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anybody know what the average salary of physicians/surgeons in uk?
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And exhaustive Googe search involving the words "physician salary united kingdom" gave me this:
http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=553
http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=553
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I don't know if you wanted salary information just for kicks, or if you're thinking about med school in the UK, but you might want to read this.
April 24, 2006
"Shortages of doctors in previous years has meant Britain encouraged overseas doctors and nurses to train in the NHS, and currently as many as 15,000 doctors, mainly from the Indian subcontinent but also from Africa, are working in British hospitals while training to become specialists or are looking for jobs in order to do so.
Medical trainees work for up to seven years as junior doctors before qualifying as consultants or general practitioners.
But in March the government announced that any UK or EU applicant, even if not as well qualified, must have priority over doctors from elsewhere.
Every doctor from outside the EU wanting to work in the UK will need a work permit which they can only get from the hospital offering them a job after it has proven no applicant from the UK or the EU could fill the vacancy.
Presently the vast majority of overseas doctors training to get a specialist qualification take one six-month contract after another and without a job and the work permit that comes along with it, thousands of doctors will have to leave the UK.
Along with the U.S. Britain has recently been harshly criticised by the World Health Organisation for poaching foreign doctors and nurses from countries such as Africa adding to the chronic shortage of qualified medical staff there.
The government is being called upon to rethink the ruling as in many areas in the UK, services depend on foreign doctors.
There are currently than 117,000 doctors in the NHS, and medical schools are full with record numbers of new British doctors expected to enter the service in August.
That could mean as many as 15,000 overseas doctors will have little chance of qualifying as specialists or completing their training."
Just something to think about if you want to head over to the UK for med school.
April 24, 2006
"Shortages of doctors in previous years has meant Britain encouraged overseas doctors and nurses to train in the NHS, and currently as many as 15,000 doctors, mainly from the Indian subcontinent but also from Africa, are working in British hospitals while training to become specialists or are looking for jobs in order to do so.
Medical trainees work for up to seven years as junior doctors before qualifying as consultants or general practitioners.
But in March the government announced that any UK or EU applicant, even if not as well qualified, must have priority over doctors from elsewhere.
Every doctor from outside the EU wanting to work in the UK will need a work permit which they can only get from the hospital offering them a job after it has proven no applicant from the UK or the EU could fill the vacancy.
Presently the vast majority of overseas doctors training to get a specialist qualification take one six-month contract after another and without a job and the work permit that comes along with it, thousands of doctors will have to leave the UK.
Along with the U.S. Britain has recently been harshly criticised by the World Health Organisation for poaching foreign doctors and nurses from countries such as Africa adding to the chronic shortage of qualified medical staff there.
The government is being called upon to rethink the ruling as in many areas in the UK, services depend on foreign doctors.
There are currently than 117,000 doctors in the NHS, and medical schools are full with record numbers of new British doctors expected to enter the service in August.
That could mean as many as 15,000 overseas doctors will have little chance of qualifying as specialists or completing their training."
Just something to think about if you want to head over to the UK for med school.
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I am studying public health right now in the UK, and we discuss often how doctors get paid, plus I get to meet a lot of NHS trainees. I think the answer varies a lot whether you work as primary care (they call it GP, for general practitioner on the other side of the pond) or as a specialist. Most of what I know is how GPs get paid, which is in short not too much in comparison with american doctors. Until very soon, doctors are getting paid by "capitation," which means they receive a certain amount of money for a certain number of patients in order to encourage them to minimize unnecessary tests since the government is paying. This is frustrating from what i hear, because it means that you actually have limited funds...when in the US you might not even blink about giving a patient an MRI or X-Ray just in case, you may think twice in the UK. That is apparently about to change for a "fee-for-service" type of payment plan, which has its own issues. For the doctor, that is better...although it will lead to more expensive care for the government over all.
Many specialties receive salaries...although I do believe they are actually not that much when you take into account how expensive life can be in the UK (London, for example, is one of the top 5 most expensive cities in the world...compare to New York, which is the USs most expensive city, at number 20!!!).
If you are American, I do recommend you do rotations in the UK so you can see how different the medical system is over there. For the doctor (and for the patient), the NHS can be VEERRRRY frustrating, plus the hospitals themselves are much more hierarchical in character than American ones.
Many specialties receive salaries...although I do believe they are actually not that much when you take into account how expensive life can be in the UK (London, for example, is one of the top 5 most expensive cities in the world...compare to New York, which is the USs most expensive city, at number 20!!!).
If you are American, I do recommend you do rotations in the UK so you can see how different the medical system is over there. For the doctor (and for the patient), the NHS can be VEERRRRY frustrating, plus the hospitals themselves are much more hierarchical in character than American ones.
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" But in March the government announced that any UK or EU applicant, even if not as well qualified, must have priority over doctors from elsewhere.
Every doctor from outside the EU wanting to work in the UK will need a work permit which they can only get from the hospital offering them a job after it has proven no applicant from the UK or the EU could fill the vacancy."
That is true for pretty much every job- same as it is in the US. A company/organization has to show due diligence in searching for a country national candidate for the position and show that they cannot find one and that only the foreigner can satisfy the demands of the position. This is easy to do for unique or specialized careers/jobs but harder for something more general.
Every doctor from outside the EU wanting to work in the UK will need a work permit which they can only get from the hospital offering them a job after it has proven no applicant from the UK or the EU could fill the vacancy."
That is true for pretty much every job- same as it is in the US. A company/organization has to show due diligence in searching for a country national candidate for the position and show that they cannot find one and that only the foreigner can satisfy the demands of the position. This is easy to do for unique or specialized careers/jobs but harder for something more general.
