillofacial
    Levy,Yvette 2001 Orlando Reg. Healthcare Sys, Orlando, FL Internal Medicine
    Li,Wei 2001 University of Chicago Hospital, Chicago, Il Anesthesiology
    Ligeon,John 2001 Orlando Reg. Healthcare Sys, Orlando, FL Internal Medicine
    Lloyd-Blake,Rashida 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Ob/Gyn
    Long,Jennifer Beth 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Pediatrics
    Long,Rachel 2001 Wake Forest - Baptist Med. Ctr. Winston-Salem, NC Internal Med.(Pre)
    Long,Rachel 2001 Wake Forest University, Baptist Med.Ctr. Winston-Salem, NC Dermatology
    Lopez,Tara 2001 University of Massachusetts Medical School, Boston, MA Emergency Medicine
    Maach,Mourad 2001 University of Louisville School of Medicine, Louisville, KY Surgery
    Malik Khan,Zaiba 2001 Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, MI Ophthalmology
    Marin,Jennifer 2001 Children's Memorial Hospital, IL Pediatrics
    Marinari,Jennifer 2001 Summa Health/Neoucom,OH Family Practice
    Markham,Merry-Jennifer 2001 University of Florida -Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL Internal Medicine
    Martinez,Vanessa 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Psychiatry
    Martinez-Angel,Rocio 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Pediatrics
    McDonough, Richard 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Meadows,Natasha 2001 Orlando Regional Healthcare System, Orlando, FL Med/Pediatrics
    Medina,Jocelyn 2001 Mt. Sinai Medical Center, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Medina,Jocelyn 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Radiology
    Meinbach,David 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Urology
    Nam,Jae 2001 Emory University School of Medicine, GA Internal Medicine
    Nathan,Sandra 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Neurology
    Netzel,Tisha 2001 University of Florida-Shands, Gainesville, FL Pathology
    Oberstein,Elana 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Otero,Luis 2001 MacNeal Hospital, Chicago, IL Family Practice
    Oza,Saumil 2001 University of Illinois COM, Chicago, IL Internal Medicine
    Pacheco,Mercedes 2001 Rhode Island Hospital, Brown University, Providence, RI Internal Med.(Pre)
    Pang, Alex 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Pang,Alex 2001 NYP Hospital - Columbia Prresby, New York, NY Anesthesiology
    Papangelou,Alex 2001 University of Maryland Medical Center, Baltimore, MD Neurology
    Pappas,Peter 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Surgery
    Paredes,Brett 2001 Jackson Memoral Hospital, Miami, FL Oral & Maxillofacial
    Patel,Sunita 2001 Allegheny General Hospital Internal Med.(Pre)
    Patel,Sunita 2001 Allegheny General Hospital, PA Radiology
    Perez,Raiza 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Phillips,Laura 2001 Mt. Sinai Medical Center, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Phillips,Laura 2001 Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA Radiology
    Pickett,Anthony 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Pediatrics
    Pilicaro,Franco 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, Florida Nuclear Medicine
    Policaro,Franco 2001 Riverside Methodist, OH Internal Med.(Pre)
    Purdom,Chad 2001 University of Florida, Gainesville, FL Surgery (Pre)
    Purdom,Chad 2001 University of Florida-Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL Anesthesiology
    Quimby,David 2001 University of Illinois, COM, Chicago, IL Internal Medicine
    Reddy,Sanjay 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Oral & Maxillofacial
    Reynolds,Kathryn 2001 Greenwich Hospital, Greenwich, CT Internal Medicine
    Rich,Mark 2001 Summa Health/Neoucom,Oh Ob/Gyn
    Robben,Christopher 2001 Orlando Regional Healthcare Sys, Orlando, FL Emergency Medicine
    Robbins,Alison 2001 Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, PA Internal Medicine
    Robbins,Bryan 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Robbins,Bryan 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Anesthesiology
    Rodriguez, Frank 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Roscoe,Jill 2001 University of Florida-Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL Ob/Gyn
    Ruiz,Jose 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Otolaryngology
    Sachdev,Sheila 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Santos,Louise 2001 UPMC, St. Margaret, PA Family Practice
    Schneider,Gregory 2001 MCP Hahnemann University Hospital, PA Emergency Medicine
    Scott,Duncan 2001 University of Alabama Hospital, Birmingham, AL Internal Medicine
    Segal,Zachary 2001 Mt. Sinai SOM/Cabrini Medical Center, New York, NY Internal Med.(Pre)
    Segal,Zachary 2001 Washington Hospital Center, Washington, DC Ophthalmology
    Semmel,Dana 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Surgery (Pre)
    Semmel,Dana 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Anesthesiology
    Serralta,Victoria 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Serralta,Victoria 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Dermatology
    Sevald,Jason 2001 Emory University School of Medicine, GA Emergency Medicine
    Slonin,Jonathan 2001 University of Florida HSC, Jacksonville, FL Surgery (Pre)
    Slonin,Jonathan 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Anesthesiology
    Smith,Jennifer 2001 Long Island Jewish, Long Island, NY Psychiatry
    Sonntag,Markus 2001 Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX Internal Medicine
    Spear, William 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Speigel,Justin 2001 St. Luke's Roosevelt Hospital, New York, NY Internal Medicine
    Spiegel,Jennifer 2001 Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX Pathology
    Steele,Wen 2001 Earl K. Long Medical Center, New Ha Emergency Medicine
    Sun,Bob 2001 University of Texas Medical School, Houston, TX Internal Medicine
    Tantama,Stephen 2001 National Naval Bas, Bethesda, MD Internal Medicine
    The, Angeline 2001 Universtiy of North Carolina Hospital, Chapel Hill, NC Internal Medicine
    Thompson, Tracy 2001 Franklin Square Hospital, MD Family Practice
    Thomsen,Kimberly 2001 Greenwich Hospital, Greenwich, CT Internal Medicine
    Tocci,Eric 2001 University of Florida HSC, Jacksonville, FL Radiology
    Tolaymat,Shadi 2001 University of Texas Health Science, San Antonio, TX Internal Medicine
    Treese,Ted 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Psychiatry
    Trent,Jennifer 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Med.(Pre)
    Trent,Jennifer 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Dermatology
    Trivedi,Bhavya 2001 Duke University Medical Center, Durham, NC Pediatrics
    Urbina,Claire 2001 University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA Emergency Medicine
    Wang,May 2001 Oregon Health Sciences University, Portland, OR Family Practice
    Warner,Cynthia 2001 Yale-New Haven Hospital, New Haven, CT Internal Medicine
    Wilcox,Sam 2001 Western Pennsylvania Hospital,Pittsburgh,PA Ob/Gyn
    Wrennick,Amy 2001 University of Texas Medical School, Houston, TX Ob/Gyn
    Yeckes,Heather 2001 Harvard Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, MA Internal Medicine
    Yu,Jane 2001 Tufts University, Boston, MA Family Practice
    Yu,Samuel 2001 Indiana University School of Medicine, IN Radiology
    Zacur,Sharline 2001 Medical College of Virginia, VA Surgery
    Zelnick,Lisa 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Internal Medicine
    Zuniga,Sylvia 2001 Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL Neurology

