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If you had a choice to choose any of the IL schools which one it would be???
That wasn't necessary. I don't mind that you don't like the Springfield or stating that you don't like the school, but you don't need to be disrespectful.I grew-up in Springfield, thus I don't know why the hell anyone would want to go to Southern
lotsa people like feinberg's location next to downtown, but what you gotta consider is that they have *no* subsidized student housing. you'll get a better deal in housing from schools in manhattan.
wrong. There are lots of subsidized housing options for med students in chicago.
Pritzker is by far better. MUCH more respect for their clinical years.
More reputable for one, also if you want a dual degree they are probably one of the best in helping you get one (for an MBA, you can automatically go to their grad school of business which is more reputable than wharton, where as if you go to penn its still hard to dual MBA and get into wharton)
kellogg school of business, the mba program for northwestern, is located next door to the feinburg school of medicine. the law school is on the same block as well....
kellogg school of business, the mba program for northwestern, is located next door to the feinburg school of medicine. the law school is on the same block as well....
Feinberg
Location, location, location
i can't disagree that they're the top dawg in chicago when it comes to location. for me, it's just that you have to pay more to get that location. so when it came time to apply, i substituted manhattan schools with cheaper subsidized housing for feinberg.
i was talking about nwu feinberg in particular. the person i know who goes there spoke to me as if there were no subsidized housing. i just looked myself, and it is not *technically* true, but the subsidized housing (abbott hall) is offered with priority to families:
http://www.northwestern.edu/gradhousing/accommodations_chicago.html
so maybe it's just so hard to get that most single students have to find unsubsidized apartments. it's also not cheaper than housing at weill cornell or nyu, to address my bigger point.
Not a tough call. Pritzker > Northwestern in facilities, research, and reputation.
If I go to Pritzker I will just live in the North side, or the south loop .[/QUOTE
Hmm, I have seen so many polls like this. Is there a reason why the majority of people will pick Feinberg over Pritzker?
Not a tough call. Pritzker > Northwestern in facilities, research, and reputation.
If I go to Pritzker I will just live in the North side, or the south loop .[/QUOTE
Hmm, I have seen so many polls like this. Is there a reason why the majority of people will pick Feinberg over Pritzker?
As you can see from the poll, it's pretty close. People probably pick Feinberg because they prefer the location and curriculum.
Not a tough call. Pritzker > Northwestern in facilities, research, and reputation.
If I go to Pritzker I will just live in the North side, or the south loop .
Also, if something like Emergency Medicine is your thing... chances are U of C would be better for you because their emergency room is on the edge of a pretty nasty neighborhood and they undoubtedly see a lot more trauma.
RFU and Rush have Cook County affiliated with them, which sees way more trauma than UofC. UofC does have a great program, but they are sent to another hospital (Mt. Sinai) for trauma exposure.
u of chicago only takes peds trauma and sometimes adults with extremity woundss. trauma is overrated. it's not the most medically interesting stuff. unless you're the trauma surgeon, it's a pretty scripted routine for the other docs.
edit: but they do get boatloads of poor pts from the area.
I encourage people to make their own distinctions about these two institutions. I mean, both are world-class institutions in their own right. You will not go wrong by attending one or the other. However, someone saying that one school is better in "facilities, research and reputation" is full of it. Reputation in which circles? Research in what fields? Have you seen both school's facilities? In fact, in some specialties NEITHER UofC or Northwestern are the best institutions in the city. Take such judgments with a grain of salt and make your own decisions when you visit each program.
I guess I'm full of it. I have seen both schools' facilities, and was accepted to both. It was an opinion poll, so I gave my opinion. Here is what my opinion is based on:
Research: Pritzker has more than twice as much NIH funding per faculty member, and is ranked higher on the research rankings.
Facilities: Look at the US News, or any other hospital ranking system, and compare them. NU is better in Peds, but UofC is ranked higher in pretty much every other category.
Reputation: I was just going by the US News ranking, which is admittedly flawed.
People should take my opinion with a grain of salt. But I'm certainly not as biased as someone who is attending one of the institutions, like the above poster.
I guess I'm full of it. I have seen both schools' facilities, and was accepted to both. It was an opinion poll, so I gave my opinion. Here is what my opinion is based on:
Research: Pritzker has more than twice as much NIH funding per faculty member, and is ranked higher on the research rankings.
Facilities: Look at the US News, or any other hospital ranking system, and compare them. NU is better in Peds, but UofC is ranked higher in pretty much every other category.
Reputation: I was just going by the US News ranking, which is admittedly flawed.
People should take my opinion with a grain of salt. But I'm certainly not as biased as someone who is attending one of the institutions, like the above poster.
