I got an IV from this program but cant seem to find a lot of info.
Does anyone have any input?
Does anyone have any input?
UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson [ Camden ] Medical School Program
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Sure, I graduated from that program. Faebinder's in it now.
-the head of the psychiatry department (Tom Newmark) has very impressive credentials and is a great teacher. He is a former NJPA president, is well connected with several other programs, is prominent in the sport psychiatry, and is working to advance that area. He also has specializes in conversion disorder and hypnosis.
The PD is a child psychiatrist who graduated from the program and did her fellowship at Johns Hopkins.
The program is split into 2 locations. One is in Camden (obviously). The other is in Atlantic City.
There are differing aspects to both locations. Both locations have the same lectures and grand rounds. the Camden program works in Cooper Hospital, the AC program works at Atlantic Regional Medical Center.
Workloads are different between the 2 locations. Calls are all nighters at Camden. At ARMC, yes you are on duty all night, but you get to go home (though they will beep you for admissions--1/3 you're pretty much up all night, 1/3 you're going to be woken up to the point where you don't like it, but you'll get enough sleep-5 hrs, 1/3 you're barely bothered if at all). Since you get to go home, you are expected to work a full day the next day. (IMHO that's better than all night in the hospital--even on a bad night).
Clinical exposure also differs. ARMC has an involuntary and voluntary unit, a PACT team, acute partial program, and a crisis center. Camden has a voluntary unit only, though you also get ER exposure. The involuntary unit allows you to see involuntary patients which has differing extremes of presentation. It also gives you more legal exposure because you will be doing a lot more petitions for involuntary commitment, and can see the court process about 1-2x a month (provided there's patients to keep committed which does not always happen). Several of the attendings at the Camden location are better versed in psychotherapy (psychoanalysis, hypnosis, CBT) than the ARMC location.
Camden is a university hospital-with several residencies and a medical school which increases the interesting cases you will see on the CL service. ARMC is a community hospital with only one other residency program rotating through there.
There is research going on--its more organized at Camden. There was pretty much no organized research going on at ARMC. It is possible to try to do some research at Camden while you are at ARMC, but its harder to do because of the distance factor.
-the head of the psychiatry department (Tom Newmark) has very impressive credentials and is a great teacher. He is a former NJPA president, is well connected with several other programs, is prominent in the sport psychiatry, and is working to advance that area. He also has specializes in conversion disorder and hypnosis.
The PD is a child psychiatrist who graduated from the program and did her fellowship at Johns Hopkins.
The program is split into 2 locations. One is in Camden (obviously). The other is in Atlantic City.
There are differing aspects to both locations. Both locations have the same lectures and grand rounds. the Camden program works in Cooper Hospital, the AC program works at Atlantic Regional Medical Center.
Workloads are different between the 2 locations. Calls are all nighters at Camden. At ARMC, yes you are on duty all night, but you get to go home (though they will beep you for admissions--1/3 you're pretty much up all night, 1/3 you're going to be woken up to the point where you don't like it, but you'll get enough sleep-5 hrs, 1/3 you're barely bothered if at all). Since you get to go home, you are expected to work a full day the next day. (IMHO that's better than all night in the hospital--even on a bad night).
Clinical exposure also differs. ARMC has an involuntary and voluntary unit, a PACT team, acute partial program, and a crisis center. Camden has a voluntary unit only, though you also get ER exposure. The involuntary unit allows you to see involuntary patients which has differing extremes of presentation. It also gives you more legal exposure because you will be doing a lot more petitions for involuntary commitment, and can see the court process about 1-2x a month (provided there's patients to keep committed which does not always happen). Several of the attendings at the Camden location are better versed in psychotherapy (psychoanalysis, hypnosis, CBT) than the ARMC location.
Camden is a university hospital-with several residencies and a medical school which increases the interesting cases you will see on the CL service. ARMC is a community hospital with only one other residency program rotating through there.
There is research going on--its more organized at Camden. There was pretty much no organized research going on at ARMC. It is possible to try to do some research at Camden while you are at ARMC, but its harder to do because of the distance factor.
