WAMC-2024-2025 cycle Pre-dental

[nsudental]

I have a 19 AA 20 TS 15 RC and 18 PAT. My gpa is a 3.02 overall, 3.03 BCP, and 3.08 science. My post-baccalaurate gpa is a 3.79. So does that mean I need a masters with my credentials. Please tell me what schools should I keep because my purpose is to attend east coast and midwest dental schools. I also have 300 hrs of community service, 300 volunteering, 100 hours volunteering at a dental office, 770 hours working as a dental assistant, 100 hours working as a current pharmacy intern/technician and have excellent LORs, with an above decent personal statement and all my experiences look way above decent. I am a state resident of Virginia

List:
Meharry Medical College SOD
UPenn
VCU
UMD
Boston University Henry M. Goldman School of Dental Medicine
Tufts University
Temple
Rutgers
NYU
MWU-IL
KCU
East Carolina
Howard

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[macsak]

I have a 19 AA 20 TS 15 RC and 18 PAT. My gpa is a 3.02 overall, 3.03 BCP, and 3.08 science. My post-baccalaurate gpa is a 3.79. So does that mean I need a masters with my credentials. Please tell me what schools should I keep because my purpose is to attend east coast and midwest dental schools. I also have 300 hrs of community service, 300 volunteering, 100 hours volunteering at a dental office, 770 hours working as a dental assistant, 100 hours working as a current pharmacy intern/technician and have excellent LORs, with an above decent personal statement and all my experiences look way above decent. I am a state resident of Virginia

List:
Meharry Medical College SOD
UPenn
VCU
UMD
Boston University Henry M. Goldman School of Dental Medicine
Tufts University
Temple
Rutgers
NYU
MWU-IL
KCU
East Carolina
Howard

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[macsak]

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Date of submission: June 4th, 2024

Overall GPA: 3.02

Science GPA: 3.08

Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.03

Post-bacc gpa (47 credit hours): 3.8

DAT score (include AA and all sections): 19 AA, 20 TS, 20 BIO, 20 OC, 20 GC, 18 PAT, 15 RC, 18 QR

State of Residence: Virginia



Undergrad Attended: Hampton University

Major: Biology

Minor: Chemistry

Minority? Yes

Reapplicant? Yes

Nontrad? No, did a post baccalaureate DIY one with a 3.8 gpa in it.



Shadowing Experience: 150 hours-dental office

Volunteering Experience: 400 hrs at a dental office and 250 hours of community service

Employment: 770 hours as a dental assistant at a prosthodontic office

Research: 800 hours at Nanotab Inc where I did publications and summarize articles of nanoparticles

Other Extracurriculars: Leadership Inspiring Vision Group

Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? no

Relevant Honors or Awards: Certificate of being a track runner in high school 2004

LOR type and strength: 1 from a dentist I worked with, 2 from science professors which are also strong

School list:

Meharry Medical College SOD

UPenn

VCU

UMD

Boston University Henry M. Goldman School of Dental Medicine

Tufts University

Temple

Rutgers

NYU

MWU-IL

KCU

East Carolina

Howard

I would like to know what east coast/midwest dental schools I can be able to add more here

 

[macsak]

Date of submission: June 4th, 2024

Overall GPA: 3.02

Science GPA: 3.08

Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.03

Post-bacc gpa (47 credit hours): 3.8

DAT score (include AA and all sections): 19 AA, 20 TS, 20 BIO, 20 OC, 20 GC, 18 PAT, 15 RC, 18 QR

State of Residence: Virginia



Undergrad Attended: Hampton University

Major: Biology

Minor: Chemistry

Minority? Yes

Reapplicant? Yes

Nontrad? No, did a post baccalaureate DIY one with a 3.8 gpa in it.



