WHat are my CHANCES??

[JustR]

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20N on the MCAT
2 on my verbal
and 3.5 GPA
and a re-applicant.
Should I withdraw my AMCAS?

 

[Los5272]

20N on the MCAT
2 on my verbal
and 3.5 GPA
and a re-applicant.
Should I withdraw my AMCAS?

I've heard of people getting in with low MCAT's,and your gpa is good. Don't give up! Have you applied to DO schools? How are your ec's and recom letters?

 

[christinejane19]

20N on the MCAT
2 on my verbal
and 3.5 GPA
and a re-applicant.
Should I withdraw my AMCAS?

a 2? Maybe there was a mistake..u might think about getting it rescored?

Or if you think you made some type of mistake in bubbling on that section, maybe you could inform the schools you applied to...if you have a 3.5, 9's on the other sections, and good EC's and LOR's, maybe the will consider your application anyway.

 

[HopeFaith]

Maybe. But 20N on the MCAT isn't the problem per say.
a 2 on the verbal and N on the writing sample will raise red flags. If anything, the VR score seems like the only "major" problem but everything else looks good so you never know.

 

[unfrozencaveman]

a 2? Maybe there was a mistake..u might think about getting it rescored?

Or if you think you made some type of mistake in bubbling on that section, maybe you could inform the schools you applied to...if you have a 3.5, 9's on the other sections, and good EC's and LOR's, maybe the will consider your application anyway.

A 2 on verbal sounds like there must be some kind of mistake?

 

[JustR]

I had music played in the back while i took the verbal section and I am so mad.

 

[JustR]

Someelse's play and I am so sad.

 

[tacrum43]

20N on the MCAT
2 on my verbal
and 3.5 GPA
and a re-applicant.
Should I withdraw my AMCAS?

I'm pretty sure he's joking. Isn't 3 the lowest score you can get in any section?

 

[JustR]

I'm pretty sure he's joking. Isn't 3 the lowest score you can get in any section?

I wish I was joking But I am serious. If you don't believe me go ask the AMCAS. seriously.

 

[Saturnine]

I'm pretty sure he's joking. Isn't 3 the lowest score you can get in any section?

No, some (1.8%) did get a 2 on verbal. 3 is the lowest combined score you can get. http://www.aamc.org/students/mcat/examineedata/table0805.pdf

 

[tacrum43]

I wish I was joking But I am serious. If you don't believe me go ask the AMCAS. seriously.

Oh okay, sorry.

A 2 seems pretty low for anyone who can speak English. Maybe you got off by one on your answer sheet?

 

[radioh3ad]

wow dude. seriously ask for a rescore, but if your posts are any indication of your verbal reasoning, then perhaps you really do need to go through some private instruction on english comprehension. there are great programs out there.

i seriously hope you're not jerking us around.

 

[caffeine37]

Someelse's play and I am so sad.

how long have you been speaking English? I am assuming you are not a native speaker, and maybe the schools will take this into account

 

[Miss155]

Hi

I made a 4 on the verbal section and improved by 5 points. I bubbled incorrectly. Try applying to D.O., like WVSOM.

 

[szrokkhmer]

A 2 on verbal sounds like there must be some kind of mistake?

I presume that JustR had a previous MCAT score if he/she is a reapplicant. If the verbal score is similar to the previous MCAT verbal score than it is probable that it wasn't a grading or bubbling error. If the previous MCAT verbal was different, in fact higher, then it is possible that a mistake occured in the process.

Not to be discouraging, but I think it would be very difficult to defend a 2 in any section of the MCAT.

I don't know what to suggest other than that there are many ways people have become doctors in the US.

Best Regards

 

[EndSong]

Wow, I'd really try and retake it its really hard to go anywhere with a 2 in verbal.

 

[Faust]

I presume that JustR had a previous MCAT score if he/she is a reapplicant. If the verbal score is similar to the previous MCAT verbal score than it is probable that it wasn't a grading or bubbling error. If the previous MCAT verbal was different, in fact higher, then it is possible that a mistake occured in the process.

Not to be discouraging, but I think it would be very difficult to defend a 2 in any section of the MCAT.

I don't know what to suggest other than that there are many ways people have become doctors in the US.

Best Regards

SO how does one address this scenario, I think I miss bubbled on my bio section and ended up with a significantly lower score than my previous apr mcat. Our proctors messed up on the time and the light towards the back of the room turned off a few times. I approach bio by skipping around so once they sounded off the time I guessed here and there, and then they corrected the time, but by that time I was all messed up. I just emailed aamc today after receiving my score about my problem. Should I send a letter to the schools? And if so, what should I say? Thanks in advance.
Faust

 

[ClearDay]

How did you get N on the essay with a 2 on the verbal? Your verbal should be higher than this.

