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It was a Fully Developed Claim most likely. I know of folks who have one all ready to go before they retire, that way they immediately start receiving their benefits.
Interesting. Actually, now that I think about it, I know he started the claim while still on AD through some kind of quick start program they offered. With any luck, I'll do the same, haha.
Also, how are we meant to report SR-103, "Enter the amount of veterans' education benefits you expect to receive per month from July 1, 2017 to June 30, 2018." Does this include possible Yellow-Ribbon funds? Does it include MHA funds? If so, how can I answer that before knowing exactly which school I'm attending?
I had this same question regarding SR-103, since the amount will vary wildly depending on the school, Yellow Ribbon support, location, etc. A representative on the phone told me to enter an estimate in the blank, then use the Explanations/Special Circumstances section to elaborate.
How long were you in? Do you have any deployments? I'm trying to figure out if there is any way to get you a disability rating.
None of my months were charged. I was approved for the 4 years and I still have the remainder of my post 9/11.
You should be able to. I only had 6 months of post 9/11 left and was still approved for all 4 years.I'm not sure if you're responding to me. What I mean is I used about 11 months for a post bac. Now I'm about to start medical school, so I'm under the impression I won't be able to use benefits for all four years.
@GnothiSeauton I might have misunderstood what you were asking, but to my best knowledge, (regarding your 3rd year in your case), you'd receive tuition for the whole semester for which you even have 1 day of entitlement remaining during, but am unsure of the MHA. Regarding your 4th year, you mentioned something with Yellow Ribbon. If GI Bill is up and done, you no longer qualify for yellow-ribbon as it is utilized specifically with the Post-9/11 GI Bill, so you would not have anything for 4th year unless you apply for Voc Rehab (and get accepted to it) or apply to some sort of program/receive a scholarship. Hope this helps in some way, but I may have misread what you were actually asking.
GI Bill and Voc Rehab are different chapters. You would not be approved for 4 years of school, only to be stopped midway because you've run out of entitlement. Chances are if approved, you will keep all of your remaining post 9/11 entitlement and you can use it for residency.
Ahh gotcha.I'm not intending to apply for vocational rehab, I'm just continuing to use the Post 9/11 GI Bill after using a portion of it for a postbac.
GI Bill and Voc Rehab are different chapters. You would not be approved for 4 years of school, only to be stopped midway because you've run out of entitlement. Chances are if approved, you will keep all of your remaining post 9/11 entitlement and you can use it for residency.
Ok, maybe that's why they approved me. I had 6 months left of post 9/11, but was approved for all 4 years. I'm at 80%. I also show as still having 6 months remaining.That's incorrect, they've ruled there was a misinterpretation of the law and we're back to the 48 month "benefits sandwich" which equates to 48 months total educational benefits regardless of what program you are using. If you use 20 months of Ch 31 and quit the program and come back and try to use 9/11, they will deduct the 20 months you used in Ch 31 from your remaining benefits. If you use 24 months of 9/11 and then are approved for Ch 31, they will only approve a track that allows you to finish within the remaining 24 months of entitlement. The only way now to get more than 48 months is via voc rehab with the determination of a SEH.
I'm confused after reading this thread.
I was approved for Voc Rehab after using 3 months of post 9/11 during my first semester of med school. So, I have 33 months of benefit remaining according to the e-benefit.
So my question is, will I still be able to use my 33 months of benefit during my residency? Or is that gone now?
Thank you for clarifying my situation.
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Is this something that has changed recently? I remember my counselor telling me that my 9/11 benefits won't be affected (or used up) by Ch31. However, if that is the case, what a bummer.I'm pretty sure that residency is considered entry level employment, so the voc rehab stipend won't apply. I don't know if 9/11 would cover it but you will have expended your 9/11 benefits eligibility by then (your Ch 31 benefits would have used up all your 9/11)
Is this something that has changed recently? I remember my counselor telling me that my 9/11 benefits won't be affected (or used up) by Ch31. However, if that is the case, what a bummer.
Is this something that has changed recently? I remember my counselor telling me that my 9/11 benefits won't be affected (or used up) by Ch31. However, if that is the case, what a bummer.
My counselor told me the same. All I'm going off of is what I what I read in this thread. Considering I live in a high cost area I'm assuming the worst for residency because if I actually get the stipend for my designated amount during residency I'll be rolling in tax free money. Better to assume less and plan for that. Suggest you do the same, but I will definitely let you know my experiences.
There was a misinterpretation of the law that was spreading around suggesting that using Voc Rehab won't use up GI Bill, further suggesting that what ever GI Bill you had at the start of Voc Rehab would be there when you stop Voc Rehab. That isi unfortunately not the case. Rather, it is 1 for 1 in both direction. If you have 36 months of GI Bill, and use it, it's gone, but you may get up to an additional 12 months through Voc Rehab if you qualify (extendable depending on SEH and situation/counselor). If you have 48 months of Voc rehab and use it up, both are gone just the same, but again with Voc Rehab being extendable with SEH and it situation-depended.
So so answer the question, if you have 33 months left of GI Bill and switched to voc rehab (thus having 45 months left overall, but still only 33 of GI Bill) - if you use up all 45 months, you have nothing left when you finish. If you use only say 30 months while in Voc Rehab, you'd have 15 months of Voc Rehab left, but only 3 months of potential GI Bill use. Does that make sense? I don't know how far along you are with school, which is why I gave the example as if you only utilized 30 months.
