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Just curious! Looking for answers related to US schools(including Ross and St. Matthews.)
What are the hardest and easiest vet schools to get into?
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It depends on:
1) Where you have residency (different number of applicants for IS and OOS, varying number of seats for each at every school)
and
2) What your strengths are in your app (cGPA, Last 45 credits, etc.)
So....this isn't really a straight answer question....
1) Where you have residency (different number of applicants for IS and OOS, varying number of seats for each at every school)
and
2) What your strengths are in your app (cGPA, Last 45 credits, etc.)
So....this isn't really a straight answer question....
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Well I will be the one to say that Ross is probably one of the easier ones to get into if you're basing things off of GPA, but with that being said I think the tough admissions process through schools that are actually in the states is a blessing in disguise. Sure this program may be a little easier to get into, but there's people here that probably had no business being here. I can't speak for SGU or St. Matthews but just because the program is "easier" to get into here, it does not mean that the curriculum is any easier than a US vet school. I thought long and hard about the reasons I wasn't admitted to any US vet schools and came to the conclusion that my GPA was the biggest hindrance but was also a very poor reflection on my academic abilities and certainly was no indicator of how good of a vet I would be in the future. So when Ross took a chance and gave me an offer, I accepted. And if how my first year has gone is an accurate prediction of the rest of my vet school experience, I made the right decision.
But TT and Escalla are right, this is not a black and white question. It really depends on your personal stats and where you live.
But TT and Escalla are right, this is not a black and white question. It really depends on your personal stats and where you live.
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It's going to vary widely based on what your particular strengths are. Some schools, like AVC, weight your pre-req GPA far more heavily than your cumulative GPA. Some schools want really high GRE scores. Some schools will allow good veterinary experience to make up for lower grades. So whether it's easier or harder to get into those particular schools depends on the strengths and weaknesses in your application. You'll have to research the schools you're interested in (I recommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Veterinary-Me...ry+medical+school+admission+requirements+2014) and be honest with yourself about your own application to decide where you have the best chance of being accepted.
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Step 1: Calm down.
Step 2: You are only in your second semester of undergrad. See Step 1.
Step 3: A "B" is not a bad grade. Ever. It never has been and it never will be. B= above average... you are still better than most.
Step 4: Clam down
Step 5: Should you get a "bad" grade.... i.e a D or lower (maybe a C, but I would not go into panic mode for one C) then some schools will allow you to replace that grade by retaking the course and getting a better grade. Some schools will completely replace the grade, some will substitute that grade by averaging your D with your A.
Seriously, you need to calm down. You got a few B's it is not the end of the world. It happens. Focus on what you are good on, get A's in those areas and you will be fine. Also, experience is a completely different category of the application. Most schools start by looking at your academics and if they don't think those are good enough, then they don't look at the rest of the application. (Not always the case, but does happen). However, you are not even anywhere near that point, so stop freaking out over a few B's. Your possibility to get into vet school has not come to some catastrophic end.
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I saw your gpa on another thread. If you keep that or stay higher, you'll be fine. Also, check the school's websites or go to the AAVMC website. They list a lot of this info on the school specific pages. Also, the search function is your friend as well as the "what are my chances" and "successful applicants" threads. There is a ton of info on those places alone.
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Thank you! I was so paranoid about this semester but I'm starting to feel more confident.
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Don't be. I personally had a C, a number of Bs and two Ws and I got into a few schools. Many people on here have similar histories.
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I feel so much better now. I seriously come from a school/family that are making it seem like I need a 4.0 or I'll die.
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My mom is a dentist and came out of her undergrad with an almost 4.0 and could never understand why I couldn't pull higher than a C in organic chemistry (so I feel your pain). She said I should drop out of Colorado State and come home to OSU where I'd be less distracted and be able to pull a higher GPA if I ever wanted to get into vet school. I seriously considered it...but I have loved my time here and would have been miserable if I'd moved back home (remember, undergrad is supposed to be somewhat fun)
The moral of the story is...don't freak out yet 🙂 it sounds like you are a lot better off than I was when I was at your point in undergrad. Everyone has one damn class that they just cant get it together in - it doesn't mean you won't get into vet school and it definitely doesn't mean that you won't make a good veterinarian. During my sophomore year I began volunteering at the VTH here at Colorado State and at an emergency clinic...which not only helped me beef up my application - but helped me re-kindle my love for veterinary medicine and motivated me to work even harder in my classes 🙂
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I had a friend on FB who posted he was starting a job again working with animals. One of his friends comments on it with: "Hey, I am going to be graduating vet school in a few months." I was curious as to what vet school his friend was at so I went to his friends' FB... the guy is at a veterinary technician school, not in vet school. I didn't say anything, but I do wonder if the guy realizes he isn't a vet and is only a vet tech....
