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Alright Massachusetts people, I am starting a thread and intending it to be much like ones from the past...please feel free to post anything and everything relating to UMASS Med School and/or your experience with the process at UMASS? I'm sure this will prove to be very helpful for all of us in the coming months.

Thanks,
Blueboy


Here let me start:

Interview invite: Oct. 27
Interview: Nov. 18

Now I'm just sitting back and waiting...

Oh, and any advice/info from previous applicants to UMASS is welcome!
 
Interview invite: 11/21
Interview date: 12/2

I was told that most people wouldn't hear a final decision till March. Were you told this as well?

edit: and BTW, what's your undergrad school?
 
I am an August MCATer.
Got an interview there tomorrow! Received the invite on Nov 15.
 
Interviewed October 21. Hale-bopp has been accepted after a Sept interview.


UMass rower- where did you hear about the March notification time?
 
Originally posted by G0S2
Interviewed October 21. Hale-bopp has been accepted after a Sept interview.


UMass rower- where did you hear about the March notification time?

Both of the students doing the introduction/tour said that was the time that they both found out decisions- one was accepted immediately, the other was waitlisted first. Did hale-bopp go early decision?
 
Hale-bopp was also accepted to U Maryland, so I guess that would rule E.D. out. Must just be a great applicant.
 
Yeah, I would cut off a finger to go to UMass. You hear that AdCom! (Thumbs excluded, I need those to hold things). Anyway I interviewed on Dec. 16th, my first interview after two years of applying, very refreshing. I treated the whole thing like a therapy session. Anyway, I will be praying for a waitlist so that I can bombard UMass with love letters until they let me in just to shut me up. But seriously, I would love to make the cut, the atmosphere there was fantastic and Worcester rocks. I also heard that we may hear as early as the first week of February, but that is purely speculation based on my conversations with various second year students. But in the info session they told us we would know if we were accepted 🙂 , waitlisted 🙁 , or rejected +pissed+ , sometime in March or early April. Man, this process sucks. LET'S GO PATS!
 
hi there,

i interviewed 10/28 and have not heard anything. i too would LOVE to go to umass and i absolutely loved it when i visited...

when i interviewed there, the dean told us that we could hear as early as two weeks from interview date or as late as april....i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

good luck!
 
for those who were wondering, no, I did not apply early decision. I was invited to interview at the end of August, and interviewed the first week (mid-sept), and got a decision from them in early December. we are lucky to have such an affordable program in-state.
 
So I guess we'll start this business up again.

Interview invite....late Sept?
Interivew............last week in Oct.

Hear nothing so far, but they told us not to expect anything until the end of March.

greenie
 
2ndary Complete: 1st week of November
Interv Invitation: 2nd week of November
Interview date: 2nd week of December
Acceptance: mid-January

The tough part is when you'll have to compare other offers to UMass... wait, that's the fun part. We are very lucky to have this school in our state. For those of you still waiting to hear back from them, they have a reputation of offering acceptances very late in the cycle... as does every other school, I'm discovering. Hang in there!
 
I interviewed at UMss in mid-late October and received an acceptance in November ... I now realize how great of a school UMass med is (the price is important for me - I don't want to have too many loans if I don't want to!). The hard decision for me will come if I get accepted to Harvard/Stanford/Duke/(and maybe NYU).
 
hi all,
i was just accepted to umass med yesterday!!!
i am ecstatic right now....
fyi- i interviewed end of october....
hang in there- u will hear soon! i'm almost positive i will be going there.....combination of great education, incredibly cheap tuition, and proximity to home seems unbeatable.

if any of you who have been accepted think u are def. going there, PM me!
 
The schedule of interviews and acceptances seems so arbitrary. I interviewed the first week of December and haven't heard anything yet. Nothing to do but keep waiting, it seems.
 
phatty925 - Congrats!

I am very jealous. I am waiting patiently to hear back after my early November interview.

Would you mind posting your stats? I am wondering if these pre-April acceptances are very numbers oriented.