    And <a href="http://www.med.ufl.edu/oea/osa/match02.html" target="_blank">here are UF's 2002 Match Results </a> :

    Anis Ahmadi
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Internal Medicine C

    Oladapo Alade
    Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami FL
    Orthopaedic Surgery C

    Kiyetta Anderson
    Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami FL
    Pediatrics C

    Andrew Aronsohn
    University of Chicago Hosp, Chicago IL
    Internal Medicine C

    Nikorn Arunakul
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Jennifer Auer
    Children's Hospital, Philadelphia PA
    Pediatrics C

    Jeremy Baker
    Duke University Med Ctr, Durham NC
    Pediatrics C

    Leng Bang
    Baylor College of Medicine, Houston TX
    Psychiatry C

    Nahum Beard
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Family Practice C

    Maggie Bertisch
    St. Vincent's Hospital, New York NY
    Psychiatry C

    Alireza Bozorgmanesh
    Orlando Regional Healthcare, Orlando FL
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Internal Medicine C
    Diagnostic Radiology '03

    Viet Bui
    Ochsner Medical Center, New Orleans LA
    Louisiana State U Eye Ctr, New Orleans LA
    Surgery-Preliminary P Ophthalmology '03

    Mincselie Calixte
    Westchester Medical Center, Valhalla NY
    Internal Medicine C

    Rohana Calnaido
    Duke University Medical Ctr, Durham NC
    Psychiatry C

    Eric Castaldo
    Vanderbilt U Medical Ctr, Nashville TN
    General Surgery C

    Prasanna Challa
    Indiana U School of Med, Indianapolis IN
    Internal Medicine C

    Chien Chen
    U of Pennsylvania Hosp, Philadelphia PA
    Pathology C

    Wayne Cheng
    Medical College of Virginia, Richmond VA
    Internal Medicine C

    Sara Connolly
    Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami FL
    Pediatrics C

    Jeffrey Cottrell
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL

    Surgery-Preliminary P
    Diagnostic Radiology '03

    Christina Covelli
    U of Alabama Hosp, Birmingham AL
    Internal Medicine C

    Mary DeSena
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Family Practice C

    Sharon Desmarais
    Orlando Regional Healthcare, Orlando FL
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Donald Downer
    Carillion Health System, Roanoke VA
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Transitional P
    Ophthalmology '03

    John Downs
    Medical College of VA, Richmond VA
    Internal Medicine C

    Virginia Duncan
    U of Alabama Hosp, Birmingham AL
    Pediatrics C

    Trudi Fahey
    U of Texas Medical School, Houston TX
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Elizabeth Fajer
    Tallahassee Memorial, Tallahassee FL
    Family Practice C

    Tracie Farmer
    U of NC Hospital, Chapel Hill NC
    Internal Medicine C

    Jonathan Feistmann
    UF Health Science Center, Jacksoville FL
    Medicine-Preliminary P

