UNECOM Discussion Thread 2008-2009

[Mere]

Ugh....yesss. I'm in the second quartile so I'm really hoping I have a chance of getting a spot in the class in August. Its so frustrating because I don't know whether I should start looking for jobs for this coming year or possibly reapply!? I hate not having any clue what I'm doing with my life!?!

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[SarahJ]

A dog doesn't go to the bathroom in the toilet. And never learns to. They need someone to be home to play with them, take care of them, feed them, bathe them. Unless you want to take them to doggie day care (and I think most of those places require at least intermediate dog training completed).

Haha, all interesting points, although I think I could create a much more persuasive list on why caring for a person is more time consuming. I have a much younger brother and even though I have two parents to help, I still find him to be 100 times more work than my dog. I mean, geeze, his homework help takes forever, I have to cook his meals (I can't just throw kibble in his bowl once a day), I have to clean his dishes, and his laundry- so glad dogs don't wear clothes! Then there is all the time it takes for me to talk to him about his day, drive him to visit friends, deal with conflicts that arise with his school work and offer general education on how to become a well rounded human being. I'm really getting exhausted just thinking about it...

 

[NCdodoc]

Hi,

I just got off the waiting list! Is there anyone still looking for a roommate or have a room to rent? Let me know!

thanks,
Kate

 

[Asystole]

Hi everyone-

I just withdrew my acceptance (~1 hr. ago). Good luck to all still waiting!

 

[Amaranthinemoxi]

Hey all!

Just got off the waitlist today!!! SO SO SO EXCITED! Does anyone need a roommate?

Looking forward to seeing everyone there in August!

 

[nurtitionist 1]

where were you in the wait list? High,middle.....

 

[Amaranthinemoxi]

The ranking email had said that I was in the first quartile. When I called last week they had told me that I was in the bottom half of the top of the waitlist. So it looks like they were chugging through that list just fine

 

[matlabsux]

i think unecom will go very deep into its wait-list. the school is likely to be considered prohibitively expensive for many pre-meds and as a result student who have a chance to save about 20-30k a year will go for cheaper, if not really greener, pastures.

 

[ShyRem]

I would definitely encourage people to go for cheaper pastures. Especially given the political agenda of "health care reform" -- aka decrease in reimbursement rates.

UNE is very expensive, and the tuition increases every year whether the university needs it or not.

 

[Murphy Brown]

I thought UNE was on par with other DO schools. Is it not? The tution is around 40 K a year. The cheapest DO school is LECOM but after that, most are in the upper 30's or higher, right?

 

[matlabsux]

the 2008-2009 tuition is $46k, plus an additional 15-20k for fees and living expenses. Current students say the tuition goes up about 6% a year, every year. expect to pay over 50k/yr by 2010. Ridiculous yes but if its really what you want....

 

[ShyRem]

UNECOM's students have one of the highest debt loads in the country of ANY school. There are few scholarships or grants available. Not saying anythig good or bad about the school, but you should know the debt you're getting into. The loans are definitely there to be had, but be aware you're going to be in a heap of debt at the end of the journey. Stafford loans don't even come close to covering the COA (they don't even cover the tuition anymore).

With the possibility of health care reform looming around the corner, everyone should be aware of the cost of their health care education.

 

[SarahJ]

haha! This comment really quieted the forum. We currently have a sytem where there are built in incentives for all the wrong things. Doctors are compensated for procedures, running expensive tests with expensive technology and completing emergency surgery while preventative measures, such as taking the time to educate the patient about nutrition and excercise before the heart attack, are not well compenated if at all. Changing the way the system rewards/ compensates physicians to one that values prevention is not necessarily going to lead to decreasing salaries, although it may for some of the higher paid specialties- but come on, should those specialists really be making that much anyway? Like most of Obama's reform ideas, the majority of doctors will probably see no change in salary, or increase, while the wealthiest few may see a decrease. Personally, I think its a great idea.

 

[raraxavis]

I'm with you, Sarah . We've been needing an overhaul for a long time, and even if this one's not perfect, at least we're going in the right direction.

 

[Tuckermans]

haha! This comment really quieted the forum. We currently have a sytem where there are built in incentives for all the wrong things. Doctors are compensated for procedures, running expensive tests with expensive technology and completing emergency surgery while preventative measures, such as taking the time to educate the patient about nutrition and excercise before the heart attack, are not well compenated if at all. Changing the way the system rewards/ compensates physicians to one that values prevention is not necessarily going to lead to decreasing salaries, although it may for some of the higher paid specialties- but come on, should those specialists really be making that much anyway? Like most of Obama's reform ideas, the majority of doctors will probably see no change in salary, or increase, while the wealthiest few may see a decrease. Personally, I think its a great idea.

Just to throw my hat into the ring here, I both agree and disagree. While health care is in need of some pretty fantastic reform, I am forced to consider aspects of this program that have not yet been discussed on this forum. Primarily, the cost of this new health care reform. The sources that I found put the cost at around 55-65 billion dollars a year. That is a lot of money, and in the end who knows exactly how much it will end up costing (Government programs/ideas are known for many things, but saving money is not one of them). Obama recently gave almost a trillion dollars to "jump start" the economy. Between his plans for health care reform, education overall and an increased presence in Afghanistan and the "elephant in the room" that is social security, I am very skeptical on how he intends to pay for this. We as a nation are also in 11 trillion dollars of debt and that just does not pay itself off.
So, I am once again drawn to how he intends to pay for this plan. The answer is simple. He is going to (and has already started) to tax the pants off the upper middle class and the upper class. So, while your salary might not go down a dramatic amount as a primary care doctor, your tax burden is going to go through the roof. In my opinion now is not the time to be inacting new and far reaching programs, now is the time to save money and pay for the obligations we have inherited from previous poor leadership. I wish the issue were as simple as just reforming health care, but in my mind it is far more complicated.

