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Hey guys- this is my first time posting on here. Any and all advice/suggestions/insight would be very helpful. I am a senior at high tier school with a 3.9 GPA. I took the mcat twice (1st time I got a 30, and second time I got a 27). I took the second test within a week of the first test (long story). My top choices are Hofstra, Einstein and downstate. Do I have any chance at any of these schools?? I have a Lott of research/shadowing/community service etc

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I took the mcat twice (1st time I got a 30, and second time I got a 27). I took the second test within a week of the first test (long story).
Death sentence. As adcoms on this site often say, re-taking the MCAT when you clearly aren't ready is a sign of poor judgement, and taking it a week later looks awful. Also, many schools will use your most recent MCAT score, not your highest, so your score is a 27.

Even with a 30, your chances were so-so - all of the schools you listed have a median MCAT of 33 - but with a 27 they're zero.

Do you have any reason to believe you can score higher than a 30? What were your practice tests like?
 
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You might have had a better chance if you scored 27 on the first try and didn't take the MCAT a second time, at least at some low tier MD schools. I suggest you apply to several DO schools. If you live in NY, you can apply to :

1. Touro-NY (Harlem and Middletown)
2. NYIT-COM
3. ACOM
4. VCOM (all three campuses)
5. William Carey
6. Rocky Vista
 
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Thanks for the advice guys. I was scoring between 26-32 on practice tests and I really don't know why I can't do better. At schools that only take the highest score, do you think I'm okay tho?
 

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Thanks for the advice guys. I was scoring between 26-32 on practice tests and I really don't know why I can't do better. At schools that only take the highest score, do you think I'm okay tho?
No school just takes your highest overall MCAT, as far as I know. A few schools will take your highest individual section scores for similar overall scores. E.g. if you scored a 10-10-10 for a 30 and then retook and got a 12-8-12 for a 32, those schools would consider your upper end as a 12-10-12; they won't evaluate it as a 34, but it'll look better than your highest score of a 32.

No school will ignore your 27. Had you gone from a 27 to a 30 you might be ok, but students are expected to score better on a retake, even if it's a week later.

You might consider retaking the 2014 MCAT for next cycle; this would give you time to really prepare, as well as to work on extracurriculars (medical job, heavy volunteering, something cool, etc). Is there a specific section giving you trouble/are you scoring much lower on one section every time? For example, a 10/9/11 followed by a 10/7/10 would probably look better than a 10/9/11 followed by a 9/8/10.
 
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Ugh this really sucks so much. I got a 10-10-10 on the first test and a 10-8-9 on the second (ps-verbal-bs). I hope this doesn't screw me over too much
 

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Ugh this really sucks so much. I got a 10-10-10 on the first test and a 10-8-9 on the second (ps-verbal-bs). I hope this doesn't screw me over too much
Albert Einstein - 90% of accepted students scored 31+ on the MCAT
Hofstra and SUNY Downstate - 90% of accepted students scored 30+ on the MCAT

At all of these schools, 90% of accepted students scored at least a 10 on VR and BS. Unfortunately, the only section you didn't drop on was PS, which is by far the least important.

I won't tell you not to apply to any schools, but your chances at Einstein in particular aren't stellar. If you have your heart set, though, go for it. Never know!
 

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Ugh this really sucks so much. I got a 10-10-10 on the first test and a 10-8-9 on the second (ps-verbal-bs). I hope this doesn't screw me over too much
As previously noted, a drop in MCAT is a common but overlooked possibility among re-takers. There is a reporting bias on SDN toward dramatic increases. Your case is not uncommon. Your strategy will have to be correspondingly strong to overcome this. You need at least a dozen schools where your "new " score is near the median to have a fair chance this year. This would include DO schools.
 
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Thanks for all the info and advice guys. I will definitely add more schools to my list