Thanks
 
Massholes,

Good news last week--I'm in!!! I was very surprised to hear so soon (they told me in late Oct not to expect anything until late March). I'm thrilled and I'm pretty sure this means the end of the application cycle for me!

greenie
 
Congratulations greenie8! UMass would probably do it for me as well.
How did you hear about it? Any insights into where they are in the process?
 
Congrats UMass rower!!!!!

Are you definitely going? I sent in my deposit the day I got the letter. Still not 100% though, even though I know I'd be crazy not to go.

Congrats again and let all of us know your plans.

greenie.
 
Originally posted by umass rower
I'M IN!!!!!

Congrats!!! What next? 48 hours of heavy partying and drinking? :clap:
When and how did you findout?
 
Edik,
Sorry about not getting back to you sooner. I just saw your post to me.

I found out on Feb 12. The letter was dated Feb 9. I interviewed in late October.

It came in a big white envelope that was not very thick.

Let us know when you hear.

greenie.
 
Originally posted by greenie8
Edik,
Sorry about not getting back to you sooner. I just saw your post to me.

I found out on Feb 12. The letter was dated Feb 9. I interviewed in late October.

It came in a big white envelope that was not very thick.

Let us know when you hear.

greenie.

Thanks greenie!
As you can see I am a little anxious about UMass. 😉
 
Thanks, greenie8 and edik! I'm very excited right now. 😀

It's not definite that I'll go there, depending on if I get in other other places and they astound me at my interview, but it's more than likely that I'll be at UMass this fall.

I found out by phone call this morning, but I was in somewhat special circumstances. I have an application in for an HPSP scholarship, and I needed an acceptance letter by March 9th to be considered for it. So my recruiter sent an e-mail out to all the schools saying that if they reached a decision, I had to be told as soon as possible. They called yesterday afternoon, but I wasn't home, so they left a message. They called again this morning, and I had them fax the letter to my recruiter.

I don't know if I'll take the scholarship if I get it and I go to UMass, but I want to at least have it as an option. And if I decide to go elsewhere, the scholarship will still work at the other school, so cost of a school won't be a consideration if I get the scholarship. Just some thoughts bouncing around.
 
YES!

Congratulations UMass Rower!!!!!!!!!!
 
Thanks! It has made for a very happy weekend.
 
Congrats Umassers!

Would you mind posting your stats? I'm applying this June with a 3.5 and a 29 MCAT, EC's with inner city health clinics, Spanish translator, and clinical research-- I'm a little worried that my numbers will keep me from getting my foot in the door-- what do you think? I would LOVE to go to UMASS--

oh, one more thing- what do you like about Umass, aside from location and price- did kids seem happy there?

thanks!

kings
 
Originally posted by umass rower
It's not definite that I'll go there, depending on if I get in other other places and they astound me at my interview, but it's more than likely that I'll be at UMass this fall.
I don't know if I'll take the scholarship if I get it and I go to UMass, but I want to at least have it as an option. And if I decide to go elsewhere, the scholarship will still work at the other school, so cost of a school won't be a consideration if I get the scholarship. Just some thoughts bouncing around.

Be definite! THere is absolutely no reason not to come here if you get in, even if cost is not a consideration. Most honest residency PDs and area attendings will tell you that UMassmed grads are quite often better prepared than those from other massachusetts institutions (I'm not just saying that). The student body is much more collegial, cooperative, and interesting than the other places in the state. THere may not be as many politician's daughters, californians, or superstar researchers but those are all benefits also. It also is much cheaper to live out here and keep a car out here. All the students are Mass. residents too. When it comes time to match for residency programs, UMass students match very favorably in comparison with other places, although many choose less desirable locations for personal or professional reasons.

In response to the other person's post - give it a shot. I don't think your numbers will hold you back that much, I believe there are people with similar numbers who get in every year. Of course, there are people who apply a couple of years in a row before they get in, but being a well-rounded person is very important for admission here. And yes, people are happy. Some don't like Worcester too much because they have too many connections to boston, but most adjust, some actually live closer to boston and commute. As I said, students cooperate and work together very well - no cheating, no stealing books from each other, etc. The egos are also considerably smaller.
 