Shadowing Experience: 150 hours-dental office

Volunteering Experience: 400 hrs at a dental office and 250 hours of community service

Employment: 770 hours as a dental assistant at a prosthodontic office

Research: 800 hours at Nanotab Inc where I did publications and summarize articles of nanoparticles

Other Extracurriculars: Leadership Inspiring Vision Group

Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? no

Relevant Honors or Awards: Certificate of being a track runner in high school 2004

LOR type and strength: 1 from a dentist I worked with, 2 from science professors which are also strong

School list:

Meharry Medical College SOD

UPenn

VCU

UMD

Boston University Henry M. Goldman School of Dental Medicine

Tufts University

Temple

Rutgers

NYU

MWU-IL

KCU

East Carolina

Howard

I would like to know what east coast/midwest dental schools I can be able to add more here

are you URM?
when were you in undergrad?
when did you complete postbacc?
when are you completing your pharmd? what's your gpa in pharmd?
how many times have you taken dat? when and what were your scores?

 

[nsudental]

are you URM?
when were you in undergrad?
when did you complete postbacc?
when are you completing your pharmd? what's your gpa in pharmd?
how many times have you taken dat? when and what were your scores?

yes i am a URM.
i graduated with my bachelors in 2010
I will be completing pharmD next year.....PharmD gpa is 3.4
I have taken DAT 4 times
I completed post bacc in June 2020

Btw I am not pursuing a pharmD degree because I am just taking additional classes that meet the dental schools minimum semester hours.

 

[macsak]

yes i am a URM.
i graduated with my bachelors in 2010
I will be completing pharmD next year.....PharmD gpa is 3.4
I have taken DAT 4 times
I completed post bacc in June 2020

when was postbacc?
what courses did you take?
please list each dat breakdown with year...

 

[nsudental]

when was postbacc?
what courses did you take?
please list each dat breakdown with year...

June 2020
I have taken biology, chemistry and physics courses
2014
17 AA, 19 TS, 20 PAT, 18 BIO, 20 GC, 19 OC, 14 RC, and 16 QR
2015
18 AA, 19 TS, 19 PAT, 17 BIO, 22 GC, 22 OC, 14 RC, and 17 QR
2017
18 AA, 20 TS, 19 PAT, 21 BIO, 17 GC, 23 OC, 15 RC, and 14 QR
2020
19 AA, 20 TS, 18 PAT, 20 BIO, 20 GC, 20 OC, 15 RC, and 18 PAT.

 

[macsak]

June 2020
I have taken biology, chemistry and physics courses
2014
17 AA, 19 TS, 20 PAT, 18 BIO, 20 GC, 19 OC, 14 RC, and 16 QR
2015
18 AA, 19 TS, 19 PAT, 17 BIO, 22 GC, 22 OC, 14 RC, and 17 QR
2017
18 AA, 20 TS, 19 PAT, 21 BIO, 17 GC, 23 OC, 15 RC, and 14 QR
2020
19 AA, 20 TS, 18 PAT, 20 BIO, 20 GC, 20 OC, 15 RC, and 18 PAT.

i admire your perseverance and steady improvement on dat

how many cycles have you applied?
please list year(s), what schools you applied to each year, and what schools you interviewed at and what was the result...

 

[nsudental]

5 cycles

i admire your perseverance and steady improvement on dat

how many cycles have you applied?
please list year(s), what schools you applied to each year, and what schools you interviewed at and what was the result...

5 cycles

 

[nsudental]

I applied to UDM, IU, BU, tufts, mwu-il, kcu and interviewed at UDM, IU, BU, and tufts. none of them were acceptances, but a waitlist at BU

 

[macsak]

I applied to UDM, IU, BU, tufts, mwu-il, kcu and interviewed at UDM, IU, BU, and tufts. none of them were acceptances, but a waitlist at BU

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sorry
please list all schools and results and year for every cycle...

 

[nsudental]

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oops
sorry
please list all schools and results and year for every cycle..

