what are my chances?

[truthseeker]

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I have three DUIs on my record, I am a convicted pedophile. I have been caught defrauding Medicare, but only once. I failed my licensure exam the first three times I took it. But I really, really want to be the president of the APTA. Its something that I have wanted to do for a long time.

What are my chances of being the APTA president? I realize that I messed up, but I'm sorry. I really want to be APTA president.

Help?

 

[mshake]

Haha! This post gets an A+.

 

[MinnDasota]

I wouldn't worry about those minor flaws in your past. You got my vote! I would focus on bigger issues that reflect on your character.

 

[Kyra4dpt]

awesome!

 

[MotionDoc]

Truth:

Relatively speaking, while repeated ethical blemishes in life correlate very well to severe character flaws, repeated academic blemishes in academia do not correlate very well with academic ineptitude. If they did, applications would strictly be a numbers game, and you and I both know that isn't true.

I can tell you a story of a friend of mine who is starting at Harvard Med in the fall with a 3.5 GPA and a 32 MCAT, and a number of Cs. If it were a numbers game, would he have gotten into the premier educational university in the world for one of the most competitive professions? ...just maybe other factors played into the decision (and his is not the only striking example I can give).

While I understand the reasoning behind your posts on this subject, to squash the hopes of would be servants (since that is what we do isn't it?), can have catastrophic consequences that we can get into later if you would like.

-MotionD

 

[MotionDoc]

Truth:
I can tell you a story of a friend of mine who is starting at Harvard Med in the fall with a 3.5 GPA and a 32 MCAT, and a number of Cs. If it were a numbers game, would he have gotten into the premier educational university in the world for one of the most competitive professions? ...just maybe other factors played into the decision (and his is not the only striking example I can give).
-MotionD

my point is that when considering an application, academic numbers are a poor reflection of not just ability, but intellect as well. If other areas of the application do not show the ability to succeed in an academic environment, then I agree with you...

 

[lee9786]

would be servants (since that is what we do isn't it?)-MotionD

Could you elaborate on this one?

 

[truthseeker]

"repeated academic blemishes in academia do not correlate very well with academic ineptitude. "


I am afraid the above statement is absolutely NOT true. Repeated blemishes most certainly does correlate. Isolated blemishes, no, but repeated behaviour indicates a tendency or a pattern. If you say otherwise, how should admissions determine who gets into programs?

 

[mtm34]

ha thats good stuff, legendary post

 

[jesspt]

"repeated academic blemishes in academia do not correlate very well with academic ineptitude. "


I am afraid the above statement is absolutely NOT true. Repeated blemishes most certainly does correlate. Isolated blemishes, no, but repeated behaviour indicates a tendency or a pattern. If you say otherwise, how should admissions determine who gets into programs?

I agree with True 100% In fact, Riddle, et al, looked at this very thing when they identified variables which predict whether a student will struggle once they get accepted to PT school. Guess what? Poor Undergrad GPA and the GRE scores, two things that get routinely blasted on this site because they don't give the "full picture", were among the predictive variables.

 

[lee9786]

I agree with True 100% In fact, Riddle, et al, looked at this very thing when they identified variables which predict whether a student will struggle once they get accepted to PT school. Guess what? Poor Undergrad GPA and the GRE scores, two things that get routinely blasted on this site because they don't give the "full picture", were among the predictive variables.

The study shows people ages >27 have more difficulty than younger students regardless of GPA. I found that interesting. I wonder if the applicants over 27 are looked at less favorably than younger candidates. Funny.. I thought it would be the other way around.

 

[MIDPT2012]

The study shows people ages >27 have more difficulty than younger students regardless of GPA. I found that interesting. I wonder if the applicants over 27 are looked at less favorably than younger candidates. Funny.. I thought it would be the other way around.

I'm 31 and finishing my first semester of PT school. I think being older is a disadvantage for me for 2 reasons.
1. I haven't had to study this hard in 10 years! Working is a totally different lifestyle than school, and my study habits are a bit rusty.
2. I have more competing interests now that I'm older. A house, a husband, a dog, a part-time job with some stress, friends that don't understand what finals week feels like any more.

So it's a challenge, but I still love it and wouldn't give up where I am right now for anything. Even though it can be hard to focus at times, I know that I made the right decision, and even though school may seem stressful, it's nothing compared to a last minute board meeting presentation with a CFO of a fortune 500 company.

Being a student with a syllabus is much easier than working for multiple middle managers that always are changing the directions.

I don't think being older influenced the preferences of my university. If anything, I think it made it a bit easier for me since I bring some diversity to the classroom. I'm not 22 and a Kiniseology major.