It looks like I'll be coming to UMass (unless I get into HST ... and then I'll have a hard decision on my hands). But anyways, how is t-mobile reception in the umass med school area?
 
Has there been any recent students matching into Nuero-Surgery as UMASS? That is if anyone is even interested in nuero ...
 
Originally posted by BrownieMasshole
It looks like I'll be coming to UMass (unless I get into HST ... and then I'll have a hard decision on my hands). But anyways, how is t-mobile reception in the umass med school area?

There are always a few people every year who have this decision - people end up falling on both sides of the issue ultimately. It's a nice decision to have to make though. I have t-mobile -reception is great although mine doesn't seem to work within the library here. I don't think that's unique though. T-mobile has some tough spots on the north shore of boston, where I grew up, and in a lot of new hampshire. I am not really a huge fan of cell phones but I have never had trouble in worcester. Usually have full strength connections! But dude, if you're deciding what med school to go to by the strength of your cell phone connection I would have to wonder! 😉

About the neurosurg match question - there is no neurosurg residency program here, so that might be a big reason, but there haven't been any matches in the field in a few years, to my knowledge. That's probably because no one has applied to it though, because there have been many matches in ortho (5 last year alone), urology, derm which are as competitive.
 
No no, I'm not deciding which school I'm going to based on cell-phone reception - my family's family plan is up soon and we're considering both AT&T and T-mobile and since it seems like I'll be going to UMass, I wanted to make sure that both have good reception in the Woostah area.

I assume you're already at UMass - what are your thoughts about the school?

Originally posted by yaah
There are always a few people every year who have this decision - people end up falling on both sides of the issue ultimately. It's a nice decision to have to make though. I have t-mobile -reception is great although mine doesn't seem to work within the library here. I don't think that's unique though. T-mobile has some tough spots on the north shore of boston, where I grew up, and in a lot of new hampshire. I am not really a huge fan of cell phones but I have never had trouble in worcester. Usually have full strength connections! But dude, if you're deciding what med school to go to by the strength of your cell phone connection I would have to wonder! 😉

About the neurosurg match question - there is no neurosurg residency program here, so that might be a big reason, but there haven't been any matches in the field in a few years, to my knowledge. That's probably because no one has applied to it though, because there have been many matches in ortho (5 last year alone), urology, derm which are as competitive.
 
I just wanted to let UMass know that I love it and I am honored to have interviewed with it. I have been involved with Albany lately, but UMass is always first in my heart and I would gladly give up Albany if UMass would just send me the big envelope. Come on, don't think about it. You don't need to take another look at my file, just send the letter. You got to take a chance sometimes.🙂

Hey yaah, what year are you over there?

Let's go Sox!
 
Originally posted by BrownieMasshole
we're considering both AT&T and T-mobile
I should have invested in AT&T wireless a couple years back. Sigh. Wouldn't have to worry about using up my minutes then. I still hate cellphones though. Demon spawn.


I assume you're already at UMass - what are your thoughts about the school?

Actually, I don't go to school here, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. 😛

I am a 4th year at UMass - just finished my rank order list (the word RANK has several connotations in this whole process...). I am going into pathology which is a totally uncool field and every time I tell someone what I am going into I hear a lame crack about how my patients don't talk back to me. There is even a lovely topic about this on the path forum that I started. But my parents think I'm cool so there. But gee whiz, all these youngsters in the 1st year class look so young! I feel old, even though almost half my class is probably older than me (I'm 27). I can't really relate to the 1st years either, they aren't interested in things people my age are interested in, like linament oil, the best value for your dollar in purchasing hearing aid batteries, and Italian Opera.

Anyway, I have posted lots previously about UMass. Try this one out:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84825

It's a great school, most med schools are. There is a lot of freedom here to pursue your own interests, although there is some encouragement towards a primary care career (didn't work for me, obviously). Clinical years education is very good, probably better than in the big-wig ivory towers of the big cities around here. You come out of here with a great ability to make connections in clinical reasoning as well as all the tools you need. People do well on the boards - a couple of years ago there were a few people who just missed passing but I found the curriculum prepared me well for all the board exams. They do well in residency match too although lots of people choose so-called "less desirable" locations deliberately. The teaching of the faculty is also wonderful, there are lots of faculty here who are here because of the teaching opportunities and the student body.
 