With a 2.79 gpa undergraduate applied to udm and interviewed and got denied
with a 2.90 gpa undergrad gpa halfway finishing my post bacc(gpa was a 3.71) in 2019 i interviewed at IU and got denied
with a 3.02 gpa undergrad completed my post bacc(gpa was a 3.79) i interviewed at UDM, IU, BU and got waitlised at BU and denied at the rest of them.
with a 3.02 gpa and 3.79 post bacc gpa i interviewed at BU and Tufts and got denied at all of them.

 

[macsak]

With a 2.79 gpa undergraduate applied to udm and interviewed and got denied
with a 2.90 gpa undergrad gpa halfway finishing my post bacc(gpa was a 3.71) in 2019 i interviewed at IU and got denied
with a 3.02 gpa undergrad completed my post bacc(gpa was a 3.79) i interviewed at UDM, IU, BU and got waitlised at BU and denied at the rest of them.
with a 3.02 gpa and 3.79 post bacc gpa i interviewed at BU and Tufts and got denied at all of them.

that's 4
and you only listed one year...

 

[nsudental]

that's 4
and you only listed one year...

it was 4 not 5

 

[macsak]

it was 4 not 5

WAMC-2024-2025 cycle Pre-dental

I have a 19 AA 20 TS 15 RC and 18 PAT. My gpa is a 3.02 overall, 3.03 BCP, and 3.08 science. My post-baccalaurate gpa is a 3.79. So does that mean I need a masters with my credentials. Please tell me what schools should I keep because my purpose is to attend east coast and midwest dental...

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sorry for all the questions, but i need to know all the details
what years were each of the 4 cycles and which schools did you apply to?

 

[nsudental]

WAMC-2024-2025 cycle Pre-dental

I have a 19 AA 20 TS 15 RC and 18 PAT. My gpa is a 3.02 overall, 3.03 BCP, and 3.08 science. My post-baccalaurate gpa is a 3.79. So does that mean I need a masters with my credentials. Please tell me what schools should I keep because my purpose is to attend east coast and midwest dental...

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sorry for all the questions, but i need to know all the details
what years were each of the 4 cycles and which schools did you apply to?

2018 UDM interview, denied admissions
2019 IU interview, denied admissions
2020 UDM, IU, BU interviews.....denied UDM and IU, but BU Waitlisted
2021 BU and Tufts interview, both denied admissions

 

[macsak]

2018 UDM interview, denied admissions
2019 IU interview, denied admissions
2020 UDM, IU, BU interviews.....denied UDM and IU, but BU Waitlisted
2021 BU and Tufts interview, both denied admissions

IU - indiana or iowa?
what schools did you apply to each year?
sorry once again, but i like to have all the details in hand before i answer...

 

[macsak]

IU - indiana or iowa?
what schools did you apply to each year?
sorry once again, but i like to have all the details in hand before i answer...

and why are you giving up on pharmacy when you are not even done with school?

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Did any of the schools that interviewed you gave you any advice or connections with potential mentors? Who has been your mentor throughout this application process, or even during your postbacs?

Were you ever involved with mentoring programs for aspiring Blacks going into medicine or dentistry? Have you ever been involved with SNDA, NDA, SNPhA, or their state-related chapters?

Why did you not apply to the HBCU dental schools?

The big issue is that stubborn RC that is below 17 in all of your attempts.

 

[macsak]

and why are you giving up on pharmacy when you are not even done with school?

have you checked with your school list to see if they will accept your DAT from 2020?
have you checked with your school list if they will accept your prereqs from 2010? and your post bacc was a while ago too

 

[macsak]

and why are you giving up on pharmacy when you are not even done with school?

oh, sorry
i missed your post explaining this above...

 

[nsudental]

IU - indiana or iowa?
what schools did you apply to each year?
sorry once again, but i like to have all the details in hand before i answer...

IU means Indiana University. I applied to Marquette, Temple, NYU, Howard, LECOM, MOSDOH, ASDOH, Minnesota, Ohio State, Louisville, MWU-IL, and Iowa.