I am biased! Not afraid to admit it. NU totally rubbed me the wrong way, in almost every way. I was shocked that, in their interview process, the goal was more often to ask strange questions to "confuse" applicants, rather than to learn about them. I got asked what type of animal I wanted to be, what my favorite color was, how many hours I sleep at night, etc. I was asked more questions of this type than I was questions about medicine. My friends interviewing there had similar experiences. I thought it was totally disgusting for this to be an institutionalized policy of the university.
I don't care about the US News school rankings. The amount of NIH dollars that Pritzker and NU have per faculty member has nothing to do with US News. The hospital rankings, which place UofC above NU, can be found anywhere, including US News' hospital rankings (nothing to do with the school rankings). Granted, the "reputation" factor was from the US News list. But you could just as easily derive reputation from research dollars and hospital prestige.
I don't think that oil paintings and mahogany chairs have anything to do with most facility rankings. They have to do with the quality of the healthcare, not how pretty the buildings are.
I have been reading your posts and have been shocked at how you have been bashing the school. All this is because you did not like the panel interview format? There is a reason they ask these questions, they are trying to see what kind of personality you are and what your interests are outside of medicine. It is no reason to say all kinds of negative things about a school. JMO
I too have been reading the posts...I dont think Towlie was bashing the school...I personally think both schools are great and you cant go wrong by choosing any of the schools in chicago...but persoanally I found U of C to be my favorite for many of the same reasons mentioned by towlie...this thread was an opinion thread on which one would be chosen and why...towlie has mentioned why U of C and not Northwestern
He said U of C is better in everyway which shows extreme bias.
Well someone needs to represent how Northwestern is better...mainly for those who are trying to decide between the two schools...the only big plus I have heard for Northwestern is the location and niceness of the facilities
None is better than the other in my opinion. They are both excellent institutions and it is just a matter of how you think you fit based on interviews and second look visits.
I have been reading your posts and have been shocked at how you have been bashing the school. All this is because you did not like the panel interview format? There is a reason they ask these questions, they are trying to see what kind of personality you are and what your interests are outside of medicine. It is no reason to say all kinds of negative things about a school. JMO
Bashing the school? Not really. Just stating my opinion. Saying that UC has more research dollars per faculty members and higher ranked facilities isn't really bashing NU.
What I would bash is NU's interview process. They want to learn about "interests outside of medicine"? How does what ANIMAL I would want to be, how many hours I sleep at night, or what my favorite color is have ANYTHING to do with that? The questions are useless, and meant solely to confuse and intimidate the interviewees. I found the whole process offensive.
I think that there are many great things about NU. The area in Chicago is absolutely beautiful. The curriculum seems to give students a ton of free time to pursue other interests. However, as a school, it just wasn't for me. I don't think that you can say that any schools is truly "better" than another. But schools can be superior in certain areas, and I was merely pointing out areas that are important to me in which UC seems to be superior to NU. I didn't mean to bash NU at all.
Fair enough, but it seems that you are basing most of your arguments on US news rankings. This is not good because these rankings change all the time. Heck, Emory was no 20 a year ago and it dropped 6 spots. So, in a case like this when you are comparing schools ranked #17 and # 20, it is not good to make a choice based on just a slight diff in rankings. Who is to say that NU will not move up or down the rankings? Choose where you feel you can see yourself spending the next 4 yrs and be truly happy. Just my 2 cents
In fact, in some specialties NEITHER UofC or Northwestern are the best institutions in the city.
Um, I'm not talking about the US News School rankings. I could care less about those.
I'm talking about the US News Hospital rankings, in which UChicago and NU hospital systems are not even close.
I think it is weird that you abhor one set of US News rankings and have absolute faith in another. Don't you think the flaws in one might carry over to the other? I'm sure the U of C hospital system is better than NU, I just found this to be a strange argument considering your previous posts.
And like a previous poster said, Towelie, you do seem to go after NU pretty hard. It is not even about the content of your posts, it is just in your tone. I've read all of yourp osts on the subject and I am not really sure why you feel the need to go after a school just because you had a poor interview experence. I had schools I didn't like too (like everyone has) and I don't post on their threads with such a negative furor.
I realize it is all your opinion, but it is awfully harsh, IMHO.
I'm almost certain most of you here have visited one school of both and are supporting that one, or have visited neither and are supporting one based on hearsay.
From what I've gathered, Pritzker is much more reputable than Northwestern. I believe they have the highest rate of physicians going into academic medicine in the country. They don't kill the boards but they have a Harvard-caliber 3rd and 4th year clinical (I have a friend who went to UChic and who is now at Mass Gen, and thats what he told me).