Unemployment benefits

[Obelix]

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For those of you who worked before going to dental school, did you or do you plan on using your unemployment benefits to make ends meet in dental school? I am assuming being a full-time student does not count as being unemployed, but how about during the summers before and after your first year?
I have no idea how it works and if it would be advised to take advantage of that now.
Thanks for your input!

 

[netsn06]

For those of you who worked before going to dental school, did you or do you plan on using your unemployment benefits to make ends meet in dental school? I am assuming being a full-time student does not count as being unemployed, but how about during the summers before and after your first year?
I have no idea how it works and if it would be advised to take advantage of that now.
Thanks for your input!

we cant collect the summer after year 1. they calculate eligibility based on the amount of hours u worked the quarter prior to the time u applied for unemployment insurance. so this whole upcoming year starting in the fall, u wouldnt have worked, and thus cannot pass the threshold number of hours they require for the quarter prior to the summer (when u first plan on collecting it).

in addition, yes we are considered full-time students and that fact would also negate our eligibility to collect. yes, we were informed that the unemployment agencies are too busy to check up on all of us for this status if we are taking a class or two here and there, but as a full-time dental student it's just too risky to even try and get away w/ that.

hope this helps.

 

[Jone]

if you voluntarily left your job, you are not eligible for unemployment benefits.

For those of you who worked before going to dental school, did you or do you plan on using your unemployment benefits to make ends meet in dental school? I am assuming being a full-time student does not count as being unemployed, but how about during the summers before and after your first year?
I have no idea how it works and if it would be advised to take advantage of that now.
Thanks for your input!

 

[makushin]

we cant collect the summer after year 1. they calculate eligibility based on the amount of hours u worked the quarter prior to the time u applied for unemployment insurance. so this whole upcoming year starting in the fall, u wouldnt have worked, and thus cannot pass the threshold number of hours they require for the quarter prior to the summer (when u first plan on collecting it).

in addition, yes we are considered full-time students and that fact would also negate our eligibility to collect. yes, we were informed that the unemployment agencies are too busy to check up on all of us for this status if we are taking a class or two here and there, but as a full-time dental student it's just too risky to even try and get away w/ that.

hope this helps.

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[12YearOldKid]

Maybe you guys don't realize this, but filing for unemployment negatively affects your previous employer. This especially hurts if your employer was a small business (like a dental office).

If you weren't legitimately fired or laid off, it is a pretty shady thing to file for unemployment -- even if you can "get away with it".

 

[TucsonDDS]

In many states you can collect if you voluntarily quit, you just have to make up a reason saying that it was too stressful or something like that. However, I think that you would be a piece of sh1t if you did that to an employer because it comes out of their pocket and I hope that when you are a dentist you have a front office person work for a day (as long as they are on the payrole (even for a day), quit and then file an unemployment claim against you. If you want to supplement your income how about getting a job. For some nice unemployment stories you can do a search over at dentaltown.

 

[Obelix]

ok, i just wanted some information and i see some answers insinuating other things... 😕

no one here said we wanted to file a shady claim or make up excuses to get additional income through unemployment! my coworker was laid off last year and was able to get unemployment while he continued his MBA. I was wondering if that was something I could also benefit from if I were to quit work early and prepare to go to dental school. Now I know I can't qualify for that if I leave voluntarily. end of story. no need to read into this so much.

but thanks for info. I didn't know it would affect my current employer (not a dental office in case you are wondering). I thought the money was coming from the government.

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

I thought the money was coming from the government.

Who cares, then? They can just print up extra to cover you...

You'll understand why your question wasn't met with enthusiasm once you start treating patients in dental school. We have all become oversensitized to the abuse of welfare programs. It is not uncommon for Medicaid patients to be driving extremely nice cars, talking on expensive cell phones, etc, yet complaining when Medicaid doesn't cover a crown. Not long ago, I had a patient giving me a sob story about how she couldn't afford to have a tooth extracted. I almost started to feel sorry for her (OK, I didn't) when I looked down and saw that she was wearing a pair of Diesel shoes. I'm not accusing you of trying to abuse the system, but that's how it looks. That's why you got some negative responses to your question.

