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anybody know about the program? (ie teaching, experiences, matching competetivness)
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university of florida
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I'm a rising 4th year student at UF, finishing my surgery rotation. I'm going into general surgery.
I enjoyed my surgery rotations on the whole. The website for the Department of Surgery has a description of the conferences, which vary per rotation. Currently they have 4 categorical residents, but they are in the process for adding a 5th in the next couple of years. The education at the intern level is driven by the senior residents. Conferences are pretty good - I was on the Surgical Oncology service, which is the chairman's - and faculty driven education took place at the Pre-Op conference, and on rounds. Each service is moving toward these pre-op conferences as a mode of resident education.
The program is growing, and Dr. Cance is the new chairman. He is putting more of an academic emphasis on the program - he wants more academic surgeons. He ia also trying to raise the caliber of residents who he trains from the start. In past years, the graduating residents were about half and half. He really is trying to raise the level of the program. He meets with the residents as a group every Tuesday to voice concerns about things and also for educational purposes.
The residents themselves are a large mix of people. They all have different personalities - several of them are very happy, very upbeat, and want to teach. Some of them arent as happy, but I think that is at any place.
The attendings I have interacted with are completely variable - some of them are the nicest people who you will ever meet, and others arent so much. There are a few attendings who have bad reputations among the residents. There are not many women in the program as categorical residents, and faculty wise I believe they have two - one in peds surgery and one in plastics.
I think the overall training is strong, and this is mirrored by the residents. UF will be a Level I trauma center starting October 1, and they have a great new trauma attending, Dr. Lottenberg. This will add a whole new level of training to the program, and I think it is a plus. Residents do lots of cases, because they are no Oncology, laparoscopy, Trauma/Critical Care, or Burn fellows. The Cardiothoracic experience is limited now to a rotation as a 3rd yr resident (VA) and as an intern (nights at Shands and the VA has a intern all the time.
I know that the interns are the only ones who arent the happiest, but not even uniformly so, but intern year sucks everywhere. Interns operate 1-3 times per month rotation from the ones I have surveyed, but this may increase next year, because the resident schedule will be changing some.
People from UF have no trouble placing in fellowships - this year, three chiefs are doing fellowships - Plastics, CT, Colorectal, and one is going into private practice. UF has a strong program overall. I am strongly considering staying if they will have me.
I enjoyed my surgery rotations on the whole. The website for the Department of Surgery has a description of the conferences, which vary per rotation. Currently they have 4 categorical residents, but they are in the process for adding a 5th in the next couple of years. The education at the intern level is driven by the senior residents. Conferences are pretty good - I was on the Surgical Oncology service, which is the chairman's - and faculty driven education took place at the Pre-Op conference, and on rounds. Each service is moving toward these pre-op conferences as a mode of resident education.
The program is growing, and Dr. Cance is the new chairman. He is putting more of an academic emphasis on the program - he wants more academic surgeons. He ia also trying to raise the caliber of residents who he trains from the start. In past years, the graduating residents were about half and half. He really is trying to raise the level of the program. He meets with the residents as a group every Tuesday to voice concerns about things and also for educational purposes.
The residents themselves are a large mix of people. They all have different personalities - several of them are very happy, very upbeat, and want to teach. Some of them arent as happy, but I think that is at any place.
The attendings I have interacted with are completely variable - some of them are the nicest people who you will ever meet, and others arent so much. There are a few attendings who have bad reputations among the residents. There are not many women in the program as categorical residents, and faculty wise I believe they have two - one in peds surgery and one in plastics.
I think the overall training is strong, and this is mirrored by the residents. UF will be a Level I trauma center starting October 1, and they have a great new trauma attending, Dr. Lottenberg. This will add a whole new level of training to the program, and I think it is a plus. Residents do lots of cases, because they are no Oncology, laparoscopy, Trauma/Critical Care, or Burn fellows. The Cardiothoracic experience is limited now to a rotation as a 3rd yr resident (VA) and as an intern (nights at Shands and the VA has a intern all the time.
I know that the interns are the only ones who arent the happiest, but not even uniformly so, but intern year sucks everywhere. Interns operate 1-3 times per month rotation from the ones I have surveyed, but this may increase next year, because the resident schedule will be changing some.
People from UF have no trouble placing in fellowships - this year, three chiefs are doing fellowships - Plastics, CT, Colorectal, and one is going into private practice. UF has a strong program overall. I am strongly considering staying if they will have me.
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I interviewed at UF and thought overall it was a nice program. Of the big three in FL I ranked it the highest (UF, Miami, Tampa). The new chairman seemed very nice and my general impression was that he was a pretty academic.
I believe I ranked UF 7th on my list. The major drawback is the city. Sorry but Gainesville just stinks as a professional adult. It's an absolute college town. That was great in college, but as a young professional it gets kinda old... quick.
In hindsight, I would have ranked Miami higher than UF. Miami is just an 800 pound gorilla when it comes to surgery. Tons of Fellows, but also tons of cases and amazing pathology. Miami ranks pretty much top 5 in the nation for any complex surgical case in terms of numbers per year.
Finally, I just want to clarify what the 4th year student above wrote about unhappy Interns. The program I'm at, all the Interns are super happy. We might not get to operate that much, but we have fun... and we know our time will come.
I believe I ranked UF 7th on my list. The major drawback is the city. Sorry but Gainesville just stinks as a professional adult. It's an absolute college town. That was great in college, but as a young professional it gets kinda old... quick.
In hindsight, I would have ranked Miami higher than UF. Miami is just an 800 pound gorilla when it comes to surgery. Tons of Fellows, but also tons of cases and amazing pathology. Miami ranks pretty much top 5 in the nation for any complex surgical case in terms of numbers per year.
Finally, I just want to clarify what the 4th year student above wrote about unhappy Interns. The program I'm at, all the Interns are super happy. We might not get to operate that much, but we have fun... and we know our time will come.
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I interviewed there as well... I consider their program to be strong and getting stronger, and the faculty and residents that I met were great.
Also, UF had the prettiest gals of any of the places that I interviewed (yup, I'm a male chauvinistic pig🙂).
Also, UF had the prettiest gals of any of the places that I interviewed (yup, I'm a male chauvinistic pig🙂).