Originally posted by kings2
Would you mind posting your stats?
I don't usually do this, but I'll make an exception since you're interested in UMass.

3.7 GPA, 33N MCAT (13VR, 10BS, 10PS). Bio major and Spanish minor. Major EC's include research (I have one publication and two more likely in the future, but none of them made my application), athletics (3 years crew), Eagle Scout, and lots of work experience with kids (I want to go into pediatrics). I had some volunteer work and a couple random activities, but the others were the big ones IMO.

I don't think your numbers will prevent you from getting a foot in the door. UMass tends to interview a large percentage of its applicants because it get so many fewer than other schools. I think it will be important for you to pull off two things to really boost your chances: write a very good (eloquent, interesting, etc.) personal statement, and make sure you dazzle during the interview. The two interviewers I had conducted fairly laid-back interviews, and for the most part things went conversationally. Make a connection with them somehow, and be ready to discuss any interesting ECs in great depth. Also, go in with some questions prepared for you to ask the interviewer; both of mine asked if there were things I wanted to know about themselves or UMass.
 
How is the cost of living at UMass? How much do people tend to pay for rent? Where do people tend to live?

Originally posted by yaah
I should have invested in AT&T wireless a couple years back. Sigh. Wouldn't have to worry about using up my minutes then. I still hate cellphones though. Demon spawn.



Actually, I don't go to school here, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. 😛

I am a 4th year at UMass - just finished my rank order list (the word RANK has several connotations in this whole process...). I am going into pathology which is a totally uncool field and every time I tell someone what I am going into I hear a lame crack about how my patients don't talk back to me. There is even a lovely topic about this on the path forum that I started. But my parents think I'm cool so there. But gee whiz, all these youngsters in the 1st year class look so young! I feel old, even though almost half my class is probably older than me (I'm 27). I can't really relate to the 1st years either, they aren't interested in things people my age are interested in, like linament oil, the best value for your dollar in purchasing hearing aid batteries, and Italian Opera.

Anyway, I have posted lots previously about UMass. Try this one out:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84825

It's a great school, most med schools are. There is a lot of freedom here to pursue your own interests, although there is some encouragement towards a primary care career (didn't work for me, obviously). Clinical years education is very good, probably better than in the big-wig ivory towers of the big cities around here. You come out of here with a great ability to make connections in clinical reasoning as well as all the tools you need. People do well on the boards - a couple of years ago there were a few people who just missed passing but I found the curriculum prepared me well for all the board exams. They do well in residency match too although lots of people choose so-called "less desirable" locations deliberately. The teaching of the faculty is also wonderful, there are lots of faculty here who are here because of the teaching opportunities and the student body.
 
Originally posted by BrownieMasshole
How is the cost of living at UMass? How much do people tend to pay for rent? Where do people tend to live?

Most people live close to the school. There are some who live farther away (i.e. Boston) because of family, etc.

Worcester is cheaper than Boston, but probably more expensive than the Springfield area. Some people pay as little as a few hundred dollars per month, others >$1000. It can be cheaper if you live with others and rent an old house (like one floor of a triple decker, part of another house, etc. There are certain areas where more students tend to live, like around the Elm Park area. Pretty safe overall, there are some questionable places but lots of options. Parking generally isn't much of a problem either.

What the rower said about interviews is pretty accurate - most interviews are with faculty members who take it pretty casual, leaving a lot of the initiative on you for asking questions, etc.
 
If I decide to go to UMass, where would you recommend I look for housing? Is there a website listing housing? Should I wait until the June 5th matriculating students get-together?

Originally posted by yaah
Most people live close to the school. There are some who live farther away (i.e. Boston) because of family, etc.

Worcester is cheaper than Boston, but probably more expensive than the Springfield area. Some people pay as little as a few hundred dollars per month, others >$1000. It can be cheaper if you live with others and rent an old house (like one floor of a triple decker, part of another house, etc. There are certain areas where more students tend to live, like around the Elm Park area. Pretty safe overall, there are some questionable places but lots of options. Parking generally isn't much of a problem either.