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I had a friend on FB who posted he was starting a job again working with animals. One of his friends comments on it with: "Hey, I am going to be graduating vet school in a few months." I was curious as to what vet school his friend was at so I went to his friends' FB... the guy is at a veterinary technician school, not in vet school. I didn't say anything, but I do wonder if the guy realizes he isn't a vet and is only a vet tech....
😵 He's going to have a very awkward first day on the job...
Lol "only"? I work with some wonderfully skilled RVTs who chose their careers not because vet school was too difficult but rather for the nursing care that they can provide as RVTs. I am continuously amazed at how people can see veterinarians as > RVTs.
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I don't think DVMD was saying that veterinarians are greater or better than RVTs at all. She was saying that this person believed he was going to be a veterinarian by only going to vet tech school. No matter how you want to look at it, veterinarian does not equal vet tech, nor does vet school equal vet tech school.
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I don't know of any vet tech school that wouldn't make that clear. I graduated from one and currently teach at another and by no means have either of them ever been compared to veterinary schools. In fact most even teach the difference between assistants, technicians, and doctors. Maybe it was just worded weird. I do have to say I really enjoyed my time as an RVT but knew I wanted to pursue it further than that. In fact becoming an RVT cemented my desire to become a vet. On that note I know tons of RVTs that are awesome and have never wanted to take the next step because as it was said they enjoyed the nursing care aspect more. 🙂
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I wouldnt take the "only" part so literally. DVMD was not saying DVMs are better then RVTs.. She was saying that this person said they were graduating from Vet school which implies you will have a DVM.. this person is not going to have that instead he/she will have RVT or LVT or whatever. The two titles are apples and oranges. One does not equal the other. Does that mean a DVM is "greater or better" ? No, not better, but they are not the same thing. The person talking about graduating from school should just say i'm graduating vet tech school because if you say vet school people will think you are a doctor when you are not. Acknowledging a difference in the two titles does not imply you think you are "better than someone else" but you should respect the title that people do have and not make statements implying you will have a title in which you dont/wont have.
Hi! If you don't mind me asking, what was your GPA? I am in my junior year at my undergraduate college and it's starting to get time to apply. My GPA in only a 3.2 and I'm very concerned I won't be a competitive applicant. Ross seems like somewhere I definitely want to consider, I just wonder if I have a shot.
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Hello all,
for the 2016 matriculation, (you may base your info off of the 2015 mate.) ...does anyone know the top 10 schools that have the highest OOS acceptance rates (plz include #s if possible)?
thanks so much!! just looking to increase my chances/odds of acceptance with sub-par grades & gps.
my history:
-26 yro female in BA vet tech program in ny & will graduate may 2016 (I have also taken higher level sci courses) but, because of working so much to pay bills have subpar - par grades on -my transcript.
-i have about 4,000 hrs of clin exp as an asst & unlic tech.
-1,000 hrs vol time
-have 3 amazing LORS from diplomats of vet med, haven written numerous books etc & are head surgeon at top hops in nyc
-in the process of getting profs to write LORS.
-will take gre in 2 weeks.
-did independent research electively
-have attended many vet related workshops, conducted necropsies etc
-worked with large (farm & equine) animals via school camp program plus vol work
-did 4 month zoo internship (also wanted to do an aquarium internship but 3 hr commute at the most reputable place) =(
-2 wk summer trip to do sea turtle conservation in costa rica & sea grass data collect
- i have will an addt'l 720 hrs in practice coming up via two school externships (360 hrs in small practice & 360 hrs in a specialty practice of my choice)
- i currently work at the #1 vet hosp in nyc as a vet surgical and peri-operative asst. plus have cross trained as a rehabilitation and acupuncture vet asst.
-i have had a great amount of exotic animal exposure through previous jobs
- plus other things i am forgetting at the moment
my school grade struggle stemmed from home life and travel & COST ( job = 1.75 hr commute each way via train and school = 2-2.5 hr commute each way viz train or driving = LOTS of traffic always & construction = big waste of studying time; sad). yes some ppl may say I'm crazy but if you understand how obnoxious nyc life/commuting can be then you know what i mean and how it is inevitable. i hope this shows my total dedication, perseverance and determination for this field to the schools i apply to :-/
i am more than happy/eager to hear ALL and ANY advice ppl may have please! plus the OOS stats response
thanks so much! =D
what do you guys think please be honest but not mean?
for the 2016 matriculation, (you may base your info off of the 2015 mate.) ...does anyone know the top 10 schools that have the highest OOS acceptance rates (plz include #s if possible)?
thanks so much!! just looking to increase my chances/odds of acceptance with sub-par grades & gps.
my history:
-26 yro female in BA vet tech program in ny & will graduate may 2016 (I have also taken higher level sci courses) but, because of working so much to pay bills have subpar - par grades on -my transcript.
