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Both these schools have been discussed at great length recently, but not in the same threads... USC has been pretty thoroughly covered in the USC vs. UCI discussion, and UCSD pretty well discussed in the Is UCSD worth it? thread... so here is where I stand so far:
my stance on UCSD: I do not believe it to be as bad as many say, the students i talked to on interview day and the ones i have talked to who I know there (M1's) have said it really isnt that bad, that it is getting better, etc... I fully believe that Dean Kelly is doing whatever he can to make it better, but i also agree no one will really relax till they change the curriculum...
UCSD Curriculum -'s: Lots of lecture, little to no patient interaction (except at the free student run clinics, which are great), No anatomy till second year - this may be a good thing, but I dont like the concept...
anyhow I have a pretty good handle on student life there, etc, and while I do not think it is horrible, i think it seems that way when compared with some other schools that are on the other end of the spectrum entirely... such as USC
USC curriculum +'s: and yes, you may not have to go to the UCSD lectures to do well (brought up in the other thread, but I do not necessarily want to ditch class in med school, i want the classes to be so engaging that i get out of bed wanting to go (which is the feeling i got at USC)
So, the other stuff...
yes USC costs a lot more, and if they cannot help me out at all, I may have to go with UCSD... if they can make it roughly the same cost, or even just a bit more, i am thinking USC, and these are the personal reasons why...
- I just spent 4 yrs in La Jolla, and while it is a nice town, I feel like i want a change
- I dont think the price difference will be to great in the end, I get a lot of need based aid, because i have a lot of need
- My best friend from high school, who i continue to remain very close with (we spent the summer in peru together), is applying and his only interview was at USC, and it is very likely he will get in (at least, I hope so)
- I stayed with someone the night before my interview who lived in Monterey Hills, and I also chekced out South Pasadena - they both would be totally nice places to live and there was little to know traffic to school in the morning or in the other direction after the interview, also, housing prices seemed comparable to La Jolla/UTC area, if not a tiny bit better
- I want to stay in So-cal (or at least Cal) for residency, and while UCSD is ranked higher and might help get a good residency, we all know about USC as the powerhouse when it comes to getting students residency spots (read the USC vs UCI thread for more on this)
- My focus is underserved care, and while SD is a fine place to do this, I need only say one thing: LAC/USC
- I personally know someone who turned down a full ride to UCSD for a spot at USC (dont know how much/if any money she got), and she said she has never regretted it, to this day (she is an M2)
UCSD does win on price and ranking, but I am fairly sure the difference in ranks will not affect my future career as an MD, and as far as price, hopefully it will be close to even... but who knows.
So... after all that, I am picking USC, unless there is some compelling evidence that suggests i should do otherwise, am I nuts?
-mike
(sorry for the rediculous long-ness of this)
my stance on UCSD: I do not believe it to be as bad as many say, the students i talked to on interview day and the ones i have talked to who I know there (M1's) have said it really isnt that bad, that it is getting better, etc... I fully believe that Dean Kelly is doing whatever he can to make it better, but i also agree no one will really relax till they change the curriculum...
UCSD Curriculum -'s: Lots of lecture, little to no patient interaction (except at the free student run clinics, which are great), No anatomy till second year - this may be a good thing, but I dont like the concept...
anyhow I have a pretty good handle on student life there, etc, and while I do not think it is horrible, i think it seems that way when compared with some other schools that are on the other end of the spectrum entirely... such as USC
USC curriculum +'s: and yes, you may not have to go to the UCSD lectures to do well (brought up in the other thread, but I do not necessarily want to ditch class in med school, i want the classes to be so engaging that i get out of bed wanting to go (which is the feeling i got at USC)
So, the other stuff...
yes USC costs a lot more, and if they cannot help me out at all, I may have to go with UCSD... if they can make it roughly the same cost, or even just a bit more, i am thinking USC, and these are the personal reasons why...
- I just spent 4 yrs in La Jolla, and while it is a nice town, I feel like i want a change
- I dont think the price difference will be to great in the end, I get a lot of need based aid, because i have a lot of need
- My best friend from high school, who i continue to remain very close with (we spent the summer in peru together), is applying and his only interview was at USC, and it is very likely he will get in (at least, I hope so)
- I stayed with someone the night before my interview who lived in Monterey Hills, and I also chekced out South Pasadena - they both would be totally nice places to live and there was little to know traffic to school in the morning or in the other direction after the interview, also, housing prices seemed comparable to La Jolla/UTC area, if not a tiny bit better
- I want to stay in So-cal (or at least Cal) for residency, and while UCSD is ranked higher and might help get a good residency, we all know about USC as the powerhouse when it comes to getting students residency spots (read the USC vs UCI thread for more on this)
- My focus is underserved care, and while SD is a fine place to do this, I need only say one thing: LAC/USC
- I personally know someone who turned down a full ride to UCSD for a spot at USC (dont know how much/if any money she got), and she said she has never regretted it, to this day (she is an M2)
UCSD does win on price and ranking, but I am fairly sure the difference in ranks will not affect my future career as an MD, and as far as price, hopefully it will be close to even... but who knows.
So... after all that, I am picking USC, unless there is some compelling evidence that suggests i should do otherwise, am I nuts?
-mike
(sorry for the rediculous long-ness of this)