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West Coast residency nitty gritties (shift schedules, etc)

Discussion in 'Emergency Medicine' started by forfinity08, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. forfinity08

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    My brain is overall sort of fried :scared: after all the interviews and I thought it would be helpful to share our data collecting throughout the trail.

    Anyone care to share thoughts and tid bits and details with everyone else after the interviews? Maybe it'd be helpful to organize thoughts here (I limited to West Coast to prevent this from becoming huge and not useful anymore)

    UCIrvine- 12hr shifts (20/mo as a R1 I think)
    UCLA/Olive view- ___hr shifts, 6 months of medicine during intern year
    UCLA/Harbor- ___hr shifts, 8 months call/R1, 2 months call/R2, no call R3
    USC- 12hr shifts (I think)
    UC Davis- 12hr shifts, new hospital next fall
    UCSF/Fresno- 10hr shifts, 8weeks vacation/R1
    Stanford- __hr shifts, $56k/R1
    Highland- 10hr shifts/R1, 8hr shifts/R2,3; 8wks vacation/R1, call until R4
    Loma linda- 10hr shifts, cool international opps
    UCSF/SFGH- 12hr/10hr shifts

    Did anyone else get this info? I know I wrote it down somewhere, I'll have to go back and confirm my numbers.
     
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  3. NeuroSync

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    Stanford is going to all 12s next year (unknown number per year group)
     
  4. Poncho

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    Hmmm...where did you get that information? I am chief resident at Stanford and we are certainly not going to all 12's next year. All scheduling is targeted to goal work hours with a combination of 8, 10, and 12 hour shifts.
    At Stanford and Kaiser:
    R1's - average of 56 hours per week (10's and 12's)
    R2's - average of 53 hours per week (10's and 12's)
    R3's - average of 50 hours per week. (8's, 10's, and 12's) - 8 hour supervisory shift
    This gets you an average of two days off per week and a 3 day golden weekend that you can request two-three months in advance.

    At Valley Medical Center - all shifts are 10 hours

    We also have two months of paid electives you can do internationally (i.e. you keep your salary) with a very active international program. Plus the Yale Johnson&Johnson International scholars program is moving to Stanford next year so there will be additional funding to cover travel expenses.
     
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    Thanks Poncho, that was really helpful. Anyone else care to clarify? This is what I got from the Highland PD:
    PGY 1 20 ten hour shifts 5 nights
    PGY 2 20 8 eight hours 5-6 night
    PGY 3 19 8 hours 5 nights
    PGY 4 17-18 8 hours 4-5 nights

    no one else has any info to contribute? :(
     
  6. NeuroSync

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    This was a rumor I heard...not sure now if it is true or not.

    ...not true. They will have mostly 12s with a smattering of 8s and 10s mixed in. The residents seem pretty happy with the way things are scheduled.
     
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  7. NeuroSync

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    Thanks, Poncho. I went to "The Source" and got straightened out. The residents there seem very happy with the scheduling. I was just worried that things were changing for next year. I'm glad they are not.

    One thing that was interesting to learn is that not all elective periods are paid if away from the sponsor institution. That is a very big bonus at Stanford.
     
  8. quideam

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    To add to what NeuroSync said - it's definitely true that some of the programs can NOT pay your salary if you do an international elective. Of the counties I interviewed at, USC is one of these. Highland, on the other hand, can let you go. UCSD and Stanford also allow it, though Stanford seems to encourage it more than UCSD. UC Davis didn't seem to be very enthusiastic about students doing international rotations, but then again they're a three-year program so maybe it doesn't matter because you have that 4th year to do whatever with...
     

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