    William Fenster
    Sabbatical


    Deidre Fish
    Vanderbilt U Medical Ctr, Nashville TN
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Stephanie Flaherty
    UC Davis Medical Center, Sacramento CA
    Pediatrics C

    Paul Gallogly
    Mt. Sinai Medical Center, Miami FL
    U of Miami Bascom Palmer Eye Inst, Miami FL
    Medicine-Preliminary P
    Ophthalmology '03

    John Gianini
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Surgery-Preliminary P

    Jennifer Goldman-Moss
    Columbia Presbyterian Hosp, New York NY
    Internal Medicine C

    Gary Gomez
    Orlando Regional Medical Ctr, Orlando FL
    Surgery

    Kelsey Hamilton
    Vanderbilt U Medical Ctr, Nashville TN
    Pediatrics C

    Peggy Hamzeh
    Baylor College of Medicine, Houston TX
    General Surgery C

    Jeremy Handel
    Newton-Wellesley, Newton Lower Falls MA
    Monmouth Medical Ctr, Long Branch NJ
    Medicine-Preliminary P
    Diagnostic Radiology '03

    Alison Hartemink
    Lancaster General Hospital, Lancaster PA
    Family Practice C

    Jorge Hernandez
    Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami FL
    Pediatrics C

    Robyn Hoelle
    MCP Hahnemann U Hosp, Philadelphia PA
    Emergency Medicine C

    Leslie Hurt
    U of Colorado School of Medicine, Denver
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Radha Iyengar
    U of TX SW Medical School, Dallas TX
    General Surgery C

    Nina Jain
    Medical College of Virginia, Richmond VA
    Pediatrics C

    Timothy Jones
    Vanderbilt U Medical Ctr, Nashville TN
    Internal Medicine C

    Deepa Kamath
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Family Practice C

    Ali Kasraeian
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Urology C

    Maria Kelly
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Pediatrics C

    Kristina Kotseos
    McGraw Med Ctr of NW U, Chicago IL
    Plastic Surgery C

    Liborio LaRussa
    Children's Hospital, Philadelphia PA
    Pediatrics C

    Jennifer Laiacona
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Pediatrics C

    Elise Lavery
    Emory U College of Medicine, Atlanta GA
    Pediatrics C

    Huong Le
    Western Community Hosp, Pittsburgh PA
    St. Luke's/Roosevelt Hosp Ctr, New York NY
    Surgery-Preliminary P
    Anesthesiology '03

    Ashley Lentz
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Surgery

    Shin Lin
    Einstein/Montefiroe Med Ctr, New York NY
    Internal Medicine C

    Paige Lindberg
    Tulane University, New Orleans LA
    Surgery-Preliminary P
    Otolaryngology '03

    Shannon MacLaughlan
    Greenville Hosp System, Greenville SC
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Kristy Magee
    Florida Hospital, Orlando FL
    Family Practice C

    Edward Magee
    Florida Hospital, Orlando FL
    Family Practice C

    Melissa Margo
    U of MD Medical Ctr, Baltimore MD
    Internal Medicine C

    Raul Mederos
    Mt. Sinai Medical Center, Miami FL
    General Surgery C

    Jeremy Mirabile
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Family Practice C

    Esther Morrison
    U of Alabama Hospital, Birmingham AL
    Internal Medicine C

    Megan Mrstik
    Eastern VA Medical School, Norfolk VA
    University of VA, Charlottesville VA
    Medicine-Preliminary P
    Dermatology '03

    Christopher Myers
    U of NC Hospital, Chapel Hill NC
    Psychiatry

    Suhaila Nawabi
    Sabbatical


    Jennifer Neufeld
    Lenox Hill Hospital, New York Ny
    Internal Medicine C

    Robert Neumann
    Barnes/Jewish Hospital, St. Louis MO
    General Surgery C

    Shannon Neville
    U of NC Hospital, Chapel Hill NC
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Jennifer Overman
    U of Utah Affil. Hosp, Salt Lake City UT
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Effie Pappas
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    St. Vincent's Hospital, New York NY
    Surgery-Preliminary P
    Diagnostic Radiology '03

    Suzanne Parsons
    Lancaster General Hospital, Lancaster PA
    Family Practice C

    Ravi Patel
    Mercy Hospital, Pittsburgh PA
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville Fl
    Transitional P
    Ophthalmology '03

    Abhitabh Patil
    U of TX SW Medical School, Dallas TX
    Internal Medicine C

    Nathan Pennell
    Brigham & Women's Hospital, Boston MA
    Internal Medicine C

    Huberto Perez
    Tallahassee Memorial, Tallahassee FL
    M.L. King/Drew Med Ctr, Los Angeles CA
    Family Practice C
    Ophthalmology '03

    Gregory Pollack
    U of Utah Affil. Hosp, Salt Lake City UT
    Internal Medicine C

    Matthew Price
    Valley Medical Center, Renton VA
    Family Practice C

    Lantie Quinones
    Orlando Regional Healthcare, Orlando FL
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    James Reeves
    Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami FL
    Orthopaedic Surgery C

    Georgette Rodriguez
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Surgery-Preliminary P

