UCLA or UOP?

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eaglecoach

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I've recently been accepted to UCLA but have already put my deposit down for UOP... I need to decide within the next two weeks if I'm going to go to UCLA or not. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me some advice as to which school would be the better choice. What are some of the pros and cons of each school that you know of or have heard? Any feedback is much appreciated! Thanks!
 
Are you kidding me??!!?? UCLA all the way!!!!

dentisttobe
 
UOP is a better school is you plan on practicing general dentistry. For the most part, the students there are more happy and less stressed out than those at UCLA. They also have a better patient pool to work with and usually get more clinical experience as a result. You do get out one year earlier, so if you are practicing general dentistry, that may be very appealing.

UCLA is a school that most students use as a stepping stool to get to specialty school. I think that greater than 80% of the students apply to specialty school. That is probably why UCLA has one of the top averages for Board I scores in the nation (#1 in 2002). Also, the grading system may be pass/no pass, but the courseload is extremely rigorous. The school seems to like to work their students to the bone and make life hell. In addition, the patient pool is Westwood is not that great, so one of the complaints that students have is finding patients.
 
dentisttobe,

Why would he be kidding? Debating whether to go to ucla or uop is legit concern. I debated this for some time and ultimately I chose to go to uop. In fact, I know this one guy from UOP who chose there becuase his dad, who's a faculty at ucla dental school, strongly suggested he go there. Many students debate this, and some choose ucla and others uop.

eaglecoach,

You have to ask yourself what you want to get out from dental school. These 2 schools have different emphasis. UCLA focuses on academics and research so they'll prepare to very well for the Part I boards. This will be important if you know you want to specialize. Another cool thing is that they have a P/NP system, so that relieves the pressure of gettings A's. I would say that UCLA will give you a better chance to get into a specialty program than UOP. However, if your looking to receive strong clinical training, you probably won't get that at UCLA. UOP has strong clinical emphasis and you'll see many complicated cases there. After 3 years at UOP, most are ready to go out and work in the real world. Very few go into GPR's b/c they feel they're not ready. From talking to many UCLA graduates, I know that the majority do GPR's becuase they're not ready. So just weigh in all the different factors and see which you feel are more important. If money is the #1 issue than go to ucla. You'll save alot more money there. As for me, it wasn't the most important factor. I liked that fact that I could get out in 3 years rather than 4, since it gives me an extra year over others.
Anyways, good luck with your decision. Either way, you can't really go wrong because both are great schools.
 
Ditto to the above posts!
 
Thanks everyone for taking the time to help me out by giving me some advice. I'm still sitting on the fence a little bit altough I am leaning more towards UCLA. I know that it pretty much comes down to what I want to do in the future... general or speciality. I was thinking that since I'm not 100% sure if I want to specialize that I should probabaly go to UCLA just in case I do decide to specialize. Is this legitimate or logical?

Again, thanks for all your advice!
 
If the only reason that you want to go to UCLA is because you want the possibility of specializing, then that may not be the right choice. While I did previously mention that UCLA is more of a 'specializing' school, that wasn't entirely accurate.

While a majority of students here do go on to specialize (and thus you can see why they have very high Board I scores), you have to realize that in fact it does make it more difficult to go to a school where EVERYONE wants to specialize. For instance, if you have 20 other classmates who are applying for ortho programs, unless you have better scores than a majority of them, you will likely not get an interview. The reason is that schools with ortho programs will not want to interview 20 students from ONE school, EVEN if they have better scores than students from other schools. I heard that this has been a problem at UCLA. Basically, you are competing against not only people around the nation but people at your own school. So unless you plan on being a top student WITHIN UCLA, then you will likely end up in a GPR program (which I later found out counts as 'specializing' --> counts toward boosting UCLA's stats of sending students off to specialty programs after graduation).

So as you can see, it is not as simple as saying that you want to go to UCLA just because you want the option of specializing. The school is tough! Even with pass/no pass, it is still a very competitive environment.

Btw, I told my interviewer at the UCLA interview that I wanted to go to UCLA because of the high average board scores and he told me that it has less to do with the program and more to do with the students that they accept. He said that wherever their students would have gone, they would have gotten just as high scores elsewhere.

With all this said and done, the reason I chose UCLA is because of top-notch faculty, prestige that comes with the name, facilities (they are upgrading right now), cost of tuition, and being surrounded by some of the smartest students in the nation.
 
That's why I'm looking at some of the other schools I got into aside from Columbia and UOP. I really want to do ortho and class rank is pretty much what determines who gets ortho assuming board scores are above 90%. The competition at those schools will be brutal
 
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