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wow. the top 10 really shuffled around...columbia dropped from 6 to 11th, Cornell dropped from 10th to 15th, UW, Stanford, and Baylor made it into the top 10, WashU, Upenn, and UCSF did a little shuffle dance...
 
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Columbia and Cornell dropped like the stock market. Mayo (hahaha, that's what you get for rejecting me :() and Emory down, too.
 

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What the hell happened to Mayo??? I'm surprised that Cornell dropped so much. They're associated with Sloan Kettering, HSS, Rockefeller, and now Methodist in Houston but they still can't get they're NIH funding up?
 

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i also wonder why the new york schools dropped so much? or is this just the normal ebb and flow of the ranking tides? as for cornell...just because it associates with sloan kettering, and rockefeller doesn't mean IT's NIH funding increases...
 

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1994 rankings

RESEARCH-ORIENTED
MEDICAL SCHOOLS WITH THE HIGHEST SCORES IN THE U.S. NEWS SURVEY
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1. HARVARD UNIVERSITY (Mass.)
2. JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY (Md.)
3. YALE UNIVERSITY (Conn.)
4. UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT SAN FRANCISCO
5. WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY (Mo.)
6. DUKE UNIVERSITY (N.C.)
7. UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA
8. COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY (N.Y.)
9. STANFORD UNIVERSITY (Calif.)
9. UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
11. UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN AT ANN ARBOR
12. UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT LOS ANGELES
13. UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT SAN DIEGO
14. VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY (Tenn.)
15. BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE (Texas)
16. UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO
17. CORNELL UNIVERSITY (N.Y.)
18. UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH
19. CASE WESTERN RESERVE UNIVERSITY (Ohio)
20. NEW YORK UNIVERSITY

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~landay/school-rankings94.txt
 

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my student host at columbia told me that they hired the ex-UCSF dean (or something like that?) to help restructure/revamp some of hte medical school. he said that it is expected that columbia will be in the top 5 within 10 years (though its a biased opinion of course).
 

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my student host at columbia told me that they hired the ex-UCSF dean (or something like that?) to help restructure/revamp some of hte medical school. he said that it is expected that columbia will be in the top 5 within 10 years (though its a biased opinion of course).
well, they certainly haven't restructured the curriculum..their's is among the most finicky and old-fashioned out there....
 

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well, they certainly haven't restructured the curriculum..their's is among the most finicky and old-fashioned out there....

yea its traditional, im not sure what you mean by finicky? they churn out superstars. i think the guy he was talking about is coming next year. if there are any columbia students out there please chime in.

crimson, are you going to hopkins next yr?
 

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i also wonder why the new york schools dropped so much? or is this just the normal ebb and flow of the ranking tides? as for cornell...just because it associates with sloan kettering, and rockefeller doesn't mean IT's NIH funding increases...

US News doesn't rank schools just based on the school's NIH funding, but of the associated hospitlas as well. Actually, if you look at the NIH funding for each medical school itself for fiscal year 2005, Harvard ranks 26th.

http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medttl05.htm
 

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oh woah, i definately didn't mean to imply that columbia's curriculum won't prepare med students well--far from it! however, from talking to the students there, it seems that a lot of the courses are very repetitive, and it hasn't undergone major streamlining to cut out a lot of redundant info during the 1st two years. (it was my understanding that this is why currently many med school's basic science years are actually less than two full years...) but yea, redundant or no, all the info is there, and who knows? maybe more repetition will make you remember more stuff on step I. :D as for finicky, no reason for that other than poor word choice. sorry about that.

and, as for jhu...well. i'm still crossing my fingers for 1 more school...:D
 

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US News doesn't rank schools just based on the school's NIH funding, but of the associated hospitlas as well. Actually, if you look at the NIH funding for each medical school itself for fiscal year 2005, Harvard ranks 26th.

http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medttl05.htm
really good point. i forgot about that. :D i think in terms of science, rockefeller and sloan kettering REALLY boost cornell's research quality and quantity.
 
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