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I am wondering if someone can help explain to me why we (SDN forum) are constantly encouraging people to go into Master level programs? It seems almost like a double-edged sword. If more and more people are going into Master level programs and becoming a practicing therapist, then it makes more and more sense for psychologists (who are practicing) to take a pay cut. Why pay a psychologist $150/hr when you can pay a Master's level therapist $60/hr to "do the exact same thing" (as many have said on this forum).
I remember for instance reading outrage on this fourm about a job description (this esp. goes for Counseling Center positions) where it lists eligible applicants include 'Counseling or Clinical PhD, PsyD, or MSW' and the salary is roughly $45k.
If we continute to argue that a Master's level therapist is the same as a Professional practicing psychologist, we are digging a deeper hole in de-valuing professional doctoral education.
I understand the other sides most notably related to: These students who do not get into a funded PhD/PsyD program (1) saturate the market going into a an unfunded, "one of those" PsyD programs, and consequently the (2) APPIC Match imbalance.
I also understand that a doctoral psychology program is not ONLY psychotherapy and there is an (3) importance on critical analysis and research (even for PsyDs). However, where are most professional psychologists these days employed? (Last I heard the VA was #1 employer for psychologists- so if the govt wants to cut back, why not cut back psychologists and hire master-level therapists if we continue this type of discourse).
I remember for instance reading outrage on this fourm about a job description (this esp. goes for Counseling Center positions) where it lists eligible applicants include 'Counseling or Clinical PhD, PsyD, or MSW' and the salary is roughly $45k.
If we continute to argue that a Master's level therapist is the same as a Professional practicing psychologist, we are digging a deeper hole in de-valuing professional doctoral education.
I understand the other sides most notably related to: These students who do not get into a funded PhD/PsyD program (1) saturate the market going into a an unfunded, "one of those" PsyD programs, and consequently the (2) APPIC Match imbalance.
I also understand that a doctoral psychology program is not ONLY psychotherapy and there is an (3) importance on critical analysis and research (even for PsyDs). However, where are most professional psychologists these days employed? (Last I heard the VA was #1 employer for psychologists- so if the govt wants to cut back, why not cut back psychologists and hire master-level therapists if we continue this type of discourse).