UOP OR UCLA???

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  1. ALI

    ALI Senior Member
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    Hi everyone
    my friend is deciding between UCLA and UOP
    she is CA resident and she just want to be general dentist. What do you guys think?

    thanks
     
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  3. Henna

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    If she wants to be a gen dentist, I think UOP is a good Idea.
     
  4. makebuleeve

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    Yes, goto UoP...go and waste more money and goto a less prestigious school.
     
  5. ayoon80

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    definately UOP for gen. dent., everybody I know from there absolutely loves it there
     
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    i was just there on monday, everyone seems really happy at uop!
     
  7. Henna

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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by makebuleeve:
    <strong>Yes, goto UoP...go and waste more money and goto a less prestigious school.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have a sneaking suspicion that U of A looks into social skills too .
     
  8. negar

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    Hey guys
    What's wrong with UCLA i assumed everyone would say UCLA :confused: it's cheaper for sure!!! but i also like the fact that u get out a year early from UOP... i'm confused too :confused:
     
  9. waiting

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    I'm with you Negar, UCLA for sure...I mean c'mon, it's no contest! Yes, Pacific is a good school w/great facilities, but UCLA is: cheaper (by about 120K if you're a CA resident) and much more reputable overall and w/a sweet campus...dunno, just my $.02 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> :D
     
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    UCLA isn't all that it's crackd up to be.
    I know I've been there for many years. The patient pool sucks so you essentially don't get any practice. It's unfortunate that prestige is all about a name not the end result. also the profs are mainly researchers who don't know the first thing about teaching.

    Sorry, but this is what I've seen.
     
  11. makebuleeve

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    WHO CARES.... IT'S CHEAPER!
     
  12. kmm

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    Stargirl-

    You were at UofP on Monday for an interview? I was there also... what a small world. Which of the three other girls were you?

    -KMM
     
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    wow cool, i am the one from ucla :)
    you're the one from washington then? =)
    what did u think of uop?!
     
  14. kmm

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    Stargirl-

    I liked UofP. What did you think? If I get accepted I will seriously think about going there. They seem to have a strong clinical emphasis, which I'm looking for. Also, the environment seemed very friendly. If you had to choose between Tufts, UMaryland, or UofP which would you pick?

    -KMM
     
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    for me i would definately go to uop out of those schools... only cause it's close to home and it's 3 years. I liked UOP and definately it's a great clinical school, my old dentist went there and he's good. I know you'll get a great clinical experience, however the tour guy kinda hinted at the fact that they have a lack of patients and u have to recruit your own patients. I want to specialize so it might not be the best school for me, but it'll give you the fundamental skills to be a general dentist!
    I didn't apply to maryland so i don't know that school too well.
    I liked tufts a lot, but didn't like boston much.
    Tufts is definately strong in every asspect! And the people are really nice...and it also seems really relaxed there.

    ucla game's on now...hehe sorry gotta go watch!
     
  16. ayoon80

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    I'm a total UCLA fan, but based on what I've heard from other people, it seems like you'd be better off at UOP. I mean, this is where you will be spending the next four years of your life, so I think its important to make an informed decision based on more than just the costs involved. I talked to dental students at UCLA and they voiced a similar opinions about the lack of patients. However I've heard that if you want to go into a specialty, UCLA would be ideal since they have a recognized name, pass/no pass grading, etc. UOP basically trains you to be a general dentist, I heard that their programs aren't regarded very highly by post-grad programs. This is just what I've heard, if anyone has heard any different, post!
     
  17. Rx4Fun

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    Well, I thought I'd chime in here. I'm a licensed CA dentist who graduated from UOP. I don't hang out here often, but I thought I'd give my two cents. The bottom line is between UOP and UCLA, I'd choose UOP. Here's why. UCLA is a great school for the weather, the Westwood area, and the name of the school. And they are great for dental research. Government schools tend to get the bigger research grants. UOP is not all that much into research. UOP is into training people to be great clinicians. That being said, a good number of my classmates went on to prestigious post-grad programs.

    Looking back at my dental school years, I'd say one of the great things about UOP was the spirit of comraderie of professors and the staff at the school. I'm talking about comraderie between the professors and staff WITH the students. These people really cared that you did well as a student as as a human being. The profs there will give you all the help you need, and they'll hang out and party with you after school too (well, some of the will). The dean, Arthur Dugoni, is one of the giants in the field of academic dentistry. He is a recognized leader and a past president of the ADA. The associate dean, Robert Christopherson, was a board member on the Calif Dental Board of Examiners. He played a significant and enthusiastic role in the success of UOP's students' high pass rate on the Calif boards. Leaders set the tone. If you are not sure about UOP, I'd suggest you call up and ask to speak to some of the faculty and students. I'm sure they'd be happy to talk to you.

    As for patient shortages, unfortunately that is a fact of life for many schools. I've heard that some of the changes on the Calif State Board Exam are the result of this shortage. That's just a guess.

    Finally, last year UOP got re-accredited as a teaching institution. I received a letter from the Dean which stated that in the course of these evaluations, most schools get recommendations as to changes that need to be made to bring the program up to par. Well, UOP significantly received NO recommendations. It did receive 13 COMMENDATIONS. That speaks volumes as to the quality of the school.

    I have never regretted spending the money on tuition at UOP. You'll find out that when you graduate, some of the best continuing ed courses will be equally pricy. Do the research, visit the schools and the neighborhoods, look at the lab facilities where you'll be spending many many hours, look at the clinical facilities, and factor this in with what it is you want to get out of dental school. And then make a choice. Whatever you chose, will turn out ok for you in the long term. Good luck to all.
     
  18. Stanford Fencer

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    While I believe in general perceptions/facts... there are always pleasant surprises. I was interviewing with a very impressive guy at UCLA, who is a 3rd year, about to start applying to OMFS residencies. He told me that in fact, he is almost all done with his requirements, and could conceivably graduate a year early if he wanted to. He will be spending most of his senior year doing research. While I understand that this guy must be very impressive with his patients, I do believe that if the effort is made, and that you are personable, you should have no problems getting patients -- even at UCLA. :)
     

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