 

[makushin]

Who cares, then? They can just print up extra to cover you...

You'll understand why your question wasn't met with enthusiasm once you start treating patients in dental school. We have all become oversensitized to the abuse of welfare programs. It is not uncommon for Medicaid patients to be driving extremely nice cars, talking on expensive cell phones, etc, yet complaining when Medicaid doesn't cover a crown. Not long ago, I had a patient giving me a sob story about how she couldn't afford to have a tooth extracted. I almost started to feel sorry for her (OK, I didn't) when I looked down and saw that she was wearing a pair of Diesel shoes. I'm not accusing you of trying to abuse the system, but that's how it looks. That's why you got some negative responses to your question.

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[TucsonDDS]

My job is seasonal, and I paid an obscene amount in taxes last year. I have no qualms about taking a little back in the winter, especially considering how much I will be taxed in the future as a dentist.

And whoever said it comes from your past employer, my past employer is family, and I have never heard anything like this. At least in my homestate. And you cannot work for a day, than collect unemployment, it is directly related to your past income, i.e., you actually have to make real money to get it. Again, this is in my homestate.

Then feel free to screw the system, after all it the the American way of life. Once again, I hope that you have many, many claims filed against you in the future.

Oh, I was wrong on the amount you needed to work. Not one day, but not much over a week in the previous year.

Qualifying for benefits: Your claim is based on your work in the base period April 1, 2004, through March 31, 2005. You must have earned at least $1200 during this base period, and your total base period earnings must be at least 1 and ½ times your high quarter earnings.

 

[TucsonDDS]

Here are 12 pages of links to threads on Dentaltown how unemployment effects the business owners, in these cases our future collegues.,

http://www.dentaltown.com/idealbb/search.asp

 

[TucsonDDS]

Here are 12 pages of links to threads on Dentaltown how unemployment effects the business owners, in these cases our future collegues.,

http://www.dentaltown.com/idealbb/search.asp

Well that apparently doesn't pull up the active search. Just type in unemployment andyou will see them.

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

My job is seasonal, and I paid an obscene amount in taxes last year. I have no qualms about taking a little back in the winter, especially considering how much I will be taxed in the future as a dentist.

I imagine that you're not going to have such a short-sighted view when it comes to planning for your business or your retirement. You're going into our profession with a great attitude. Congratulations on becoming a productive member of society. This kind of an attitude speaks volumes about the kind of person you are.

 

[Obelix]

Who cares, then? They can just print up extra to cover you...

You'll understand why your question wasn't met with enthusiasm once you start treating patients in dental school. We have all become oversensitized to the abuse of welfare programs. It is not uncommon for Medicaid patients to be driving extremely nice cars, talking on expensive cell phones, etc, yet complaining when Medicaid doesn't cover a crown. Not long ago, I had a patient giving me a sob story about how she couldn't afford to have a tooth extracted. I almost started to feel sorry for her (OK, I didn't) when I looked down and saw that she was wearing a pair of Diesel shoes. I'm not accusing you of trying to abuse the system, but that's how it looks. That's why you got some negative responses to your question.

Thanks for the explanation. I agree with you and it makes sense now. I, too, am strongly against the abuse of welfare programs. Having worked for a company that provides all sorts of benefits, I always have to figure out what I am entitled for so I can "max it out" (ie 401(k), health insurance, other financial benefits...etc.). Again, I am not trying to circumvent the law to milk out the government or a company or whoever. I didn't realize this topic was also so sensitive among certain people, and I was also shocked that TucsonDDS is so quick at sending you ill-wishes.

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

...I was also shocked that TucsonDDS is so quick at sending you ill-wishes.

I think his response was directed at tludy...