-i have about 4,000 hrs of clin exp as an asst & unlic tech.
-1,000 hrs vol time
-have 3 amazing LORS from diplomats of vet med, haven written numerous books etc & are head surgeon at top hops in nyc
-in the process of getting profs to write LORS.
-will take gre in 2 weeks.
-did independent research electively
-have attended many vet related workshops, conducted necropsies etc
-worked with large (farm & equine) animals via school camp program plus vol work
-did 4 month zoo internship (also wanted to do an aquarium internship but 3 hr commute at the most reputable place) =(
-2 wk summer trip to do sea turtle conservation in costa rica & sea grass data collect
- i have will an addt'l 720 hrs in practice coming up via two school externships (360 hrs in small practice & 360 hrs in a specialty practice of my choice)
- i currently work at the #1 vet hosp in nyc as a vet surgical and peri-operative asst. plus have cross trained as a rehabilitation and acupuncture vet asst.
-i have had a great amount of exotic animal exposure through previous jobs
- plus other things i am forgetting at the moment
my school grade struggle stemmed from home life and travel & COST ( job = 1.75 hr commute each way via train and school = 2-2.5 hr commute each way viz train or driving = LOTS of traffic always & construction = big waste of studying time; sad). yes some ppl may say I'm crazy but if you understand how obnoxious nyc life/commuting can be then you know what i mean and how it is inevitable. i hope this shows my total dedication, perseverance and determination for this field to the schools i apply to :-/
i am more than happy/eager to hear ALL and ANY advice ppl may have please! plus the OOS stats response
thanks so much! =D
what do you guys think please be honest but not mean?
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if you don't mind me asking, what was your gps ?
i ask bc i am applying now and will prob rely on ross as my choice bc of my gpa
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Highest OOS would be your private schools, probably, because they don't look at OOS/IS. So you've got Ross, St. George's, Cornell (I think?), WesternU... I know UGA doesn't take a lot of OOS students -- about 3 the year I applied, I believe. I believe Virgina-Maryland historically takes a lot of OOS students. You can probably find these numbers through the AVMA.
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Statistically, your IS will be easier to get into than OOS. Though this always isn't the case. I've met more than a handful of people who was completely rejected by their instate but accepted by 1-3 OOS schools. It's all about your strengths on your application and matching those to schools who are looking for those particular strengths. Though that in itself can be a difficult task...
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I was actually rejected IS but accepted OOS.. While statistically is should be easier to get into your IS since there are so many more spots available relative to the number of applications, Ashgirl is completely right when she says it's about matching to schools that are looking for your particular strengths, since admissions formulas can vary a ton school to school. My IS was very heavily reliant on GPA (which was the weakest part of my app), so I had much better luck with schools that weighted the GRE and last 45 as more. I stupidly applied everywhere and wasted a lot of money, do your research and then just apply to the schools that match your strengths, and you'll save yourself a lot of money and have a better shot of an acceptance.
Also one nice thing about applying to OOS schools is that there tends to be a pretty high rate of declined acceptances. Usually a student that is accepted to an OOS is also a strong enough candidate to have been accepted IS and they almost always opt to stay IS. Or they've applied to several OOS schools and have been accepted to more than one. So I think it's a little deceptive how tough it can be to get in OOS if you think of it as only ~20 students matriculating out of ~500 applicants, when really ~90 were actually offered admission. And I'm not totally pulling those numbers out of thin air, I saw something like that three years ago on one schools admissions stats.
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The generally-accepted wisdom is that it's marginally easier to get accepted to the island schools, especially for-profit schools like Ross. But as others have noted, that doesn't mean the curriculum is any easier. The island schools tend to have a much higher dropout rate than the state schools because they're accepting students that probably aren't cut out for the profession. So don't get fooled into thinking easier acceptance = easier degree.
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When I hear stuff like this, I think to myself: that just sounds like a really dangerous dynamic. Accept a bunch of students that aren't cut out for the rigorous coursework, and place them all together as a class where there's a likely chance that lifestyle and attitude rub off between students. Not to say there aren't focused or extremely driven people out there, because that's definitely not true, but there's also no denying the power of group mentality and how it can either help you or hurt you.
I guess if it's for profit, it doesn't really matter to the school if students fail out, because they can just grab another and make da monaaay?
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Pretty much, yeah.