What the rower said about interviews is pretty accurate - most interviews are with faculty members who take it pretty casual, leaving a lot of the initiative on you for asking questions, etc.
 
Originally posted by BrownieMasshole
If I decide to go to UMass, where would you recommend I look for housing? Is there a website listing housing? Should I wait until the June 5th matriculating students get-together?

You can wait, especially, if you want a roommate. There are enough places to go around. If you can't wait, you can stop by the school and check out the postings in the lobby, around the mailboxes, lounge, etc.

I don't know of any specific websites, but www.telegram.com has a lot of info, and I am sure a quick search of other sites would give you options.

The admissions office might have some information too, not sure.

I would wait until the get-together. They include housing as one of the topics they discuss.
 
Thanks for the info. What kind of places could be had for 500/month? 600? (gasp) 400?

Originally posted by yaah
You can wait, especially, if you want a roommate. There are enough places to go around. If you can't wait, you can stop by the school and check out the postings in the lobby, around the mailboxes, lounge, etc.

I don't know of any specific websites, but www.telegram.com has a lot of info, and I am sure a quick search of other sites would give you options.

The admissions office might have some information too, not sure.

I would wait until the get-together. They include housing as one of the topics they discuss.
 
Hey all! Congrats to those of you who got in, and to those of you still waiting...hang in there! I didn't hear until May last year.

It's been about 8 months since I last visited SDN. Nice to see everyone still helps each other!

Speaking of which, anyone with questions should feel free to email me ( [email protected] ).

-tedstriker
 
Someone posted something on another thread that said something to the effect of UMass grading being the equivalent of pass/fail. Not true, unless it has changed and no one told us.

Years 1-2: Graded on Fail/Pass/Honors
Honors is usually a cumulative average in the course of above 90, although for some courses where grading is easier (genetics) it can be above 95. It doesn't go below 90 though. It can be tough with some courses where there are lots of tests. Passing is usually above 70 or so. Most people pass. Maybe 15-20% get honors. You are allowed one "marginal pass" grade on an exam before being forced to repeat a class.

Years 3-4 Graded on Fail/Below Expected/Expected/Above Expected/Outstanding.
Different courses grade differently. My year, no one got an outstanding in OB. But about 30% got it in pediatrics. Others fell somewhere in between. Generally, most of the grade is based on evaluations, and about 10%, perhaps more for some, on the end of course test. Some clerkships have an additional factor in there like a paper (psych) or a project (medicine) or oral exams or standardized patient exams. 3-4th year grades are exceedingly subjective. I got outstanding in some courses where I put in not too much effort, and expecteds in courses where I put forth the most effort. 4th year it is a little bit easier to get outstandings, as perhaps they have lower expectations for effort, I'm not sure. In the 3rd year clerkships, the majority usually falls into the "expected" bracket. It's tough to get a below expected for a final grade unless you don't show up a lot. There is a very fine line between outstanding and above expected. I guess the average % fall somewhere around 30%/55%/15% for expected/Above expected/outstanding.

UMass doesn't rank students, or at least they don't tell us. AOA is pretty subjective and not really too dependent on grades. 3rd year grades are most important, USMLEs don't count at all.
 
Is honors based on a curve? Is it a set percentile of the class? Or is it based purely on a predetermined score?
 
Thank you yaah and co. for answering so many questions! I've got a thousand more! 😀

How many hours a day are you in lecture (1st and 2nd)? Did you go to your classes? How would you describe your relationship with professors?

How do you and most of your friends study? Is there a supplemental lecture note service? A good investment?

Specifically, how does (or doesn't) a UMass education prepare you and your friends for STEP I? Are there any private, third party courses offered nearbye (I know of the 1st aid books and Qbank, but I've heard about a Kaplan prep class similar to the one they put together for MCAT students).

Does the school give you any "downtime" to prepare for the exam?

How manageable is the courseload?

Do EXAMS come in blocks or are they spread out like, physio this week and biochem the next?