    Dikea Roussos
    Orlando Regional Healthcare, Orlando FL
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Cherise Russell
    Westchester Medical Center, Valhalla NY
    Pediatrics C

    Karim Samara
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Internal Medicine C

    Gordon Schoenfeld
    U of TX Medical School, Houston TX
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Medicine-Preliminary P
    Radiation Oncology '03

    Jason Shinn
    U of TX SW Medical School, Dallas TX
    Orthopaedic Surgery C

    Alex Sleeker
    Louis Weiss Hosp/U Chicago, Chicago IL
    McGaw Medical Cener/NW U, Chicago IL
    Transitional P
    Diagnostic Radiology

    John-Stewart Smith
    Tallahassee Memorial Hos, Tallahassee FL
    Family Practice C

    Rhonda Stahl
    U of NC Hospital, Chapel Hill NC
    Psychiatry

    Gregory Stringfellow
    Tucson Hospital, Tucson AZ
    St. Joseph's Hospital, Phoenix AZ
    Transitional P
    Diagnostic Radiology '03

    William Thoman
    Ohio State U Med Ctr, Columbus OH

    Surgery-Preliminary P
    Neurosurgery '03

    Mini Thomas
    St. Vincent's Hospital, New York NY
    Internal Medicine C

    Alexis Touchton
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Psychiatry C

    Angelina Valladares
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Pediatrics C

    Tamara Vega
    UF Health Science Ctr, Jacksonville FL
    Emergency Medicine C

    Ayanna Walden
    Cedars-Sinai Medical Ctr, Los Angeles CA
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    Scott Wenk
    UF College of Dentistry, Gainesville FL
    Oral Surgery

    Jeanette West
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Family Practice C

    Jason Westin
    U of NC Hospital, Chapel Hill NC
    Internal Medicine C

    Julie Wolfson
    Massachusetts General Hosp, Boston MA
    Pediatrics C

    Jessica Wong
    U of Chicago Hospital, Chicago IL
    Obstetrics-Gynecology C

    James Wynn
    UF College of Medicine, Gainesville FL
    Pediatrics C

    Mori Yunghans
    U of Michigan Hospitals, Ann Arbor MI
    Pediatrics

    Megan Yunghans
    U of Michigan Hospitals, Ann Arbor MI
    Pediatrics

    Michael Zawaneh
    University Hospitals, Cleveland OH
    Internal Medicine C


    PGY 1 Programs

    Emergency Medicine - 2
    Family Practice - 13
    Medicine, Categorical - 22
    Medicine, Preliminary - 5
    Obstetrics/Gynecology - 12
    Oral Surgery - 1
    Orthopaedics - 3
    Pathology - 1
    Pediatrics - 19
    Plastic Surgery - 1
    Psychiatry - 6
    Sabbatical Year - 2
    Surgery, Categorical - 1
    Surgery, General - 6
    Surgery, Preliminary - 8
    Transitional - 4
    Urology - 1

    Total Graduates 107
     
  21. simpleton

    simpleton Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Dr. foxy, thanks for uncovering and posting those match results. I thought I should represent USF's 2002 Match Results to give you guys a more objective thread even though the OP never asked :) Isn't it funny how some threads get turned into a UF vs. 'insert med school' type discussion. Why not get USF involved considering that's where I'll be matriculating and I'm sure you guys are curious. I guess us Florida people take pride in our schools! <a href="http://www.med.usf.edu/SC/common/docs/Match_2002.pdf" target="_blank">Click on me if you'd rather read in PDF format</a>