Let me know if that helps at all, and I'll try to be more clear if needed. Gotta get back to reading and studying now though.
48-Month Rule with Chapter 31 A policy advisory was issued in December, 2015, regarding the use of educational assistance and vocational rehabilitation (chapter 31). It was determined that benefits collected under chapter 31 would not limit the use of education benefits (chapters 30, 33, 35, 1606, 1607), but that use of education benefits could limit the number of months of assistance to which a veteran with a service-connected disability may be entitled under chapter 31.
An advisory released on September 21, 2016 overturns this decision. Processors have been informed that, effective immediately, they must count chapter 31 entitlement usage when determining entitlement for other VA education benefit programs. Individuals eligible for multiple benefits may receive no more than 48 months of combined benefits,
There was a misinterpretation of the law that was spreading around suggesting that using Voc Rehab won't use up GI Bill, further suggesting that what ever GI Bill you had at the start of Voc Rehab would be there when you stop Voc Rehab. That isi unfortunately not the case. Rather, it is 1 for 1 in both direction. If you have 36 months of GI Bill, and use it, it's gone, but you may get up to an additional 12 months through Voc Rehab if you qualify (extendable depending on SEH and situation/counselor). If you have 48 months of Voc rehab and use it up, both are gone just the same, but again with Voc Rehab being extendable with SEH and it situation-depended.
So so answer the question, if you have 33 months left of GI Bill and switched to voc rehab (thus having 45 months left overall, but still only 33 of GI Bill) - if you use up all 45 months, you have nothing left when you finish. If you use only say 30 months while in Voc Rehab, you'd have 15 months of Voc Rehab left, but only 3 months of potential GI Bill use. Does that make sense? I don't know how far along you are with school, which is why I gave the example as if you only utilized 30 months.
Let me know if that helps at all, and I'll try to be more clear if needed. Gotta get back to reading and studying now though.
you'll get paid 50ish,000 per year as a resident. Take whatever they offer if it covers med school and run with itSo I need some clarity here: my VRC is requesting three possible career fields. Obviously, all of them include going to medical school and becoming a physician, so I am specifying three specialties that fit the bill. But my question is this: if I say I want to be a Radiologist and I am only given 48 months, then how does residency fall into all of this? Wouldn't VR&E cover only until the end of med school? So then how can they write a plan for me to be a Radiologist if I wouldn't be one until after residency? Is it that I shouldn't state that I want to be a Radiologist; rather, state that I want to become a physician?
So I need some clarity here: my VRC is requesting three possible career fields. Obviously, all of them include going to medical school and becoming a physician, so I am specifying three specialties that fit the bill. But my question is this: if I say I want to be a Radiologist and I am only given 48 months, then how does residency fall into all of this? Wouldn't VR&E cover only until the end of med school? So then how can they write a plan for me to be a Radiologist if I wouldn't be one until after residency? Is it that I shouldn't state that I want to be a Radiologist; rather, state that I want to become a physician?
This is helpful though. Maybe I need to specify that my goal is getting into radiology residency. That way the goal timeline is consistent and it is specific to a compatible career.Pretty much this. My voc rehab covered me through medical school with my employment goal being placed successfully in a residency.
On my plan, the degree is listed along with becoming a physician.
Residency is employment, and thus once match happens/graduation, the goal is met. You should not have to list "radiologist" or "family physician" or anything of the like, nor would you be obligated to any of those if you listed them for whatever reason. And because it is employment, you won't receive any benefits during residency. Be happy they approved med school.
On my plan, the degree is listed along with becoming a physician.
Residency is employment, and thus once match happens/graduation, the goal is met. You should not have to list "radiologist" or "family physician" or anything of the like, nor would you be obligated to any of those if you listed them for whatever reason. And because it is employment, you won't receive any benefits during residency. Be happy they approved med school.
I will be very, very pleased if they approve med school..that's the goal. However, if I list "physician" as my goal, then my VRC simply looks at what BLS lists as the physical demands and he determines that it conflicts with my disability (prolonged standing). Whereas, obviously, there isn't a whole lot of that for a Radiologist and some other specialties.
But thanks for the info on residency being employment. I'm going to gather some info on the residency match rates for my local program and run with it that way.
Can you qualify for voc rehab if you are employed? I'm service connected and have the initial consult in a couple weeks.
I would like to go back for a dental specialty certificate, and the private schools charge heavy tuition, far beyond what the GI Bill would cover. I'm currently working as a general dentist since leaving active duty last year, so I'm not sure if this is possible.
Just got approved this morning. 4 years of dental school tuition, supplies, fees, licensure exams, and new computer. I'm getting the national flat-rate stipend, with 3 dependents, because I exhausted my gi bill benefits last month. Yusssss!!!
nopeyou have to exhaust your Post 9/11 bill in order to apply for Voc Rehab, Right? This is great news!
How does the transitional stipend work? Is this listed in the original contract? Or can I request this once I'm close to graduating?I'm getting two months of transitional stipend after graduating from medical school. It's nice as my school graduates pretty early so I'm getting pretty broke before residency starts.
How does the transitional stipend work? Is this listed in the original contract? Or can I request this once I'm close to graduating?