US News 2021 Medical School Rankings Predictions

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I'll bite.

1. Harvard
2. Hopkins
3. Stanford
4. Penn
5. UCSF
6. Wash U
7. Columbia
8. UCLA
9. Cornell
10. Duke
 
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May be they should add Corona response as an additional criteria and redo the ranks?
 
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While speculation about this may yield interesting results, I'd like to remind people that USNWR rankings have faced very legitimate criticisms and this study (Gollehon NS, Stansfield RB, Gruppen LD, et al. Assessing Residents' Competency at Baseline: How Much Does the Medical School Matter?. J Grad Med Educ. 2017;9(5):616–621. doi:10.4300/JGME-D-17-00024.1) showed that "Our results suggest that residents' medical school of origin is weakly correlated with clinical competency as measured by a standardized OSCE."

that said, let's look at the past few years:
2019:
1. Harvard
2. Hopkins
3. Stanford
3. Penn (+3)
5. UCSF
6. Columbia
6. UCLA (+2)
8. WashU St. Louis
9. Cornell
9. Mayo (-3)
9. NYU (-6)

2018:
1. Harvard
2. Hopkins (+1)
3. NYU
3. Stanford (-1)
5. UC San Francisco (-1)
6. Mayo Clinic
6. Penn (-1)
8. UCLA
8. WashU St. Louis (-1)
10. Duke (-2)

2017:
1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. Hopkins
4. UCSF
5. UPenn
6. Columbia
7. Duke
7. WashU St. Louis
9. UMichigan
9. Yale

I predict:
Harvard, Stanford, and Hopkins will stay at the top of the list and the rest is variable depending on NIH funding and activity (weighted at FORTY PERCENT of USNWR methodology - last year they changed the methodology to "drop four indicators of research activity conducted at medical schools: total non-NIH federal research activity, average non-NIH federal research activity per faculty member, total nonfederal research activity and average nonfederal research activity per faculty member." which shook things up a lil)
 
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Another one of my favs: “ the only people that care about rankings are premeds and med school deans” lol
I got $$$ on Harvard being #1
 
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Maybe if I change my prediction of stanford to #1 I will get good karma and they will accept me off the waitlist
 
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Why y’all looking down on Mayo? Tsk tsk, definitely not showing enough interest.
 
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Stanford is at #4 because their faculty have better things to do than NIH-funded research. Also NYU and Mayo are doing something shady to game the rankings, someone please investigate. Accepting higher MCAT and GPA students are obvious hacks but they have to be doing something else to bamboozle the rankings recently.

Also I'm surprised in the methodology that acceptance rate has such a small weight and yield is not considered.
 
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Lol I love how 5 medical schools are the 6th best in the country
According to the methodology: "Indicators were standardized about their means, and standardized scores were weighted, totaled and rescaled so that the top school received 100; other schools received their percentage of the top score. Medical schools were then numerically ranked in descending order based on their scores."

They must have rounded to like the nearest 10%
 
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Mayo and NYU will stop at nothing to be a top 5. Giant billboards claiming NYU is the best medical school in NYC will be up by dawn lol Yale tho, talk about a fall from greatness. Cornell stays knocking on that top 10 door. This is the most fun I get without March madness smh
 
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Mayo and NYU will stop at nothing to be a top 5. Giant billboards claiming NYU is the best medical school in NYC will be up by dawn lol Yale tho, talk about a fall from greatness. Cornell stays knocking on that top 10 door. This is the most fun I get without March madness smh

Do you think Yale students will have trouble matching now at top programs considering the T15 ranking?
 
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Anyone with access to the US News Compass would be kind enough to share the Residency director scores and median GPA/MCATs? Just curious!
 
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Mayo and NYU will stop at nothing to be a top 5. Giant billboards claiming NYU is the best medical school in NYC will be up by dawn lol Yale tho, talk about a fall from greatness. Cornell stays knocking on that top 10 door. This is the most fun I get without March madness smh
NYU is basically Mike Bloomberg at this point.

(Please see the joke everyone, I’m not trying to be political.)
 
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Can anyone tell me why such a big disparity between PD rating and USNews Ranking for NYU? I am seriously considering NYU over some other t20's because of the ranking.
 

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Can anyone tell me why such a big disparity between PD rating and USNews Ranking for NYU? I am seriously considering NYU over some other t20's because of the ranking.

NYU rose in the rankings relatively recently, and reputation takes a while to catch up. They were #22 in the PD rankings 2 years ago.
 

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@TheDataKing I think your PD scores for Baylor are incorrect. Their research and primary care scores appear to be 3.9 and 4.0, respectively. Just thought I'd point that out!
 
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@TheDataKing I think your PD scores for Baylor are incorrect. Their research and primary care scores appear to be 3.9 and 4.0, respectively. Just thought I'd point that out!
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yeah - thanks, that was preliminary data. I've been updating it with this year's data and only was looking at the schools ranked as t20s before. Sorry for any confusion!
 
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Can anyone please post Step 1 scores for the Top 20 schools please?
with step 1 going pass/fail, this should be irrelevant. I thought they'd all be 240+ but was wrong (Harvard 248, JHU 248, UPenn 247, NYU 239, Stanford 238, Columbia 236, Mayo 240, UCLA 230, UCSF 239, WashU 242, Cornell 240, Duke 241, Washington 227 (not 277 lmao), Pitt 232, Michigan 242, Yale 243, UChicago 244, Northwestern 240, Vandy 247, Mt Sinai 235)
 
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with step 1 going pass/fail, this should be irrelevant. I thought they'd all be 240+ but was wrong (Harvard 248, JHU 248, UPenn 247, NYU 239, Stanford 238, Columbia 236, Mayo 240, UCLA 230, UCSF 239, WashU 242, Cornell 240, Duke 241, Washington 277, Pitt 232, Michigan 242, Yale 243, UChicago 244, Northwestern 240, Vandy 247, Mt Sinai 235)
Wait.. Washington at 277.. that can’t be right.
 

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