    Karen M. Ackley Pediatrics, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Alex N. Anton Pediatrics, University of Florida/Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL
    Jennifer C. Bala Internal Medicine, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA
    Magdalena J. Banasiak Neurological Surgery, University of South Florida College of Medicine Luis F. Barroso Internal Medicine, University of Virginia Medical Center, Charlottesville, VA
    Yaser S. Bassel Urology, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA
    Celeste M. Bello Internal Medicine, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Timothy P. Boyett Obstetrics/Gynecology, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville, TN
    Javier I. Cartaya Psychiatry, University of Florida/Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL
    Dominic M. Castellano Surgery-Preliminary, Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA
    Otolaryngology, Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA
    Christopher M. Chambers General Surgery, Barnes-Jewish Hospital, St. Louis, MO
    Annette V. Chang Medicine-Preliminary, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Ophthalmology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Merlene V. Christopher Family Practice, Naval Hospital, Bremerton, WA
    Jonathan B. Cohen Anesthesiology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Justin T. Conley Pediatrics, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    A. Mittsu Crossman Psychiatry, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY
    Kristina P. Cusmano-Ozog Pediatrics, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Nehal S. Dassani Internal Medicine, University of Florida/Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL
    Leigh E. Davy Psychiatry, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Matthew J. DeOrio Orthopaedic Surgery, Mayo Graduate School of Medicine, Rochester, MN
    Denis M. Diaz Pediatrics, Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
    Daron G. Diecidue Family Practice, Bayfront Medical Center, St. Petersburg, FL
    Kirk P. Dockendorf Anesthesiology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Erin M. Dolan Psychiatry, Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, OH
    Rebecca J. Eick Pediatrics, Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
    Jason A. Evangelista Transitional, Carilion Health System, Roanoke, VA
    Ophthalmology, University of South Carolina School of Medicine, Columbia, SC
    Jodi L. Falkner Anesthesiology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    John L. Felix Orthopaedic Surgery, Louisiana State University School of Medicine, New Orleans, LA
    Christopher C. Findley Anesthesiology, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville, TN
    Brian C. Fordham Anesthesiology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Dina Frangoul Family Practice, Palmetto Richland Memorial Hospital, Columbia, SC
    Adam M. Garrott Radiology-Diagnostic, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Lara D. Gilbert Transitional, University of Tennessee College of Medicine, Chattanooga, TN
    Christopher P. Goscin Medicine-Preliminary, Carilion Health System, Roanoke, VA
    Radiology-Diagnostic, Louisiana State University School of Medicine, New Orleans, LA
    Jeffrey R. Greene Family Practice, Moses H. Cone Memorial Hospital, Greensboro, NC
    Laura M. Gruen Internal Medicine, Wake Forest University Baptist Medial Center, Winston-Salem, NC
    Amanda L. Guest Clinical Research, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    M. Clarissa Hererra Pathology, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA
    David C. Hood Surgery-Preliminary, University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, San Antonio, TX
    Otolaryngology, University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, San Antonio, TX
    Jack W. Jennings Medicine-Preliminary, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Radiology-Diagnostic, Barnes-Jewish Hospital, St. Louis, MO
    Hong S. Jeong Internal Medicine, Medical College of Virginia, Richmond, VA
    Jennifer L. Johnson Internal Medicine, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Kristen D. Johnson Otolaryngology, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA
    Kristin J. Johnson Internal Medicine, University of Florida Health Sciences Center-Jacksonville, Jacksonville, FL
    Lara W. Katzin Medicine-Preliminary, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Neurology, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
    Joseph J. Kavanagh Radiology-Diagnostic, Medical University of South Carolina, Charleston, SC
    Rosemary M. Keene Pediatrics, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Daina P. Kennedy Obstetrics/Gynecology, University of Florida/Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL
    Alicia Kerstyn Internal Medicine, Duke University Medial Center, Durham, NC
    Mary E. Lowrey Psychiatry, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Kamal Massis Transitional, Mayo Graduate School of Medicine, Jacksonville, FL
    Radiology-Diagnostic, Mayo Graduate School of Medicine, Jacksonville, FL
    Brandi L. McClain-Carter Emergency Medicine, Palmetto Richland Memorial Hospital, Columbia, SC
    W. Matthew McDowell Medicine-Preliminary, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Ophthalmology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Susan R. McFarland Pediatrics, Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore, MD
    J. Laird McMullen Radiology-Diagnostic, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Jason T. Mensch Medicine-Preliminary, University of Kansas School of Medicine, Kansas City, KS
    Anesthesiology, University of Kansas School of Medicine, Kansas City, KS
    Ryan T. Mott Pathology, Duke University Medical Center, Durham, NC
    Nicole L. Nemeth Plastic Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch-Galveston, Galveston, TX
    Stephen C. Nemeth Medicine-Preliminary, Carilion Health System, Roanoke, VA
    Anesthesiology, University of California Los Angeles Medical Center, Los Angeles, CA
    C. Gregory Nesmith Internal Medicine, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA
    William W. Nields General Surgery, Mayo Graduate School of Medicine, Jacksonville, FL
    Erik C. Nilssen Orthopaedic Surgery, McGill University, Montreal, Quebec Canada
    Alexander Paloma Anesthesiology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Khatija N. Paperwalla Psychiatry, Long Island Jewish Medical Center, New Hyde Park, NY
    Richard H. Partin Internal Medicine, University of Virginia (Roanoke-Salem) Program, Roanoke, VA
    Amar S. Patel Medicine-Preliminary, University of Florida Health Sciences Center-Jacksonville, Jacksonville, FL
    Radiology-Diagnostic, University of Florida Health Sciences Center-Jacksonville, Jacksonville, FL
    Neil A. Patil Transitional, Christiana Care Health System, Wilmington, DE
    Radiology-Diagnostic, UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, New Brunswick, NJ
    Suzette W. Peng Internal Medicine, Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Washington, DC
    Dana E. Perrin Family Practice, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Gregory M. Pontone Psychiatry, Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore, MD
    Gilbert A. Postler Internal Medicine, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Scott A. Powell Otolaryngology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Alexander K. Powers Orthopaedic Surgery, Carolinas Medical Center, Charlotte, NC
    Paul C. Prator Emergency Medicine, University of Texas Medical School-Houston, Houston, TX
    Javier F. Quintana Pediatrics, Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL
    Sowsan H. Rasheid General Surgery, Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, GA
    Sandhini Ray Family Practice, Phoebe Putney Memorial Hospital, Albany, GA
    Maria J. Razon Internal Medicine, St. Luke?s-Roosevelt Hospital Center, New York, NY
    Buffie M. Reid Internal Medicine, Medical College of Virginia, Richmond, VA
    Hanna Q. Rhee Research Fellowship
    Rebekah M. Richmond Obstetrics/Gynecology, University of Florida Health Sciences Center-Jacksonville, Jacksonville, FL
    Aaron L. Rogaczewski General Surgery, Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals, Milwaukee, WI
    Gregory D. Rushing General Surgery, Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA
    Gregory A. Russell Family Practice, St. Anthony Hospital, Oklahoma City, OK
    H. David Scott Internal Medicine, Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA
    James F. Selph Medicine-Preliminary, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville, TN
    Neurology, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville, TN
    Alexis E. Shafii General Surgery, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Monte R. Sichelman Transitional, MetroWest Medical Center-Framingham Union Hospital, Framingham, MA
    Ophthalmology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Susannah L. Simone Pediatrics, San Antonio Uniformed Services Health Education Consortium, Lackland AFB, TX
    James R. Slusher Internal Medicine, University of Louisville School of Medicine, Louisville, KY
    Paul G. Swartz Medicine-Preliminary, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Radiology-Diagnostic, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA
    Jennifer Sweeney Radiology-Diagnostic, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Matthew J. Swick Orthopaedic Surgery, Atlanta Medical Center, Atlanta, GA
    Marcelo C. Targino Medicine-Primary, Cambridge Hospital/Cambridge Health Alliance Program, Cambridge, MA
    Christine C. Tebes Obstetrics/Gynecology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Marjorie A. Thurlow Transitional, York Hospital, York, PA
    Rafael Trespalacios Medicine-Preliminary, Palmetto Richland Memorial Hospital, Columbia, SC
    Ophthalmology, University of South Carolina School of Medicine, Columbia, SC
    John A. Vadaparampil Transitional, St. Barnabas Medical Center, Livingston, NJ
    Radiology-Diagnostic, University of Kansas School of Medicine, Kansas City, KS
    Jennifer L. Wallace Pediatrics, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    J. Christopher Webster Urology, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Michael T. Wenning Psychiatry, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Michael J. Yarnoz Internal Medicine, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, GA
    Larissa L. Zaulyanov Medicine-Preliminary, University of South Florida College of Medicine, Tampa, FL
    Dermatology, Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami, FL