 

[SarahJ]

If we don't do something now about the wasteful spending in the health care system it is literally going to blow up in our faces over the next few decades. Its not a possibility, its like 100% yes, when the baby boomers become geriatric patients if we have not changed something there is not going to be enough money to pay for all of the care that we'll need to offer. There is not enough money anywhere to pay for it- and the cost is going to keep going up every year. Health care reform is the only option, its unfortunate but thats where we are right now. The only argument thats really worth having is what kind.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_administration/eop/cea/chair-remarks-06082009/

 

[Tuckermans]

I absolutely agree that health care needs some serious work. As it stands now we have a system that is bankrupting people while managing to leave some of its most in need populations without the basic essentials. I could not agree more.

However, my problem arises from the current administrations demonstrated philosophy towards problem solving. The Government seems very much willing to try to fix everything by spending large amounts of money on it (the economy, Detroit automakers, social security, the war in afganistan, education and now health care). I feel that the more prudent solution when the nation is in 11 trillion dollars of debt would be to identify the things we must spend money on and things we can save money on. Your point that health care should be one in the spend category is well taken, however there must also be things in the save column as well. Thats all.

Look forward to meeting everyone!

 

[Krisss17]

Well, had not the previous administration gotten us into this giant debt hole, who knows what could have been done if the current administration was able to start at ground level, (not the 20,000 leagues under the sea that Bush left us in).

 

[Tuckermans]

Well, had not the previous administration gotten us into this giant debt hole, who knows what could have been done if the current administration was able to start at ground level, (not the 20,000 leagues under the sea that Bush left us in).

Agreed, but at some point you have to acknowledge how crappy it is that they did that and move on. Its not fair, but that is the way that it is. Is it fair that Obama gets hampered from his agenda by a 11 trillion dollar debt accrued by previous presidents? No. However, is it responsible to send the country into even more debt? Absolutely not.

 

[Krisss17]

Agreed, but at some point you have to acknowledge how crappy it is that they did that and move on. Its not fair, but that is the way that it is. Is it fair that Obama gets hampered from his agenda by a 11 trillion dollar debt accrued by previous presidents? No. However, is it responsible to send the country into even more debt? Absolutely not.

True but considering the condition Obama inherited, how and where would he get the funds? The money has to come from somewhere...so where?

 

[raraxavis]

So! Who's going rafting?

 

[BoSox248]

the 2008-2009 tuition is $46k, plus an additional 15-20k for fees and living expenses. Current students say the tuition goes up about 6% a year, every year. expect to pay over 50k/yr by 2010. Ridiculous yes but if its really what you want....

where exactly did you get that number? It wasn't 46K. It's 43k this year and it definitely didn't go down...

 

[Tuckermans]

So! Who's going rafting?

I will be there. And Im dragging my poor girlfriend along with me

 

[Mere]

I finally got off the waitlist! AHHHH!!! I'm sooo excited! Anyone have any suggestions for finding apartments and houses up around school? I can't wait to meet everyone!!!

 

[Tuckermans]

I finally got off the waitlist! AHHHH!!! I'm sooo excited! Anyone have any suggestions for finding apartments and houses up around school? I can't wait to meet everyone!!!

Congrats!

 

[Amaranthinemoxi]

Mere: CONGRATSSSS

raraxavis: MEEEEE!!!!! (super excited!!)

When are people moving up to Maine (if they haven't already?)

Also, who is going on the fun run?

 

[DJA222]

Can't wait to go rafting with all you SDNers!!!

Is anyone still looking for a roomate? I found an amazing house 1/2 mile past UNECOM on Hills Beach Road. It's on the ocean, has a huge deck, new kitchen, amazing back yard, and two extra rooms for offices. It would be $600 per month between two people.

I'm a really laid back and easy to live with. If you're interested let me know ASAP

 

[SarahJ]

Hi everyone,

My roommate just found out that she has to defer for a year, so I am suddenly caught without someone. I have a cute 2 BR apartment, nice and spacious, FULLY furnished (including the second bedroom) with a really nice in ground pool in the back. The place is on pool street in Biddeford, so right down the street from school. Rent is $460 a month including heat and hot water. Cable/internet is $35 a month. I would prefer to live with a girl- if you are interested please email me! I'll be up there from thursday through sunday so if you would like to come see the place you can stop by anytime.

Thanks!!
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[Tuckermans]

That was an intense day.....

 

[ShyRem]

first day? Next year it will seem like a piece of cake and you'll wonder why you ever thought it was intense or difficult. You're in the honeymoon phase right now - and UNE eases you in gently.

 

[Tuckermans]

first day? Next year it will seem like a piece of cake and you'll wonder why you ever thought it was intense or difficult. You're in the honeymoon phase right now - and UNE eases you in gently.

Just next year? Right now that first day isn't looking all that bad

 

[ShyRem]