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Undergraduate GPA and the Match

Discussion in 'Medical Students - MD' started by OCPreMed, Apr 30, 2007.

  1. OCPreMed

    OCPreMed Member 7+ Year Member

    Jun 3, 2006
    Los Angeles
    I searched for this and found no answers thus here it is..

    Will my undergraduate GPA have any role in matching? My gut feeling and intuition tells me it ought not to because it will be at least 4 years old and irrelevant at the point in time I am going to match... however, I have come to the realization that a lot of irrelevant things are taken into consideration throughout medical admissions processes...

    If anyone is wondering how come I even care to bring this up, I am fortunate to be accepted to the class of 2011 and I am currently finishing up my last semester.. I could coast through with some B's or take it seriously and finish with all A's..

    Thanks in advance for all of your feedback. :thumbup:
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  3. Tired

    Tired Fading away 7+ Year Member

    Dec 12, 2006
  4. browniegirl86

    browniegirl86 10+ Year Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    Portland, OR
    Definitely not.
  5. Dunce

    Dunce Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    May 15, 2006
    Does the OC in your name stand for Orange County or Obsessive-Compulsive?

    just kidding
  6. Critical Mass

    Critical Mass Guest

    Feb 23, 2007
    Once you start medical school, the grim reaper visits your home and consumes your undergraduate transcript.

    Too bad I can't take my MCAT score with me since prospects don't look great for my step 1.
  7. lattimer13

    lattimer13 good boy! 10+ Year Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Pacific NW
    FYI: some specialties do require undergrad transcripts...i had to send 2 official copies of undergrad transcripts, however most of the programs don't require them.
  8. Guile

    Guile 1K Member 5+ Year Member

    Jul 26, 2006
    The believe the SF Match (ophtho, GU, maybe neurosurgery...someone else will chime in) require an undergraduate transcript. However I can't imagine it plays a huge role in how you match.
  9. Meeher

    Meeher 2+ Year Member

    Nov 9, 2006
    Whooooops. Maybe I should actually care about this semester then :D . Too late! Last final is in a day.
  10. Tired

    Tired Fading away 7+ Year Member

    Dec 12, 2006
    Here's what the CAS (Common Application Service) Instructions for the SF Match say:

    "The CAS procedure makes you (the applicant) responsible for assembling ALL support
    documents. You are REQUIRED to submit the following documents to consider your
    application COMPLETE:
    • Completed and signed CAS Application Forms
    • CAS Distribution List and Payment
    • College Transcript(s)
    • Medical School Transcript(s)
    • USMLE Scores or equivalent score reports
    • ECFMG Certificate (applicable to International Graduates)
    • Three (3) letters of reference
    • Dean’s letter (applicable to Graduates)"

    I will also point out again that, on my Ortho interviews, I was asked for my undergrad GPA, MCAT score, and even SAT score. And no, as far as I can tell, no one seems to know what importance (if any) programs place on these numbers.
  11. Guile

    Guile 1K Member 5+ Year Member

    Jul 26, 2006
    What goes into the Dean's letter that's not in 3 letters of reference?
  12. diosa428

    diosa428 SDN Angel 5+ Year Member

    Feb 24, 2005
    The LORs are typically from doctors that you worked under (or from Drs/PhDs that you did research for). They usually talk about how you did on your rotations, and are more like LORs you'd get from a prof for med school. The dean's letter typically contains more info about your academic performance, ranking (if your school has it), etc.
  13. LJDHC05

    LJDHC05 Former Chicken Slayer 5+ Year Member

    Jun 23, 2005

    Coast your face off and have fun while you still can
  14. Tired

    Tired Fading away 7+ Year Member

    Dec 12, 2006
    The Dean's Letter is monster, and is nothing like the "Premed Composite Letter". It contains a summary of your grades, clinical evaluations, personal motivation, honors and awards, and overall explanation of the grading scheme your school uses. It is not a rubber stamp talking about how great you are; many people actually end up with mediocre or even negative Dean's Letters.

    At my school, written evaluations from every course and rotation were included in the letter verbatim.
  15. Tristy

    Tristy BairesYarnCreation @ etsy 5+ Year Member

    Oct 5, 2004
    In my happy place
    As far as I know (lowly MSI), no. It would be great if they did though! :laugh:
  16. crimsonkid85

    crimsonkid85 7+ Year Member

    Jul 3, 2006
    wait i don't understand. How is that different from a 'premed composite letter?' In my experience, my premedical advisory committee's cover letter (referred to here as the cover letter, or Dean's letter) talks about exactly the points that you mentioned. Before they write the letter for us, they have us fill out a HUUUUGE questionnaire about med school. In the letter, they talk about our personal experiences, motivations, which classes made what impact on us, etc.

    Ok, it doesn't include evaluations from every course, but it does contain snippets of every LOR that you submit to the premed office. In addition, the letter doesn't recommend everyone equally for medical school--there is definately a hierarchy of 'enthusiasm' in the level of recommendation each person receives.

    In this way, aren't the two very similar? I'm just wondering...
  17. Tired

    Tired Fading away 7+ Year Member

    Dec 12, 2006
    I guess from that perspective, yes, it is similar. I was thinking of the premed composite letter as a amalgamation of your LORs. The Dean's letter has nothing to do with your LoRs, and information from them is not contained in the letter (my school, anyway).

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