    Totals:
    Anesthesiology 8
    Deferred Residency 2
    Dermatology 1
    Emergency Medicine 2
    Family Practice 7
    Internal Medicine 18
    Medicine-Primary 1
    Neurological Surgery 1
    Neurology 2
    Obstetrics & Gynecology 4
    Ophthalmology 5
    Orthopaedic Surgery 5
    Otolaryngology 4
    Pathology 2
    Pediatrics 11
    Plastic Surgery 1
    Psychiatry 8
    Radiology-Diagnostic 11
    Surgery-General 6
    Transitional 2
    Urology 2_
     
  22. pretty impressive lists for all three schools i'd say. now, i wanna know which one is better, but i don't have time to REALLY analyze the lists. other than counting up all the "best" residencies, not considering the hospitals they're at, just what they're doing. i think i counted more for USF than UF, which doesn't sound right. anyway, anybody care to make a real analysis of this data.

    PS. foxy, how the HELL did you find the UM match lists? i've looked through google several times and came up with dirt each time.
     
  23. McEntrye

    McEntrye Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Just to tilt this back to the California Advantage ;-) in answer an above question: UC Irvine is probably lower ranked than it should be due to a few scandals relating to <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/ap/sep99/ap-cadaver-scandal091899.asp" target="_blank">cadavers</a> that have occured over the past few years.
    I also heard a story from a UCLA med student that a few years ago some UC Irvine med students were taking organs home from the anatomy lab so that they could study them at their leisure. They then dumped the body parts and they were found by members of the community and traced to the med school. Apparently, Irvine almost lost its accreditation of this and <a href="http://duke.usask.ca/~guttmang/AACA.1999/0311.html" target="_blank">similar</a> scandals, possibly lowering its reputation and therefore its ranking.

    On the other hand, its USMLE scores are really high, one third of the students scored in the top 99 percentile, and its match list is apparently quite good also.
     
  24. there is no way that any school anywhere in any galaxy, let alone here in the US, has 1/3 of its class score in the top 99th percentile. maybe ONE or TWO people in the class can do that, but not more than that!

    what's 99th percentile for MCAT? probably 43-45. there's no way that more than 2 people will score that in any university, not even if it had a very lucky year.

    But if Irvine students really do score this well, then WOW!!
     
  25. McEntrye

    McEntrye Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Thats what the group of interviewees were told by the assistant dean, and also my faculty interviewer showed me an email she had just received to that effect. So while somewhat hard to believe, it seems to be the case. 99th percentile on the MCAT is more likely 40 or so, because very few people get multiple 15s 14s.
     
