so is everyone still alive? no convos for days man the other schools are making us look bad
so is everyone still alive? no convos for days man the other schools are making us look bad
and this will sound awful but as a single female who life in med school will prob prevent from going out a whole lot and meeting new people its great that Uchicago has an awesome law and business school....great potential (sorry i had to say it) for datability although i've heard stories about them.
Trip report from revisit day!
My host was very cool, living in hyde park doesn't seem so bad now. The pre-day event at the local bar/restaurant/bowling alley was a lot of fun and not quite as awkward as I was expecting.
The school and its attitude towards students was excellent. The staff, deans, etc, all seemed honest and forthcoming about finding the right fit and choosing a school that would make us happy. My faculty member that I met with walked me all around campus while we talked and showed me all his favorite places...quite a friendly place (as we all knew)!!
The current students were awesome and very, very friendly. However, a few students (current and prospective) came off to my poor ass as rich, daddy-is-paying-my-way types. I guess that is to be expected in any school, and the percent is probably lower than at USC or something...Still, if mom and dad are paying the $30k that would be your unsub stafford, don't complain publicly that you didn't get more aid. Your $50k grad debt is going to be a third of mine
Overall, an outstanding impression, which meshed well with my first impression on interview day. The curriculum changes next year sound good and not too massively different as to be cause for concern.
thanks for the great report. what are the curriculum changes for next year? what did students think about the demands of the curriculum?
i was told (not very reliably) that the curriculum changes started the year after the 2007 entering class - does anyone know the real deal on this?
i was told (not very reliably) that the curriculum changes started the year after the 2007 entering class - does anyone know the real deal on this?
also, can someone confirm the may 15 date for dropping all acceptances but one? i just want to make sure cause it seems like everyone is talking about it recently, and i don't want to get in trouble cause i had it wrong.
The major change for the 2008 entering class ie not us is that Pritzker is planning on starting earlier (August) in order to isolate anatomy at the beginning...this is not for us though we will have it combined with a ton of other work...should be fun...I think that the little changes ie getting more organization and cooperation b/t classes is for us though
wait. so does this mean that our second year would start in august also (i.e., we'd have a shorter summer after the first year)?
Since it would be a time for anatomy only, I think other class years besides MS1s would not be affected.
They are trying to reduce the number of classes at one time and increase time for rotations and research in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th years (think Penn).
too bad this ain't happening sooner, says i.
is this true about testing out of cell bio? that'd be sweetness
so i've heard lots of people talk about the great clinical training at pritzker, and the amsa surveys (with all their problems, like non-dated responses) certainly reflect this notion.
so what is it exactly that makes pritzker's clinical training so great? what does pritzker do with its ms3/4s that (many/most/all ?) other schools don't?
If I were to speculate, great clinical training stems from several roots. One might be that Pritzker faculty are all full-time. So, when you're in the hospital, your attendings are dedicated to education and probably find you to be something more than just a hassle. Another reason might be that, from what I've seen, volunteering in departments during the first two years is encouraged and so extra experience is probably gained. But, again, that's just my opinion.
In other news, rumor has it that Pritzker is among the top 3 schools in Step 2 scores...
so i've heard lots of people talk about the great clinical training at pritzker, and the amsa surveys (with all their problems, like non-dated responses) certainly reflect this notion.
so what is it exactly that makes pritzker's clinical training so great? what does pritzker do with its ms3/4s that (many/most/all ?) other schools don't?
I have heard this too...and wonder the same thing...I would guess that it is the amount of hands on experience they get and limited scut work...from what I hear the students are really a part of the team in the diagnosis and treatment processes of patients and are more involved than mere shadowing...this is all speculation of course
If I were to speculate, great clinical training stems from several roots. One might be that Pritzker faculty are all full-time. So, when you're in the hospital, your attendings are dedicated to education and probably find you to be something more than just a hassle. Another reason might be that, from what I've seen, volunteering in departments during the first two years is encouraged and so extra experience is probably gained. But, again, that's just my opinion.
In other news, rumor has it that Pritzker is among the top 3 schools in Step 2 scores...