How competitive do things become in your clinical years? How fairly have you been evaluated (you said the evaluations were extremely subjective...), who does the bulk of your evaluations?

For students leaning toward a career in research and academic medicine, what are the pros and cons of attending UMass?

For students leaning toward a career in some highly competitive specialty or sub-specialty, is UMass the place or are you better off at the ivory tower city school?

Why would you pick UMass over a school ranked higher by those know-it-alls at US News and World Report?

If you have friends at other medical schools, what things about UMass make you GLAD you chose to go to school there. When you talk to friends at other schools, what sort of things do you wish you had (or didn't have) at UMass that they have at their schools?

How's parking first and second years?

What kind of a social life do most first and second years have?

What kind of clubs and activities are you involved with?
 
Originally posted by Super Rob
Thank you yaah and co. for answering so many questions! I've got a thousand more! 😀

How many hours a day are you in lecture (1st and 2nd)? Did you go to your classes? How would you describe your relationship with professors?
Oy that's a lot o' ?s. I might not make it through to the end. After all, I'm on consult service now! A lot of this is probably posted somewhere else so if you don't like the answer look at my old posts.
1-2 years, classes start 8am go until 1230 or 1, then a couple of days a week there are afternoon events, usually small group sessions (learning how to interview, etc). They used to have one morning off per week to go visit with a preceptor (an IM doc, pediatrician,etc), not sure if this is still done or people go in afternoons. Professors are very friendly, good relationships, very open to having students come talk to them. Some get upset when class attendance is subpar.
How do you and most of your friends study? Is there a supplemental lecture note service? A good investment?
Some people spend lots of time in the library. There are also study rooms around. All lectures are videotaped and available for viewing (except for a couple where the professor refuses to have his lectures videotaped - copyright issues or something). No charge. Some people make up notes, in addition to the notes provided which are substantial and good enough, and these people often mass email their study notes or summaries. No $$$ changes hands.
Specifically, how does (or doesn't) a UMass education prepare you and your friends for STEP I? Are there any private, third party courses offered nearbye (I know of the 1st aid books and Qbank, but I've heard about a Kaplan prep class similar to the one they put together for MCAT students).
Most people pass step I. There is a Kaplan place across the street. I never used Kaplan so I'm not sure. The professors have review sessions towards the end of 2nd year for USMLE topics. (no $$$ changes hands). If you study correctly, you do well on step I, everyone has their own way of doing things.
Does the school give you any "downtime" to prepare for the exam?
You can take it whenever you want. Classes end in early may, 3rd year starts July 1. To wit, free time or studying time, however you look at it.
How manageable is the courseload?
IMHO, very manageable. People start complaining towards the end of 2nd year because they get behind from not going to all the lectures, not studying enough, whatever. Study a bit every day and you'll do fine.
Do EXAMS come in blocks or are they spread out like, physio this week and biochem the next?
Generally exams occur over a similar time period, but sometimes they are spread out. You usually have a bunch of exams every couple of months, depending on which courses are going on, etc. So after a couple of months there will be an anatomy exam and a biochem exam. Usually not more than 3 per week. A day off between tests. It's always changing so I am not sure how it is now, but it's manageable.
How competitive do things become in your clinical years? How fairly have you been evaluated (you said the evaluations were extremely subjective...), who does the bulk of your evaluations?
I think they are subjective. Residents do a lot of evaluations, attendings do some, depending on the service. Some rotations you choose who to give your evaluations to (OB/GYN), in others they just give them to everyone you worked with (surgery). It still is not competitive at all. No one is ever competing for grades. If you do well, you do well. There are gunners like everywhere else, but no one is trying to outdo anyone else. It's more just a product of personalities. Some people are just anal from day one of life and have to have an extensive clipboard collection and color coded patient lists with references to research studies. Evaluations are based on 1) Your enthusiasm, 2) Working as part of a team, 3) Ability to apply knowledge. I feel, however, that knowledge is minimized during 3rd year grades, and things like enthusiasm and "playing the game" are more important. That's my opinion. It's all debatable. Basically, though, if you show up on time, do the work, volunteer for certain tasks, demonstrate your interest in the field and your intelligence, you will do well. And keep a smile on your face.
For students leaning toward a career in research and academic medicine, what are the pros and cons of attending UMass?
Like I said you can basically go to most any residency program you want from here. Lots of people get involved with research or extracurriculars, lots don't really do much else. There are always lots of research projects around. Probably not on the scale of a place like Johns Hopkins but when you are a med student, it realyl doesn't matter. I wouldn't let this influence your decision much unless you have a specific lab in mind you want to work with.
For students leaning toward a career in some highly competitive specialty or sub-specialty, is UMass the place or are you better off at the ivory tower city school?
Go wherever you think you can perform the best. Don't pay attention to match lists and all that garbage. People from here go to wherever they want in the fields they want. UMass hasn't had a optho grad in a few years, but that's because no one has wanted it. There are always ortho grads, and people going to the "best" residency programs, whatever that means. People around the country have a lot more respect for UMass and its students than you would think. Especially in Boston. Residency PDs love UMass students because they do very well in residency and have great clinical skills. I guess you stand a better chance of going to a Harvard residency if you go to Harvard, but that's true anywhere. Like the UMass ER program which is a tough match to get, but UMass grads always fill a lot of the spots. The most important thing is to be a good student, not to be a student at a "good" school. Of course people will disagree with me. There are innumerable "rankings" slaves who refuse to abide by anything less than the gospel according to USNews. These people are full of crap and have no idea what they are talking about. The reason they are obsessed about the highly ranked schools is that these schools are the only ones who they have ever considered.