 

[nsudental]

have you checked with your school list to see if they will accept your DAT from 2020?
have you checked with your school list if they will accept your prereqs from 2010? and your post bacc was a while ago too

yes they will. yes they will accept my prerequesites from 2019 and 2020

 

[nsudental]

Did any of the schools that interviewed you gave you any advice or connections with potential mentors? Who has been your mentor throughout this application process, or even during your postbacs?

Were you ever involved with mentoring programs for aspiring Blacks going into medicine or dentistry? Have you ever been involved with SNDA, NDA, SNPhA, or their state-related chapters?

Why did you not apply to the HBCU dental schools?

The big issue is that stubborn RC that is below 17 in all of your attempts.

1. No
2. yes, no
3. I did and I am going to apply to Meharry this cycle
4. Will the 15 RC going to hurt me or I am good enough to apply. I was told by UPenn yesterday I can apply to their school with my current DAT scores and GPAs.

 

[nsudental]

oh, sorry
i missed your post explaining this above...

I was told by Dr. Kasberg from BU that my post bacc gpa of 3.79 is unimpressive and I was like hmmm?? total of credit hours is 47.

 

[macsak]

yes they will. yes they will accept my prerequesites from 2019 and 2020

great

 

[nsudental]

great

Does NYU do a full 100% traditional interview and does not ask any ethical scenario based questions?

 

[macsak]

1. No
2. yes, no
3. I did and I am going to apply to Meharry this cycle
4. Will the 15 RC going to hurt me or I am good enough to apply. I was told by UPenn yesterday I can apply to their school with my current DAT scores and GPAs.

did you upenn say you would be competitive?

 

[nsudental]

did you upenn say you would be competitive?

they did not say anything about that but said I can still apply with my scores

 

[macsak]

IU means Indiana University. I applied to Marquette, Temple, NYU, Howard, LECOM, MOSDOH, ASDOH, Minnesota, Ohio State, Louisville, MWU-IL, and Iowa.

you applied to all of these schools all 4 years?
it makes it easier to give you suggestions with all the info, so that's why all the questions...

 

[nsudental]

you applied to all of these schools all 4 years?
it makes it easier to give you suggestions with all the info, so that's why all the questions...

yes and some of it is without the post bacc that i finished with a 3.79

 

[nsudental]

you applied to all of these schools all 4 years?
it makes it easier to give you suggestions with all the info, so that's why all the questions...

Does NYU do a full 100% traditional interview and does not ask any ethical scenario based questions?

 

[macsak]

Does NYU do a full 100% traditional interview and does not ask any ethical scenario based questions?

i don't know
there are threads for each school every year that you could research through...

 

[macsak]

they did not say anything about that but said I can still apply with my scores

ok
your GPAs and DATs are significantly lower than their averages, so you need to understand the odds if you want to apply here

 

[macsak]

1. No
2. yes, no
3. I did and I am going to apply to Meharry this cycle
4. Will the 15 RC going to hurt me or I am good enough to apply. I was told by UPenn yesterday I can apply to their school with my current DAT scores and GPAs.

your best chances are at the HBCUs, so it's good that you are finally applying to the two schools

a ton of schools have DAT score cutoffs, so you need to look into that
and since dental school requires lots of reading, having consistent 14/15 in RC is not good
it obviously hasn't stopped you from getting invites in the past though...

 

[macsak]

2018 UDM interview, denied admissions
2019 IU interview, denied admissions
2020 UDM, IU, BU interviews.....denied UDM and IU, but BU Waitlisted
2021 BU and Tufts interview, both denied admissions

even considering it was over 4 cycles, 7 interviews and only one WL means that you really need to work on your interview skills...