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Hey Whopper, that information is great, thanks!
As you graduated from the Camden, do you have any experience with the Stratford site? I believe it's out of Our Lady of Lourdes. I can't find anything about this program
Thanks again
As you graduated from the Camden, do you have any experience with the Stratford site? I believe it's out of Our Lady of Lourdes. I can't find anything about this program
Thanks again
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The Stratford site is a DO program, though they do accept MD applicants.
Can't tell you much about this program, in fact several don't even know it exists even if they are smack in the same area as that program. When people talk about UMDNJ, they say "hey there's 3 programs, one in Newark, one in New Brunswick and the other in Camden."
Why this happens I don't know other than that there's MD schools attached to the 3, and a DO school attached to the Stratford location. Several people are under an impression that because its a DO school, they can't consider it if they have an MD. I asked the program director at Stratford about this, and he said they do accept MDs.
The PD at Stratford wrote a book on I believe CBT. I'm not sure because I saw his presentation on the topic from his book over a year ago.
Given that this location was close to the Camden one, I called their chief while I was 1 of 2 chiefs at UMDNJ Cooper (I was the chief at the Atlantic City site). I asked the chief if there was anything we could mutually do together--e.g. collaborate on projects, an APA trip etc. The guy was indifferent, and I got the impression that nothing was going to happen between us, and nothing did.
I can tell you that Camden gets, well it gets Camden patients--usually poor substance abusers and several malingerers. The AC site gets a good mix since ARMC services the entire county which includes wealthy people all the way down to the homeless. There's wealthy towns in the county, and there's an urban city, and there's plenty of rural areas. I've mentioned this before in other threads, IMHO you will get a better demographic exposure in a hospital that services an entire county. AC also gets tourists from several states away, several of them ended up in AC directly because of their mental illness (e.g. their psychiatrist literally told them to get on a casino bus because that psychiatrist didn't want to deal with the patient anymore).
Can't tell you much about this program, in fact several don't even know it exists even if they are smack in the same area as that program. When people talk about UMDNJ, they say "hey there's 3 programs, one in Newark, one in New Brunswick and the other in Camden."
Why this happens I don't know other than that there's MD schools attached to the 3, and a DO school attached to the Stratford location. Several people are under an impression that because its a DO school, they can't consider it if they have an MD. I asked the program director at Stratford about this, and he said they do accept MDs.
The PD at Stratford wrote a book on I believe CBT. I'm not sure because I saw his presentation on the topic from his book over a year ago.
Given that this location was close to the Camden one, I called their chief while I was 1 of 2 chiefs at UMDNJ Cooper (I was the chief at the Atlantic City site). I asked the chief if there was anything we could mutually do together--e.g. collaborate on projects, an APA trip etc. The guy was indifferent, and I got the impression that nothing was going to happen between us, and nothing did.
I can tell you that Camden gets, well it gets Camden patients--usually poor substance abusers and several malingerers. The AC site gets a good mix since ARMC services the entire county which includes wealthy people all the way down to the homeless. There's wealthy towns in the county, and there's an urban city, and there's plenty of rural areas. I've mentioned this before in other threads, IMHO you will get a better demographic exposure in a hospital that services an entire county. AC also gets tourists from several states away, several of them ended up in AC directly because of their mental illness (e.g. their psychiatrist literally told them to get on a casino bus because that psychiatrist didn't want to deal with the patient anymore).
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I did my medschool rotation there, and liked it. It was one of my favorite rotations.
I'd say its an upper mid tier program. You get the university program name, there are good teachers. Its not a top program, but a good one. The atmosphere is not malignant. UMDNJ in Camden has several checks and balances in place to make sure residents are not working beyond the 80 hr limit, and that programs are following the 80 hr rule.
I'd say its an upper mid tier program. You get the university program name, there are good teachers. Its not a top program, but a good one. The atmosphere is not malignant. UMDNJ in Camden has several checks and balances in place to make sure residents are not working beyond the 80 hr limit, and that programs are following the 80 hr rule.