  26. Papa Smurf

    Papa Smurf Thug 4 Life 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by McEntrye:
    <strong>Thats what the group of interviewees were told by the assistant dean, and also my faculty interviewer showed me an email she had just received to that effect. So while somewhat hard to believe, it seems to be the case. 99th percentile on the MCAT is more likely 40 or so, because very few people get multiple 15s 14s.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now let's just take a look at the numbers shall we. Irvine's class size is about 90 or so. 1/3 of that would be 30. Say about 18,000 students sit for the USMLE each year (US allopathic students + Carribean students + FMG's). Now the top 1 % would be 180 students. 30/180 = approximately 17%. There's no way in hell any schools has 17% of the top scorers in any one class. I don't buy it. I think they're just manipulating the numbers somehow and trying to deceive. If it's true, then I'm impressed as hell.
     
  27. Doctora Foxy

    Doctora Foxy Meow 7+ Year Member

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by A. Caveman:
    <strong>
    PS. foxy, how the HELL did you find the UM match lists? i've looked through google several times and came up with dirt each time.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My new best friend Ibis PMed me the link. (Thanks!) :D It has the past 5 years, but not the ones from last week (maybe they'll be up soon though)

    p.s. Since I'm interested in derm, I noticed that UF didn't have any derm placements last year (well one but it was weird--preliminary??), and UM had 4. :rolleyes: It also seems like a TON of UF grads went into primary care residencies.
     
  28. bump means Bring Up My Post
     
  29. CANES2006

    CANES2006 Miami chica 10+ Year Member

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    Aria111,
    I have no idea why some schools are ranked and others are not. It seems like alot of bull and politics to me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Personally, I could care less if a particular school was ranked. Those type of things don't impress me. I've seen alot of residents from Harvard, Stanford, Yale, etc. that are all thumbs when it comes to residency. There are so incompetent that it is mindboggling how they got into these "prestigious" schools, when they are supposed to be on top of their game. Anyway, what school are you currently leaning towards?
    CANES2006
     
  30. so what's your particular take on the Florida school situation CANES???
     
  31. CANES2006

    CANES2006 Miami chica 10+ Year Member

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    Hey Cavey,
    Personally, I think that USF and UM have great clinical experience, and UF doesn't have much to offer in that department. Even though UF is ranked (why that is the case I'm not sure), I don't think too highly of them. They are a college town, and thus don't have a grand, diversified patient population. Shands is decent, but it's only one hospital--hardly enough clinical experience. It is because of this that I decided to turn down their interview offer. I'm thinking about going into Emergency Medicine, so for me a great clinical experience is valuable. Anyway, that's just my take on things, and I don't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers about UF.
    CANES2006
     
  32. THE instiGATOR

    THE instiGATOR Cow Tipper 7+ Year Member

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    Don't worry, CANES. Most of us hate UF med at this point in time. <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> I love the fact that you turned them down. That's great!

    There really is a great deal of clinical experience at Shands, though. You don't have to live in a major city to have exposure to pathology. It helps when dealing with trauma, but a great range of unusual pathology...people drive into Gainesville. When I was shadowing a surgeon at UF, I saw all kinds of stuff. People traveled in from states as distant as Arizona. I don't think you can really judge Shands by its location.
     
  33. Yes you can. Down Goes UF!! Fall you bastards...FALLLLLL.

    we like CANES.... :D
     
  34. Papa Smurf

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    Looks like another SDN'er has been accepted to UF (Pokey). That makes two on here. I'm sure there'll be at least half a dozen when all is said and done. I wish I had the opp to turn UF down. I swear, I'm gonna apply to UF come residency match time and then rank them last on my list! Show em what they're missing! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> :D
     
  35. good idea Pops. we'll show those boys what's up later on down the trail...see those ****ers at the next light....

    meantime..who's the other SDNer? is it miami marmot? and why don't those PEOPLE post on these Florida threads. those asocial punks!! come on jiggas, give us a holla...you know you feel left out.
     
  36. THE instiGATOR

    THE instiGATOR Cow Tipper 7+ Year Member

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    Yeah, Pokey must be awesome. He/she got an interview at UAB, which is hard to do as a FL resident. Trust me, I tried last year. They rejected my ass so quickly my head spun...and I didn't apply this year. :D I don't know if I want to even give UF the time of day come residency time, Papa. I'm thinking I need to head north or west. I've been in one area for waaaaaay too long. North Carolina would be ideal, but maybe I'll wait to settle down there. I need to move around as much as possible between now and the time I establish my career.

    In the wise, and manipulated, words of Cartman: Screw UF, I'm going home!!!
     
  37. Papa Smurf

    Papa Smurf Thug 4 Life 7+ Year Member

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    The other SDN'er was Pokey. I can't remember if it was him or BlameIt that started that entertaining FSU thread. Anyway, Pokey just posted on that huge 800 post-long thread about his UF acceptance.
     
  38. Yo big Papa, easy on the grass...on your penultimate (sp?) post you said "looks like another SDNer's gotten in (Pokey)." so i knew that pokey is the other one. i was wondering who the first was.

    PS. i LOVE it that this board becomes so ACTIVE at 1:30 EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. anybody else notice that? i love that. i always expect it, and it never lets me down. it's like we're night owls/ procrastinators that have had to stay up late so much we're used to it now.
     