 

[macsak]

Date of submission: June 4th, 2024

Overall GPA: 3.02

Science GPA: 3.08

Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.03

Post-bacc gpa (47 credit hours): 3.8

DAT score (include AA and all sections): 19 AA, 20 TS, 20 BIO, 20 OC, 20 GC, 18 PAT, 15 RC, 18 QR

State of Residence: Virginia



Undergrad Attended: Hampton University

Major: Biology

Minor: Chemistry

Minority? Yes

Reapplicant? Yes

Nontrad? No, did a post baccalaureate DIY one with a 3.8 gpa in it.



Shadowing Experience: 150 hours-dental office

Volunteering Experience: 400 hrs at a dental office and 250 hours of community service

Employment: 770 hours as a dental assistant at a prosthodontic office

Research: 800 hours at Nanotab Inc where I did publications and summarize articles of nanoparticles

Other Extracurriculars: Leadership Inspiring Vision Group

Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? no

Relevant Honors or Awards: Certificate of being a track runner in high school 2004

LOR type and strength: 1 from a dentist I worked with, 2 from science professors which are also strong

School list:

Meharry Medical College SOD

UPenn

VCU

UMD

Boston University Henry M. Goldman School of Dental Medicine

Tufts University

Temple

Rutgers

NYU

MWU-IL

KCU

East Carolina

Howard

I would like to know what east coast/midwest dental schools I can be able to add more here

i already posted about upenn and ecu and the 2 hbcus
how come no indiana, they offered you interviews twice?
if you are going to have KCU on your list, you might as well add the other new shools too (as long as you understand the potential pitfalls of new schools)

 

[nsudental]

i already posted about upenn and ecu and the 2 hbcus
how come no indiana, they offered you interviews twice?
if you are going to have KCU on your list, you might as well add the other new shools too (as long as you understand the potential pitfalls of new schools)

should I add UPenn??

 

[nsudental]

i already posted about upenn and ecu and the 2 hbcus
how come no indiana, they offered you interviews twice?
if you are going to have KCU on your list, you might as well add the other new shools too (as long as you understand the potential pitfalls of new schools)

Add Lincoln Memorial, High Point, and what other new dental schools???

 

[macsak]

should I add UPenn??

you need to decide that for yourself
i already told you what i think about upenn...

 

[macsak]

Add Lincoln Memorial, High Point, and what other new dental schools???

i am not saying to add them or not
please do your own research on the new schools...

edit: oops, i did say to add
sorry
i should have said you should consider adding...

 

[nsudental]

I should consider adding the new schools??

 

[macsak]

I should consider adding the new schools??

yes, you should consider adding them since you already have kcu on your list
you should also add as many privates as you can afford...

 

[nsudental]

yes, you should consider adding them since you already have kcu on your list
you should also add as many privates as you can afford...

I was told by Dr. Kasberg from BU that my post bacc gpa of 3.79 is unimpressive and I was like hmmm?? total of credit hours is 47.

 

[macsak]

I was told by Dr. Kasberg from BU that my post bacc gpa of 3.79 is unimpressive and I was like hmmm?? total of credit hours is 47.

that's the second time you have brought that up
i would suggest that you decide whether you want to reapply to BU or not and move on
applying is tough enough without adding extra baggage...

 

[Ryxndek]

Does NYU do a full 100% traditional interview and does not ask any ethical scenario based questions?

They asked me a couple ethical/moral based scenarios when I applied but this year they did Kira and Candidate day which is different.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Will the 15 RC going to hurt me or I am good enough to apply. I was told by UPenn yesterday I can apply to their school with my current DAT scores and GPAs.

You can always apply but that doesn't mean you won't get accepted. We deal in probabilities here. Maybe your personal profile shows Grit and Resilience, but we just want to point out many committees do have thresholds or expectations.

 

[nsudental]

You can always apply but that doesn't mean you won't get accepted. We deal in probabilities here. Maybe your personal profile shows Grit and Resilience, but we just want to point out many committees do have thresholds or expectations.

are my stats alone ok for UPenn?