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What Constitutes Clinical Research

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by metalgearHMN, May 27, 2008.

  1. metalgearHMN

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    What if you're just talking to the people...and not...touching them?
     
  2. Nanon

    Nanon An urban myth.
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    First... :laugh:

    OK. Clinical research is any research that involves humans. This can include something as far removed from... touching them... as chart reviews to performing medical procedures. Most of my experience in clinical research has been just talking to them.

    Thanks for the chuckle. :laugh:
     
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    First rule of clinical research: Do not talk about clinical research.
     
  4. Nanon

    Nanon An urban myth.
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    :banana:
     
  5. metalgearHMN

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    No problem:)

    Second rule of clinical research: If someone says stop, goes limp, taps out, the clinical research is over.
     
  6. LizzyM

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    Just came across this (from the NIH) in looking for something else...

    **The term "clinical research" means patient oriented clinical research conducted with human subjects, or research on the causes and consequences of disease in human populations involving material of human origin (such as tissue specimens and cognitive phenomena) for which an investigator or colleague directly interacts with human subjects in an outpatient or inpatient setting to clarify a problem in human physiology, pathophysiology or disease, or epidemiologic or behavioral studies, outcomes research or health services research, or developing new technologies, therapeutic interventions, or clinical trials.
     
  7. metalgearHMN

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    Thanks LizzyM, big help as always

    BTW what's with the timing on that post? I thought old people went to sleep at 5 PM :p

    JK:love:
     
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    I don't think LizzyM is as old as the woman in that picture. Besides that 1:47ish am is like 5:47 am on the east coast. So she was either up very late (partying like the rest of us :)) or she gets up very, very early in the morning.
     
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    So would some med schools look more favorably upon experience with clinical/medically-related research rather than, say, a molecular bio/genetics lab? i'm trying to decide between getting involved in a lab that's not very hands-on (they said that for the most part, i'd probably be looking up info on proteins...), but seems more personal and medically-oriented (trans-differentiation of melanoma cells), or working in a molecular bio lab that's very hands-on (growing fruit flies, phenotyping them, etc.), but not really medically-related at all..
     
  10. Nanon

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    LizzyM could probably answer this question much better than I, but you should think about what it is that you want to get out of this rather than what some med schools want and what some med schools don't want. Generally, the more interested you are in something, the better you do. And the better you do, the more likely you'll reap the rewards that med schools really do like to see - excellent LORs, and if you're there long enough, a publication, not to mention something to talk about with some authority during an interview. This sounds cheesy, but it's true: Follow your own path.
     
  11. LizzyM

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    The point of doing any research at all is to demonstrate an interest in scholarship. It doesn't matter if the research is basic science, applied science, social science or humanities. The point is to learn something about the scientific method.

    Some schools are very interested in preparing the next generation of physician scientists, both the MD/PhD kind and MDs who do research in addition to patient care and the teaching of the next generation (the three legged stool of academic medicine). This doesn't mean that they want applicants who did medical research as undergrads but people who might have been bitten by the bug as undergrads and are inclined to continue with research throughout their careers. Some will argue that those who did not do research as undergrads are unlikely to pick it up as med students, others will counter with the argument that some undergrads did not have the opportunity to do research and that there is still hope that they will pursue academic careers (if that is a high priority at the school).


    Nanon has good advice about going where you think you'll be a good fit. Many labs on med school campuses use flies, worms, and other animal models so some skills you might learn in the latter lab are not irrelevant to medical school projects.
     
  12. jlchen1031

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    Mm.. you both make great points =) All right, flies it is! haha, thanks a lot for your input!
     
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    u play mgs4 yet bro
     

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