USUHS and residency matching

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

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I know that USUHS graduates are preferentially selected for military residency positions, but that to me does not eliminate the possible of being granted a full deferment.

Does anybody know if it is POSSIBLE to be granted a full deferment as a USUHS graduate? Anecdotal information is definitely welcome. Thanks!

 

[met19]

I know that USUHS graduates are preferentially selected for military residency positions, but that to me does not eliminate the possible of being granted a full deferment.

Does anybody know if it is POSSIBLE to be granted a full deferment as a USUHS graduate? Anecdotal information is definitely welcome. Thanks!

im pretty sure that USUHS grads do not have the option of deferal.

 

[Trajan]

It's possible. I think someone from USUHS got a full deferral for derm and another for neurosurgery this year in the Navy. It's a safe bet that you must be a superstar who is likely to match at a competitive undermanned field at a world class civilian institution, as deferrals are not the norm for USUHS.

 

[st0rmin]

It's possible. I think someone from USUHS got a full deferral for derm and another for neurosurgery this year in the Navy. It's a safe bet that you must be a superstar who is likely to match at a competitive undermanned field at a world class civilian institution, as deferrals are not the norm for USUHS.

One of my USPHS classmates matched civilian Orthopedics from USUHS. Yes, he was a superstar.

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

Thanks for the responses!

 

[Croooz]

On a search of EM residency there were more than a few who listed USUHS grads as residents. So deferrals are possible but the question should be how likely and only the brass knows that from year to year.

 

[backrow]

The only full defferal from USUHS (not including Public Health) was a Navy student who got a full deferral for Dermatology. This is definately not the norm. I won't give the full details of the case, but the person has a close family member who happens to be a university affiliated physician in a certain field of medicine. The person who was granted the deferment is definately one of the top students in the class as well.

USUHS grads can get deferments for Residency after internship and a GMO.

 

[spursss]

Wow, that is pretty interesting. Being able to go to USUHS and then go to a civilian residency, that would be pretty cool. How super star are we talking here. Like 4.0 gpa, 240 Step I, and 3 or more publications??

Also, how long is a typical GMO??

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

Wow, that is pretty interesting. Being able to go to USUHS and then go to a civilian residency, that would be pretty cool. How super star are we talking here. Like 4.0 gpa, 240 Step I, and 3 or more publications??

Also, how long is a typical GMO??

This actually depends on a couple of factors.

1. Type of GMO Tour. Your typical Flight Surgeon or Undersea Medical Officer tour will be three years. However, if you choose to serve as a GMO on a surface ship or with a Marine unit, your tour can be anywhere from one to three years.

2. Desired Residency Program. The location and competitiveness of can also play a role in the length of your GMO tour. I've known individuals that knew prior to the start of their GMO tour that they would be selected by their desired residency program the following year. This assumes that would do your GMO tour in the same location as your desired residency program, because the Navy will not want to pay for two PCS moves after only one year. The exception to this rule would be a hardship or overseas GMO tour.

Hope this helps. If anyone has anything to add to or correct (since I have not completed a GMO tour myself), please feel free.

 

[edmadison]

I know that USUHS graduates are preferentially selected for military residency positions

This is actually not true. We have discussed this several times over the years. I posted the stats a few years back.

Ed

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

This is actually not true. We have discussed this several times over the years. I posted the stats a few years back.

Ed

Care to elaborate? USUHS claims that their graduates are preferentially selected for the military residencies in their school bulletin. I have no reason to believe otherwise - these are the individuals who have essentially committed to a career in military medicine, so it makes sense to preferentially train them in a military residency.

 

[st0rmin]

Care to elaborate? USUHS claims that their graduates are preferentially selected for the military residencies in their school bulletin. I have no reason to believe otherwise - these are the individuals who have essentially committed to a career in military medicine, so it makes sense to preferentially train them in a military residency.

All USUHS (well 99.9%) students have to do a military internship. That means if they don't match in their chosen field, they can be forced into a transitional year somewhere, or like several of my AF colleagues, into General Surgery internships when chosen for Anesthesiology residencies. Overall, there are more HPSP people applying for slots then USUHS students, so the odds fall that more HPSP people will match. Residencies want the best candidates they can get, USUHS isn't a sure match to your chosen residency.

 

[NavyFP]

Yes, as of last year, USU students may request a full deferment. One Navy person was granted a full deferment for derm and was a stellar performer.

Yes, USU students are given slight preference for intern spots as a whole. This does not mean a they will get the competitive spots, it means they will be more likely to plug holes than HPSP students. I won't speak for Army/AF but Navy works like this: students in the bottom 10% of a graduating class (as compared to other military graduates not their specific school) will likely be placed in a military spot. The rest of the bottom 25% are most likely to get 1 year delays, especially if they have misguided expectations of getting a competitive residency. (ortho, ENT, neurosurg) If a USU student falls into that group they will be more likely to be given a primary care internship since USU are NOT eligible for 1 year delays.

 

[Bubblehead-to-MD]

All USUHS (well 99.9%) students have to do a military internship. That means if they don't match in their chosen field, they can be forced into a transitional year somewhere, or like several of my AF colleagues, into General Surgery internships when chosen for Anesthesiology residencies. Overall, there are more HPSP people applying for slots then USUHS students, so the odds fall that more HPSP people will match. Residencies want the best candidates they can get, USUHS isn't a sure match to your chosen residency.

1. I understand that HPSP graduates make up a larger percentage of the medical corps than do USUHS graduates, and therefore ultimately have a greater number of individuals in military residencies - this has no bearing on whether or not USUHS graduates are preferentially selected. Which has a higher percentage of its graduates in military residency programs - HPSP or USUHS? I'm willing to bet the answer is USUHS.

2. I never claimed that USUHS graduates are more likely to match in their desired specialty - just that they are more likely to match into a military residency. I know that you still have to be a competitive applicant to match into a competitive residency program - but USUHS graduates (like those with prior military service) may have an extra point or two in their favor.

This thread was created to simply find out if full deferments are possible at USUHS. From what I have gathered, although it is highly unlikely, it is POSSIBLE. That's all I wanted to know!

 

[georgia_md]

Yes, he was a superstar.

yeah, I hope I grow up to be a super star too, and be able to get deferment also.