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Would serving at a church (sunday school teacher, etc.) count as community volunteer?
Depends what you're doing. If your church is doing humanitarian work, i say go for it. If you volunteered your time teaching bible study or other religious related activities I probably wouldn't count it.
I'm Mormon and served a 2 year church mission, but didn't count any of that as community service.
If you count it, I'm sure it's no big deal, I just hope you have more hours coming from other areas that serve community members, not just those of a specific faith. Loma Linda would like it however.
I don't see why not...you're volunteering your time to serve others. I'd say that would be a very good example of community service.
I'm Mormon and served a 2 year church mission, but didn't count any of that as community service.
I don't know about you but I did like 6 hours a week at least while on my mission--why would you hide something like that?
So where did you all serve then?
the answer is that it depends who's reading your app. i would not consider bible study/ sunday school as community service, (actually, i would be offended that you listed it as community service) but someone else might.
(actually, i would be offended that you listed it as community service)
I am religious and I can see why he'd be offended, I don't think he meant that religion itself offended him. Think about it, the Jehova's Witnesses (no offense intended) are required to knock doors for a certain number of hours just to become a member of the church. The LDS missionaries serve two full years 24 hours a day almost exclusively (with a few exceptions) proselytizing (also no offense intended). Thats 17,520 hours of "service". Those activities are a demonstration of your religion. Although often times the religion itself uses the terms "service or serving" it is really a way in which people demonstrate their religious commitment to God and probably shouldn't be used for the purpose of padding the community service numbers on an application. In my opinion a mission or teaching a bible study is a form or demonstration of worship. I don't mean to offend anybody or their religion, its just an honest opinion.
There's a difference between requirements of a certain faith (you listed two examples) and a person freely donating time/resources/etc for the benefit of others. In my opinion, the difference between your examples and mine would be similar to someone who was staff at a food kitchen vs a volunteer off the street. Both are doing work for the benefit of others, but only one of them is truly volunteering.
Please explain why.
i dont think it is a service to people, but a service to your own faith.
Wouldn't this be the same as doing service only for application to Dental School?
Even if you are assuming that LDS missionaries only work with those of their own faith, are they still not serving? Service is about giving time, talents, and energy. Regardless of the circumstances it was delivered, it is ultimately up to the individual to decide if it is counted. If you feel like you served then add it and then have an explaination as to why you did. This applies to all the examples of service you listed.
Galatians 5:12-14
no i don't feel like it is the same and regardless, we are discussing actions and not motives becasue it is impossible to debate a persons ulitmate motives and it will turn into a philosophical arguement. in my opinion, a mormon mission/teaching bible classes is not a service to the community, it is a service to your own church/ service to yourself. i am aware that they may feel like they they are doing community service, but i don't.
the discussion here was whether or not to include this under community service, and my point was that it depending on who is reading the app, it can take a negaitve turn. including it in your personal statement is one thing, i don't think it belongs in the community service section.
Wouldn't this be the same as doing service only for application to Dental School?
Even if you are assuming that LDS missionaries only work with those of their own faith, are they still not serving? Service is about giving time, talents, and energy. Regardless of the circumstances it was delivered, it is ultimately up to the individual to decide if it is counted. If you feel like you served then add it and then have an explaination as to why you did. This applies to all the examples of service you listed.
Galatians 5:12-14
no i don't feel like it is the same and regardless, we are discussing actions and not motives becasue it is impossible to debate a persons ulitmate motives and it will turn into a philosophical arguement. in my opinion, a mormon mission/teaching bible classes is not a service to the community, it is a service to your own church/ service to yourself. i am aware that they may feel like they they are doing community service, but i don't.
the discussion here was whether or not to include this under community service, and my point was that it depending on who is reading the app, it can take a negaitve turn. including it in your personal statement is one thing, i don't think it belongs in the community service section.
I don't know much about LDS...but is it mandatory for its members to go on missions or is it "looked down upon" if not doing one?
This isn't really the place to demean others volunteer experiences. If you want to know more about my motivation for serving a mission (it was not a requirement), and what volunteer work/community service I did over a 2 year period (outside of proselytizing), send me a PM.
It's funny reading a thread about service to our fellow men and people are arguing about what counts and bla bla bla. Kind of interesting...
I agree my sister is an Evangelical and goes to malls and public places to "Save" people. I think its disgusting what these mega churches are using their man power towards what ever happened to helping the community? I realize people in what ever religion feel that by spreading their gospel it is helping people and maybe it does but it seems churches today (Catholics aside) have gone far from reaching out to those in need to now spreading the fear of the wrath of god to people. I only go to church on holidays now but last time I went the church during the service they advertised for the new gift shop in the lobby to go get your blessed goods lol.
I agree with you. You should see what Evangelicals are doing in the developing world and the disgusting techniques they use to convert people. In some places, it is causing violent unrest. Some of the conversions are even forced. I think the worst offenders of this are the Southern Baptists and Catholic Church.I agree my sister is an Evangelical and goes to malls and public places to "Save" people. I think its disgusting what these mega churches are using their man power towards what ever happened to helping the community? I realize people in what ever religion feel that by spreading their gospel it is helping people and maybe it does but it seems churches today (Catholics aside) have gone far from reaching out to those in need to now spreading the fear of the wrath of god to people. I only go to church on holidays now but last time I went the church during the service they advertised for the new gift shop in the lobby to go get your blessed goods lol.
I just noticed this thread was started four years ago. I really wonder what the OP decided to do and how that worked out for the individual.