 

[TucsonDDS]

It was directed towards tludy. I wish no ill-will towards any hard working american. I needed to supplement my student loans just like everyone else so you know what I did, I got a job.

I think his response was directed at tludy...

 

[simpsonj24]

There are always people abusing the system. There are plenty of people in my class who take food stamps, welfare, medicaid, whatever and they have nice cars, nice houses, nice clothes etc.. That is just the way people look at things, "whatever is good for me" or "don't worry I will pay my fair share of taxes someday". In my narrow point of view, the best idea is to get a job or get loans, at least then you can feel good about yourself.

 

[makushin]

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[superchris147]

You don't even know me man. I work 90hrs a week for half the year. Then it snows and we have to stop. I promise you it is much more laborous and grueling than anything you ever encounter in your dental office or college, or wherever you are. 🙄

telling an OMFS resident that you work and 90 hours a week for half a year and expecting sympathy is about as realistic as putting marinated steaks all over your body and jumping into a lions den expecting to pet the lion. i can't wait for a response . . .

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

You don't even know me man. I work 90hrs a week for half the year. Then it snows and we have to stop. I promise you it is much more laborous and grueling than anything you ever encounter in your dental office or college, or wherever you are. 🙄

I couldn't help but laugh about this. Wrong guy to complain to about hours worked. Next month, I will start a day of call @ 6:30AM and work until roughly 5PM the following day. Then, I'll have all of 13 hours off before I do another 35-hour shift. This schedule will continue for the entire month. When you divide my salary by hours worked, I make less than minimum wage.

I'm not sure how working 90 hours/week for 6 months of the year makes it more acceptable for you to be drawing unemployment checks. I believe this thought process is called "bullsh*t". I do feel sorry for you that you have to live in an area where it snows six months out of the year--where is that? I guess there aren't any other jobs during the snowy times--how could anyone expect you to work when it's snowing. God forbid, your feet might get cold. Or even worse yet, wet! The thought of it makes my hair stand on end.

This guy is a perfect example of the "me, me, me" attitude that has become so prevalent in our society. Congrats, pal, you're "beating the man". You have a lot to be proud of. That strong short-term work ethic will pay off greatly during the six months of dental school before each six-month summer break. Of course, it will probably be too hot for you to be expected to work in the summertime, so back to the unemployment office you'll go.

 

[superchris147]

I couldn't help but laugh about this. Wrong guy to complain to about hours worked. Next month, I will start a day of call @ 6:30AM and work until roughly 5PM the following day. Then, I'll have all of 13 hours off before I do another 35-hour shift. This schedule will continue for the entire month. When you divide my salary by hours worked, I make less than minimum wage.

I'm not sure how working 90 hours/week for 6 months of the year makes it more acceptable for you to be drawing unemployment checks. I believe this thought process is called "bullsh*t". I do feel sorry for you that you have to live in an area where it snows six months out of the year--where is that? I guess there aren't any other jobs during the snowy times--how could anyone expect you to work when it's snowing. God forbid, your feet might get cold. Or even worse yet, wet! The thought of it makes my hair stand on end.

This guy is a perfect example of the "me, me, me" attitude that has become so prevalent in our society. Congrats, pal, you're "beating the man". You have a lot to be proud of. That strong short-term work ethic will pay off greatly during the six months of dental school before each six-month summer break. Of course, it will probably be too hot for you to be expected to work in the summertime, so back to the unemployment office you'll go.

damn, i was hoping for more witty humor as opposed to a factual beat down but good times nonetheless

 

[makushin]

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[OMFSCardsFan]

But you know what, I'm in Hawaii right now surfing and drinking maitais. And even working. In fact I went to Maui last week for work. It was beautiful, you should check out Maui sometime if you get the chance. We are a bit more laid back down here, which I think you may find refreshing. Aloha!

Now I defnitely think you fit into the category of someone who should draw unemployment...

 

[makushin]

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