Why would you pick UMass over a school ranked higher by those know-it-alls at US News and World Report?
How long do you have? Let's see....tuition; cheaper to live here; residents and attendings are wonderful teachers; people come here so that they can teach students and residents, not so that they can be called "professor;" school is growing rapidly in regards to research; the student body is wonderful, not competitive at all, very cooperative, and is made up of lots of real people and not professional students; you get better clinical training; that's enough for now.
If you have friends at other medical schools, what things about UMass make you GLAD you chose to go to school there. When you talk to friends at other schools, what sort of things do you wish you had (or didn't have) at UMass that they have at their schools?
See the above. Drawbacks, let's see. There are really not many. I think the places to the east often have more intense and cutting edge research, but as I said that isn't something med students should really concern themselves with because you don't need to be splitting the atom or curing cancer when you're a med student. You need to learn how to be a doctor, and perhaps learn how to do good research. So there are mentors here that can help. Maybe not as many and the culture of research is not quite so ingrained, but it's certainly there for anyone who wants it. It's also a state school and hospital thus, is at the whim (somewhat) of the legislature and governor. So there are some old parts to the hospital and things can take a while to get done.
How's parking first and second years?

What kind of a social life do most first and second years have?

What kind of clubs and activities are you involved with? [/B]
Parking is in flux. It's tight right now but still very cheap. It might add to your commute. A new garage is going up so things are changing. Social life is fine, lots of interaction, lots of possible clubs and activities, the same as you would find at any school. Everyone is from massachusetts so they all know the area.

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Wow, thank you so very much for all of your input. I just received my summer research fellowship packet in the mail and I'm putting stuff together for financial aid. I am really excited to have UMass as an option and it is becoming more and more difficult to justify paying 20k to 30k extra each year to attend a private school (will my salary really be THAT much higher? The training simply cannot be that much better... probably inferior training with an expensive name attached to it). Haven't made my mind up, but I am really excited about UMass!
 
Hey super rob, if you get into UMass and you don't come, I may seriously have to come over there and beat you senseless for making me write all that for nothing! 😉

You say, "will my salary be that much higher?" Are you suggesting you would potentially have a higher salary if you go to Harvard? That's not how it works! You take a lower salary for the privilege of working at such a place!

Seriously, though, clinical training is not all it's cracked up to be at these ivory tower places. Of course, some people will come out well so don't take that as gospel. But people like us and respect us, which is a good combination.

I think, with that last post, I may have posted more words in 1 message than some of these uber-posters with their 4000 posts have in their entire posting lives! All for you, Super Rob. You better live up to your name! Otherwise, I'm sending him after you:
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