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Hi All,

I'm a nontraditional student, left a career in sales in the electronic manufacturing industry after climbing the corporate ladder and realizing it's not where I wanted to be. Ended up selling our home and 2 new cars to downsize our lifestyle and go back to school.

Went back to school 3 years ago with wife and 3 young kids in tow, graduating this summer with a B.S. in psychology and looking to apply this upcoming cycle for medical schools.

Stats:
3.85 GPA
MCAT- get my scores soon, scored 35-36 on most practice tests but felt like on actual MCAT I did worse, so expecting a low 30's score.

EC's:
Outpatient Surgery Center: volunteered around 150hrs over 1.5 years
Shadowed a D.O. general surgeon around 30hrs, planning on shadowing a M.D. family physician in May for another 15-25 hours
Chess: play competitive chess, including state champ for my class and give free lessons once a month to kids at local library
Music: play local coffee shops with friends, but I view it just as a stress-relieving hobby. I play the guitar, mandolin, and bass.
Community service: My family and I volunteer and do trail restoration locally in forests, I teach bible studies in the community for the last 4 years, we're currently being trained in a RESPITE program that takes in troubled kids in foster care for a weekend at a time to give foster families a break.

I have a passion for life-long learning and have always tremendously enjoyed working with people. I feel that medicine is the perfect career for me, it just took me a bit to figure it out.

I just ordered the MSAR to look at schools, not interested in research-heavy schools but more primary care oriented with a social mission. If I have a shot, any recommendations are appreciated!
 
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Hi All,

I'm a nontraditional student, left a career in sales in the electronic manufacturing industry after climbing the corporate ladder and realizing it's not where I wanted to be. Ended up selling our home and 2 new cars to downsize our lifestyle and go back to school.

Went back to school 3 years ago with wife and 3 young kids in tow, graduating this summer with a B.S. in psychology and looking to apply this upcoming cycle for medical schools.

Stats:
3.85 GPA
MCAT- get my scores soon, scored 35-36 on most practice tests but felt like on actual MCAT I did worse, so expecting a low 30's score.

EC's:
Outpatient Surgery Center: volunteered around 150hrs over 1.5 years
Shadowed a D.O. general surgeon around 30hrs, planning on shadowing a M.D. family physician in May for another 15-25 hours
Chess: play competitive chess, including state champ for my class and give free lessons once a month to kids at local library
Music: play local coffee shops with friends, but I view it just as a stress-relieving hobby. I play the guitar, mandolin, and bass.
Community service: My family and I volunteer and do trail restoration locally in forests, I teach bible studies in the community for the last 4 years, we're currently being trained in a RESPITE program that takes in troubled kids in foster care for a weekend at a time to give foster families a break.

I have a passion for life-long learning and have always tremendously enjoyed working with people. I feel that medicine is the perfect career for me, it just took me a bit to figure it out.

I just ordered the MSAR to look at schools, not interested in research-heavy schools but more primary care oriented with a social mission. If I have a shot, any recommendations are appreciated!
You might like to download this google.doc spreadsheet data (an SDN collaborative effort from 5/11), so you can fill in your own (projected) stats, and it will tell you for which US med schools you're competitive with different MCAT outcome scenarios. Next look at the in-state matriculation data before you do further research on each school for "fit," removing any from your list that take more than 85% in-state students (cut points vary, that just happens to be mine): https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmKVGWwobG5GdEx2MjlBTDE0bXFXNGFZczZqYTZKb2c&hl=en_US#gid=0

Then cross-correlate the list with the mission statements in your copy of the MSAR.

Once you know your score and have a list, it can be critiqued here for factors that aren't apparent from either of those two sources.
 

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Got my MCAT score back yesterday = 32

Here is a tentative list, any/all input is appreciated. Hoping to cross a lot off if you guys see some red flags.

Southern Cal-Keck
Stanford
Colorado
Connecticut
Chicago Med-Franklin
Loyola-Stritch
Rush
Kentucky
Harvard
Tufts
Maryland
Michigan
Oakland Beaumont
Mayo
Albany
Cornell-Weill
Einstein
New York Medical OH Case Western
Cincinnati
Toledo
OHSU (in-state, would be my first choice)
Drexel
Jefferson V
Penn State
Eastern Virginia
Virginia Commonwealth
Vermont
Marshall-Edwards
 
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My comments in red reflect my recollections and suggest more research needs to be done. I didn't mess with some of your reaches, because dream schools are OK, too.
CA Loma Linda Be sure you've read their on-line Lifestyle Contract and can live with it.
Southern Cal-Keck
Stanford Research oriented
CO Colorado They seem to like more clinical experience than you have. Used to require 500 hours.
CT Connecticut
IL Chicago Med-Franklin
Loyola-Stritch
Rush
KY Kentucky
MA Harvard You can dream, but it's a very expensive Secondary.
Tufts
MD Maryland
MI Michigan
Oakland Beaumont
MN Mayo Seem to like a lot of research
NH Dartmouth
NY Albany
Cornell-Weill Research-oriented
Einstein
New York Medical
OH Case Western Research oriented.
Cincinnati
Toledo
OR Oregon
PA Commonwealth Aims to train docs for rural NE Pa
Drexel
Jefferson
Penn State Requires a research thesis
VA Eastern Virginia
Virginia Commonwealth
VT Vermont
WV Marshall-Edwards Need strong state ties or contiguous state residency.
 

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Thanks, familiar with Loma Linda, dad is alumni from dental school, my family is vegetarian and protestant so ok with their lifestyle requirements.

My father-in-law is a longtime Stanford bigwig of their linear acceleration center, would be nice to have family close but definitely a reach school.

List looks like:
CA Loma Linda .
Southern Cal-Keck
Stanford
CO Colorado
CT Connecticut
IL Chicago Med-Franklin
Loyola-Stritch
Rush
KY Kentucky
Tufts
MD Maryland
MI Michigan
Oakland Beaumont
NH Dartmouth
NY Albany
Einstein
New York Medical
Cincinnati
Toledo
OHSU (in-state)
Drexel
Jefferson
VA Eastern Virginia
Virginia Commonwealth
VT Vermont

Down to 27 schools, is this too broad for my stats or...?
 
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I really don't think you need that many schools. Why not consider them further based on other factors, like curriculum type (PBL, block, traditional lecture, systems-based), grades or P/F, safety of area, rural vs city, kid issues-like quality of local schools, cost of living in the area, weather, proximity to home, etc. Why not aim for 20, not counting super-reaches.
 

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I'm using this current list as a starting point for reviewing school's websites and discussing area pros/cons with my spouse, hopefully will be removing nearly 1/3 of those still listed. I'm not overly concerned with the prestige of the school, rather area/location/social mission factors are more of a draw for me

I'll revisit/bump if any school specific questions come up. Thanks for your input!
 
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