For the 1st & 2nd year electives, the website says we take them in spring quarter. Is that just it? Or can we (or are we required to) take them in Fall & winter quarter as well? Some of the electives are pretty small = 2-6 students allowed per elective. Is there a lot of competition for certain electives? Do second years have priority, is it first come first serve?
I got the call from David Owen yesterday, and am totally accepting and dropping everything else. The school really stood out from other places I interviewed. After interview day I knew it was my top choice.
I live in Chicago, on the north side, and will be looking for a place closer to Hyde Park.
I had a question for current students (yes, I will soon ask the appropriate people at the school, but wanted to get some student input). For the 1st & 2nd year electives, the website says we take them in spring quarter. Is that just it? Or can we (or are we required to) take them in Fall & winter quarter as well? Some of the electives are pretty small = 2-6 students allowed per elective. Is there a lot of competition for certain electives? Do second years have priority, is it first come first serve?
Not sure if revisit day will be May 11 or May 4.....either way I can't wait to go!
~Leo the ex-teacher/photographer-on-hold/lifelong-artist
The reasons people have offered certainly play some part in it, although I don't know whether all faculty are full-time. I can name a few that aren't, but yes, the majority are.
I've not done any clinical work yet so I'm probably not the most well-equipped person to answer this question, but I'll offer up a few thoughts.
The suggestion that third year here is very hands-on most definitely plays some role in it. As I've said perhaps here or on another thread, my former classmates who are now in third year have repeatedly been surprised at how much they do on their rotations, whether its operating or making decisions about treatments or whatever. Of course, the faculty here is great and generally very devoted to educating students. At any school, there are a few bad bugs that don't want their time wasted dealing with us peasants, but I've found the faculty on the whole to be extremely amenable to teaching. I don't see any reason that this would be different during the clinical years since the vast majority of our preclinical lecturers are themselves clinicians.
Another thing that helps is that our patient population is very unique, even in relation to other hospitals in Chicago. Many, many patients that are seen here are very sick and have often let their diseases progress due to lack of ability to pay that the buck stops here, so to speak. This, unfortunately, makes for good physical findings and a great learning environment.
One thing that often gets overlooked when talking about clinical competence is the preclinical curriculum. We have many more essay-style (or non-MCQ-style, at least) exams than most schools, and it often forces you to think in a different, more critical way about the material you're being taught (and study this material in this manner as well), rather than memorizing facts for the sole purpose of killing the boards. (Incidentally, I feel this is a major reason we don't come anywhere close to killing the boards on average, but it's okay because we consistently do very well in the match. I digress.) As a result, I feel like we often come at patients, who generally tend not to be MCQs, from a different, more thoughtful angle. This is also enhanced because many students have taken at least some time off to do research, get another degree, etc., and so they automatically bring unique experiences and knowledge to the table.
A question that has been asked on a nother thread that i think would go well here is how much do Pritzker students participate in "non-intellectual" EC's...what do they do in their free-time besides study....or is there any...or do they?
hey everybody,
quick question for people who are going for sure: is there anything we need to do before may 15th besides withdrawing from all other schools? like pay a deposit or anything?
hey everybody,
quick question for people who are going for sure: is there anything we need to do before may 15th besides withdrawing from all other schools? like pay a deposit or anything?
I would email Joni, or someone else, and tell them that you're coming and have withdrawn all of your other acceptances.
pritzker current students, what's housing on cornell street like. is it in the safezone? also i have a random question, i was looking at the first year schedule for last year ?? and i'm having trouble comprehending this trimester thing and winter break, about how long is winter break in MS1/MS2? thanks.
Hey guys - Just thought I'd let you know that the Scrubin' video is back up on YouTube, in case you haven't seen it already. Funniest med school video you will ever see, and should only add to your excitement in coming here...especially since a few of your TAs for Anatomy next year are in it as well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y8G4s1yxi0
Feel free to spread it around to your friends Make sure to tell them how you're joining the coolest med school ever!
current students,
how's housing specifically condos on lake shore drive? my roommate's dad wants to look in this area. i was wondering how long the drive would be to get to school and if any students generally live in this area.