 

[JustR]

wow dude. seriously ask for a rescore, but if your posts are any indication of your verbal reasoning, then perhaps you really do need to go through some private instruction on english comprehension. there are great programs out there.

i seriously hope you're not jerking us around.

I am not.
I had music played when I took my verbal section
for that stupid street guy who tried to blow off my ears
god knows why
But I guess I have got the letter from the AMCAS explaining me that I was right.
I have already sent it to the schools
So I think when they see that the schools know somewhat

 

[JustR]

thanks everybody.

 

[VPDcurt]

How did you get N on the essay with a 2 on the verbal? Your verbal should be higher than this.

An "N" is really nothing to write home about.

 

[JustR]

An "N" is really nothing to write home about.

I agree I don't know how i ended up with this N, and I was so getting P and Q at my classes, and I think I had written it better than that. I should have much better thn N. Writing sample grading is totally not right from what I believe after I had the N

 

[63768]

why don't you retake the MCAT? odds are there won't be any music in the background this time. and that way you can prove to schools that it was really the music that distracted you.

i'd say don't submit anything you haven't already. hold on to the schools you've already applied at but don't hope for a miraculous acceptance. i'd say finish university/post bacc and retake the MCAT.

 

[JustR]

why don't you retake the MCAT? odds are there won't be any music in the background this time. and that way you can prove to schools that it was really the music that distracted you.

i'd say don't submit anything you haven't already. hold on to the schools you've already applied at but don't hope for a miraculous acceptance. i'd say finish university/post bacc and retake the MCAT.

I did not say I was doing a Post bacc or anything??

 

[GujjuNo1]

I agree I don't know how i ended up with this N, and I was so getting P and Q at my classes, and I think I had written it better than that. I should have much better thn N. Writing sample grading is totally not right from that's what I believe after I had the N

Hey JustR - I just had to respond after reading some of your posts....

My advice - go to international MD school. Retaking MCAT does not gurantee anything unless you think this 2 is just a mistake (but this is second time you took MCAT so you should know...)

Proper education is imporant to be a good doctor. MORE IMPORTANTLY - communication skills, passion to help and desire to become a MD is vital. The question is - will going international provide "proper" medical education? (Seeing how many FMG practice here i think the answer is yes).

Cheer UP!!! (I know it is tough said than done in your situation. I have been through some rejections myself and felt the same way as you).

Good Luck - You are going to be just fine.

 

[63768]

I did not say I was doing a Post bacc or anything??

no you did not. you didn't say anything about your current activities, so i was assuming you were still in college or postbacc studies. i didn't mean to offend you. whatever you are doing right now, my advice would still apply.

 

[JustR]

no you did not. you didn't say anything about your current activities, so i was assuming you were still in college or postbacc studies. i didn't mean to offend you. whatever you are doing right now, my advice would still apply.

thanks... I will see... I don't know.. I may drop all of these because
1) No good MCAT
2) it was the third time I took the MCAT
3) I am doing nothing but taking random class as a non-degree student
4) I applied last time with a better score than I have this time and I did not get in, so I won't get in this year either.
5) I can't move too far from home because My parents depend on me
6) I hate one person and I won't say who for god heaven's shake.
7) it's another year
8) the reasons continue to drop my AMCAS

 

[caffeine37]

thanks... I will see... I don't know.. I may drop all of these because
1) No good MCAT
2) it was the third time I took the MCAT
3) I am doing nothing but taking random class as a non-degree student
4) I applied last time with a better score than I have this time and I did not get in, so I won't get in this year either.
5) I can't move too far from home because My parents depend on me
6) I hate one person and I won't say who for god heaven's shake.
7) it's another year
8) the reasons continue to drop my AMCAS

what were your previous verbal scores? If you want to apply next year I would look for a good private English tutor and learn the basic grammar and reading comprehension. you did OK in the science sections, don't give up

 

[bio-chik]

Do you have a pattern of low verbal scores if you've taken the MCAT 3 times???

I would recommend taking some English courses, to help with your low verbal score. From your posts your grammar isn't the best and it's hard to understand, so not to sound harsh, but the only way to recover from a low verbal score is to take some graduate level English courses to compensate for the low score. Or just apply to DO schools and there you might at least get an interview.

thanks... I will see... I don't know.. I may drop all of these because
1) No good MCAT
2) it was the third time I took the MCAT
3) I am doing nothing but taking random class as a non-degree student
4) I applied last time with a better score than I have this time and I did not get in, so I won't get in this year either.
5) I can't move too far from home because My parents depend on me
6) I hate one person and I won't say who for god heaven's shake.
7) it's another year
8) the reasons continue to drop my AMCAS

 

[JustR]

Do you have a pattern of low verbal scores if you've taken the MCAT 3 times???