  39. Pokey

    Pokey Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    I just got back from an interview at UM and I have to say that I was pretty impressed. With the private school tuition and all I went there somewhat skeptical. However, I thought their setup was sweet. Jackson Memorial has so much to offer in terms of patient volume and variety of medical conditions to treat. The city is cool as hell and they even have a freakin' weight room in the medical school building. Nothing like knockin out a couple of squats in between classes, eh? They have definitely moved way up on my list.
     
  40. THE instiGATOR

    THE instiGATOR Cow Tipper 7+ Year Member

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    Albany has 2 weight rooms, if I remember correctly, but they are still ghetto. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

    I just can't wait for August to arrive!
     
  41. Papa Smurf

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    Yeah, my bad Caveman. Pokey doesn't have many posts, so I just thought maybe you didn't know who or what I was talking about the first time around. The first SDN'er was joehuf. He got in a cpl weeks ago I believe. Ditto on the 1:30 thing.
     
  42. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
    <strong>Pokey doesn't have many posts, so I just thought maybe you didn't know who or what I was talking about the first time around.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How dare you/ How you dare/ You dare How??? i always understand....

    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto on the 1:30 thing.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Co'!

    PS. sleepy time. where the HELL is my little doctora? i need some nuzzling before i go to sleep. oh well...i think she met someone else--Papa, how could you do this to me?
    I'm OUT--(btw tell Gainer i'm done posting on a saturday night so he can take me off the geek list).
     
  43. oldman

    oldman Senior Citizen 10+ Year Member

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    i have a friend who turned down vanderbilt for UCI. i think for the tuition.
     
  44. CANES2006

    CANES2006 Miami chica 10+ Year Member

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    Down Goes UF!! Fall you bastards...FALLLLLL.

    we like CANES.... :D

    Aw suchs, now you made me blush. <img border="0" alt="[Lovey]" title="" src="graemlins/lovey.gif" /> And that's right, down with UF! Down with the establishment! Down with any form of social control! Down with... Sorry, wrong kind of post. :p
     
  45. CANES2006

    CANES2006 Miami chica 10+ Year Member

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    Hey Cavey, I sent you a PM with my response! Take care. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
     
  46. joehuf

    joehuf Member 10+ Year Member

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    I think all these residency lists show that all 3 Florida schools are very competitive for residency matches and that one can succeed at any one of the schools. I've always wondered why UF was ranked higher than Miami. I was incredibly impressed with Miami's facilities when I was there. As for cost, I chose UF over Miami and a big factor was money. Not only is tuition cheaper at UF, but it is a hell of a lot cheaper to live in Gainesville than it is to live in Miami. I know of at least two other applicants from my class that chose UF over Miami for similar reasons. I guess all things being equal, both schools provide a good education and both schools give you a shot at some competitive residencies, so roughly $100,000 less in debt gives the edge to UF. It is possible that this advantage allows UF to "steal" high ranking students in the state of FL from Miami, but who knows.
     
  47. joehuf

    joehuf Member 10+ Year Member

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    P.S. UF students also go to Shands Jacksonville for clinical rotations for those of you with their sights on "urban medicine". Although I can't speak as to the clinical experience at UF since I haven't done it yet, I can say that patient population at Shands is pretty doggone diverse. Gainesville is located smack dab in the middle of nowhere. I work at Shands and my job is to handle/screen referals from outlying hospitals in the area, most of which are basically glorified doctor's offices that lack personel and faculties to handle all but basic problems. Any kind of "complicated" or "teaching" case gets sent to Shands from these hospitals. In other words, it wouldn't be fair to judge the patient population just in Gainesville when in fact the patient population basically comes from a whole section of the state in between Orlando and Jacksonville. Also, as Swampman pointed out, people come to Shands for Specialty care from all over the country. That, said, I would say that Jackson and Tampa certainly have a clinical advantage in terms of volume of patients, and in what I would call "urban medical problems" (GSWs, ODs, etc.; I'm a stuck up suburban boy, can't you tell). However, I would say that it's unfair to say that UF's clinical experience is limited as compared to other schools. I still agree with you guys that UF should have been a little more open-minded in its admissions process and I think they passed up on some very qualified students unnecesarily, but my pride requires that I defend them and at least set the story straight. Take care.
     
  48. BlastFromThePast

    BlastFromThePast Yes Account on Hold

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    Yeah like the fact University of Washington has >50% entering primary care. They are ranked #1. But are they better clinicians than, say Penn, which has only about 1/3 of the class entering primary care and ranked #11? Most likely not.
     
  49. piii

    piii Classifieds Approved 2+ Year Member

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    Did you have bring back a 14 year old thread with this post?
     
    dermocrat88, teeayejay, Jalby and 2 others like this.
  50. EaglesontheWarpath

    EaglesontheWarpath 2+ Year Member

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    Based off his username, it seems like they did!
     
  51. BlastFromThePast

    BlastFromThePast Yes Account on Hold

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    It was a interesting point by the username jalby. And is still relevant today.
     

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