I would recommend taking some English courses, to help with your low verbal score. From your posts your grammar isn't the best and it's hard to understand, so not to sound harsh, but the only way to recover from a low verbal score is to take some graduate level English courses to compensate for the low score. Or just apply to DO schools and there you might at least get an interview.

I don't want to be a DO, but I will think about it. thanks

 

[jebus]

Hey JustR - I just had to respond after reading some of your posts....

My advice - go to international MD school. Retaking MCAT does not gurantee anything unless you think this 2 is just a mistake (but this is second time you took MCAT so you should know...)

Proper education is imporant to be a good doctor. MORE IMPORTANTLY - communication skills, passion to help and desire to become a MD is vital. The question is - will going international provide "proper" medical education? (Seeing how many FMG practice here i think the answer is yes).

Cheer UP!!! (I know it is tough said than done in your situation. I have been through some rejections myself and felt the same way as you).

Good Luck - You are going to be just fine.

R, GujjuNo1 has a lot of good points. I want to register my support for the international route. I know a lot of very good Indian physicians, both in the States and in India. I really admire the medical education they receive, they are very good communicators and fantastic listeners. I considered that route, as well. But I know no Hindi or any other Indian dialect. So, that's not in my cards, but it could be in yours and I think it would be a prudent choice. Also, there is a possibility you could return to the States after your education, I'm sure you know there are a lot of Indian physicians in the States.
If you are uninterested in that, and I think that's the case, I would also suggest an English tutor. Not only will you increase your VR score, but there is a possibility it may improve your PS and BS scores. You did well in PS and BS, too. Whatever is holding you back in VR is probably holding you back elsewhere. I'm positive you can show your full potential.
I know this is a lot to think about, and it probably seems like people are really beating up on you. That's not the case. We all want to see you succeed. And I think we all believe you will succeed. It's difficult to help you unless you take some time to think about where your problems lie - is it reading comprehension or discomfort with the language or something else? That's a question you will need to think about. And when you think you've got an answer we'll be here to help.

 

[JustR]

R, GujjuNo1 has a lot of good points. I want to register my support for the international route. I know a lot of very good Indian physicians, both in the States and in India. I really admire the medical education they receive, they are very good communicators and fantastic listeners. I considered that route, as well. But I know no Hindi or any other Indian dialect. So, that's not in my cards, but it could be in yours and I think it would be a prudent choice. Also, there is a possibility you could return to the States after your education, I'm sure you know there are a lot of Indian physicians in the States.
If you are uninterested in that, and I think that's the case, I would also suggest an English tutor. Not only will you increase your VR score, but there is a possibility it may improve your PS and BS scores. You did well in PS and BS, too. Whatever is holding you back in VR is probably holding you back elsewhere. I'm positive you can show your full potential.
I know this is a lot to think about, and it probably seems like people are really beating up on you. That's not the case. We all want to see you succeed. And I think we all believe you will succeed. It's difficult to help you unless you take some time to think about where your problems lie - is it reading comprehension or discomfort with the language or something else? That's a question you will need to think about. And when you think you've got an answer we'll be here to help.

thanks I will try my best and see what goes and what not

Thank you all.... 😀 😀
But I am so sad.. that's all.
sad and happy they can't be together
and what I see in reality is more of the sadness
than the happiness
But oh welll
whatever is going to happen will happen
see ya later all

 

[gogo110182]

I don't want to be a DO, but I will think about it. thanks

2 on VR will not get you anywhere in the US, not even DO, sound harsh?? hey, that's the reality....

 

[Comrade]

2 on VR will not get you anywhere in the US, not even DO, sound harsh?? hey, that's the reality....

i think this is a joke. but the joke's really on us for getting sucked into another what are my chances thread. to get a 2 on the VR, i think you have to physically assault the proctor and throw them down a staircase.

 

[frany584]

Originally posted by Comrade
i think this is a joke. but the joke's really on us for getting sucked into another what are my chances thread. to get a 2 on the VR, i think you have to physically assault the proctor and throw them down a staircase.

if you go into the MCAT forum there are PLENTY of ppl who did not do so hot on the verbal. perhaps you may find that section "impossible to get a 2", but others may not and i know JustR is serious about what she scored because she has also posted her concerns in the MCAT forums, along with the rest of us.

 

[JustR]

if you go into the MCAT forum there are PLENTY of ppl who did not do so hot on the verbal. perhaps you may find that section "impossible to get a 2", but others may not and i know JustR is serious about what she scored because she has also posted her concerns in the MCAT forums, along with the rest of us.

sad with 2 on my verbal. 🙁 🙁 🙁

 

[docsuz]

Just curious where did you go to undergrad, and what is your science GPA? Perhaps that could help.

 

[docsuz]

One more question that would help Justr, what was your MCAT score the first go around?

 

[JustR]

One more question that would help Justr, what was your MCAT score the first go around?

15 M

 

[Elysium]

Here's the final analysis: no med school in this country is going to accept you with a 2 in verbal. Nobody. I mean, you clearly can't communicate very well in english, which, after all is kinda important if you want to practice medicine in this country. How in the hell do you think you're going to be able to get through the rigors of med school (and I know cause I've been through first year) with reading comprehension in the >10% range? I mean, seriously. This may come as a surprise, but the classes are conducted in english, which clearly is not your strong suit. I shudder to think of how you're going to do on the boards, provided you get to that point.

 

[gujuDoc]

i think this is a joke. but the joke's really on us for getting sucked into another what are my chances thread. to get a 2 on the VR, i think you have to physically assault the proctor and throw them down a staircase.

No trust me when I say this............

It is POSSIBLE to get below a 4 on a given section. I know a personl that took it when I originally took it in August 2004 who got a .............

TOTAL SCORE: 4, 3, 2, = 9


Sad but true. Such said person lacked any real motivation to study for the test, and is not comparable to JustR.

JustR did actually get a 2, and has posted on the MCAT forum about it. R, needs improvement in her Verbal.

R,
But I think you should consider the Carribean schools if you do not want to retake with special permission again.

Otherwise get the special permission, start making reading your best friend, go to the educational center that teaches with reading skills and what not or take a reading class. And practice like crazy and figure out what went wrong. And if it was the testing center, try to find a better testing center if possible. with whatever your decision may be.

 

[Flopotomist]

I thought that 3 was the lowest score that you could get... *shrug* but assuming that this post is real, I would forego spending a year studying English. Clearly, a year will not move you from a 2 to a 10, so I would look at international medical schools (Ross, St. Georges). If you work very very hard, and get decent board scores, you can still compete for spots in most specialties residency programs. Have you also considered what your motivation is for wanting to work in healthcare, and if those motivations would be fulfilled by working in an allied health role (eg PA or nursing?). In any case, I wish you much luck, and hope that whatever path you find yourself on, that it leads to fulfullment. Good luck!

 

[gujuDoc]

I thought that 3 was the lowest score that you could get... *shrug* but assuming that this post is real, I would forego spending a year studying English. Clearly, a year will not move you from a 2 to a 10, so I would look at international medical schools (Ross, St. Georges). If you work very very hard, and get decent board scores, you can still compete for spots in most specialties residency programs. Have you also considered what your motivation is for wanting to work in healthcare, and if those motivations would be fulfilled by working in an allied health role (eg PA or nursing?). In any case, I wish you much luck, and hope that whatever path you find yourself on, that it leads to fulfullment. Good luck!

No 3 is the lowest TOTAL score, meaning if someone got a 1, 1, 1 then they'd get a 3.

It IS NOT the lowest subscore a person can get.

Oh and I DO no someone who got 4, 3, 2 breakdown on the real deal.

So it IS DEFINITELY possible to get a 2 in a section.

 

[JustR]

So it IS DEFINITELY possible to get a 2 in a section.

I am the living proof, and I am so shameful. 😳

 

[Dr. Who MD]

JustR, are you a native english speaker? Can you speak any other languages? Do you read a lot?

 

[Rendar5]

I agree with Elysium. You will most likely not be able to get into any US or Canadian medical school. Osteopathic or Allopathic. I would consider it a waste of money to even try. Your English abilities are subpar, and that is what you will have to learn in. Also, having taken the MCATs 3 times is a major problem.

If you want to raise that 2, you will need to become fluent in english (reading and writing abilities, I can't judge ur speaking abilities, as u might be fluent in terms of speaking). And then you will need to just start reading random junk all the time for fun. read trashy romance novels (1 a week), or every article in the wall street journal, or Harry Potter books or War and Peace. Just something that you will enjoy. And keep doing it for a couple months. That could possibly raise ur verbal several points (it either will or it won't. I've heard of people raising their scores several points before. u won't know til u take a few practice tests and see). However, since u've taken it 3 times, I don't know how hard it will be to take it again.

The truth: either give up, figure a way to take the MCATs again with at least an 8 or 9 on Verbal, or apply to a foreign school and realize that you will fail out if u can't handle the materia (this I can't judge. you may be fine and just have poor english skills).