what do you guys think of nymc?. . .good school even though not ranked?

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  1. ghm

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    i was just going through usnew's rankings and did not see nymc on any of lists. . .what do you guys think of the schoooL? is it respected?. . .what is considered?. .a 2nd tier/3rd tier school (i know i'm kinda uninformed, what what does 1st tier, 2nd tier, etc. .mean?. .does 1st tier=top 20?)
     
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    All I've heard is that practically half of the class is made up of UC graduates. I know diversity is not always a good measure of a school, but that has to make you wonder.
     
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    There's a lot of people in california, and not very many med schools. A lot of the private schools (esp lower ranked ones) have a bunch of CA peeps who weren't able to get one of the few UC spots. A lot of CA residents also at Albany, MCP, Finch... private schools that don't select towards a particular state.
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by johnM:
    <strong>There's a lot of people in california, and not very many med schools. A lot of the private schools (esp lower ranked ones) have a bunch of CA peeps who weren't able to get one of the few UC spots. A lot of CA residents also at Albany, MCP, Finch... private schools that don't select towards a particular state.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">compared to some states, they have a lot of med schools. the problem is that most of the medical schools are some of the best in the country. in addition the state itself has a high population of medical school applicants. this combination makes it very competitive to get into a medical school in california. the solution is to apply out of state. I've met several Cali applicatants and they all seem to have applied to many medical schools (20+), while this number of schools may not be true it is food for thought.

    Regarding the original question, do you have an acceptance at NYMC?
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by oldman:
    <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by johnM:
    <strong>There's a lot of people in california, and not very many med schools. A lot of the private schools (esp lower ranked ones) have a bunch of CA peeps who weren't able to get one of the few UC spots. A lot of CA residents also at Albany, MCP, Finch... private schools that don't select towards a particular state.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">compared to some states, they have a lot of med schools. the problem is that most of the medical schools are some of the best in the country. in addition the state itself has a high population of medical school applicants. this combination makes it very competitive to get into a medical school in california. the solution is to apply out of state. I've met several Cali applicatants and they all seem to have applied to many medical schools (20+), while this number of schools may not be true it is food for thought.

    Regarding the original question, do you have an acceptance at NYMC?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oldman, I think the average California resident applies to 20-30 schools. I used to think that everybody did, but apparently, it's just us from the Sunshine State. But can you blame us?
     
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    California is the GOLDEN STATE. Florida is the SUNSHINE STATE.

    In regards to the topic of this forum, I regard NYMC (IN MY OPINION) as an average medical school. It has some good points (i.e., proximity to NYC, good board exam scores, and clinical opportunites) and some bad points (i.e., not many research opportunities, not much research funding, and a very small campus (despite a large class)). But, honestly, who really cares if you're just planning to be a practicing physician! On the other hand, if you have high hopes for academic medicine and research, then good luck. The road will be tough(er).

    I am trying to be as objective as possible. I applied to this school two years in a row and both times I was rejected post-interview. Do not feel sorry for me or provide any sympathy. I have been accepted to a few medical schools ranked (by US NEWS) in the top twenty in terms of research. I guess this goes to show you, yet again, how random the medical school application process can be. I hope all of this information is helpful. Please realize this is just my opinion so take it "with a grain of salt."
     
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    thanks for the response. no, i don't have an acceptance from nymc. i interviewed. .but have not heard anything since then. .

    i was just looking up schools on the us-news ranking. . .and did not see nymc. .

    so. . .i wanted to see what you guys think? i don't know if a school is "good" or not since i don't know too many ppl in med school already. . .so feedback from you guys really helps. thanks
     
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    Unless you are going for research, rankings really don't mean that much. You will notice that only the top 50 are ranked, and only in 2 categories - research and primary care. Neither of those apply to what I want to do. With maybe one or two exceptions (and really none), there are no bad medical schools in the United States if you want to be a practicing physician. "Tiers" apply more to law schools and matter significantly more. There is something to be said for the rankings because they are an indicator of funding, research opportunity, and a few other things, but its not like choosing Harvard over Northeast Lobster State Community Wesleyen Junior College for undergrad.
     
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    crazygop,

    thanks for your reply. . .it's weird. .even after a year long application process, i'm still pretty much clueless about the application process as well as the specifics of each med school.
     
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    I thought the campus and setting was a absolutely delightful, and the facilities and dorms were fanstastic. Very "college"; I like that. The people seemed smart and worldly, and the pass rate of step 1 is impressive. What scares me about the college is the prospect of limiting your residency options. All arrogance aside, it seems unlikely that a NYMC grad could sucessfully gain 1 of 8 orthopedic residency spots at a competitive insitution with 800 others applying... unless he or she was extraordinarily superhuman. Primary care is a different story, but for those interested in surgery and subspecialties, perhaps, beware.
     
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    Geez, let's drop this freakin rankings crap can we?

    Rankings mean jack in the grand scheme of things unless you are heart set on going to Hahvudh and doing genetics testing or something like that.

    Wannabe a good doctor and practice surgery or OB-GYN or ENT? Go anywhere (stateside) that grants you a degree where they call you "doctor".

    It is all about your USMLE scores in the end run. Screw your USMLE...goodbye surgery.

    Score 221...you have a shot.

    I have a friend who is attending Howard and scored in the 90th+ percentile and is Gen. Surg now at UVa starting in July. It doesn't matter where you go...just go. Like the school. Go damn it. If not give the seat to someone who will.

    (Rant off.) <img border="0" alt="[Pissy]" title="" src="graemlins/pissy.gif" />
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by california:
    <strong>California is the GOLDEN STATE. Florida is the SUNSHINE STATE. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are so correct, what the hell was I thinking?!
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WaitingImpatiently:
    <strong>Oldman, I think the average California resident applies to 20-30 schools. I used to think that everybody did, but apparently, it's just us from the Sunshine State. But can you blame us?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Funny thing is that I applied to 26 schools, but that was more about my lack of confidence. Despite applying to 26 schools I got rejected by about 16 without any interviews. It's tough out there.
     
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    Rankings should NOT be ignored. They also should not be the absolute deciding factor in one where one goes. There is no such thing as a bad medical school, but then as medical schools go, NYMC isn't all that competitive. It is actually one of the least competitive med schools out there.
     
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    I personally thought NYMC was a great school. The board scores were excellent, the surroundings were pleasant, and the students seemed happy. It is not far at all from Manhattan. I live in the city and I can make it up to NYMC in 20 min by car. I know two physicians that graduated from NYMC; one is a prominent plastic surgeon and the other is head of the ICU at Montefiore. You will get a great education there, Both doctors speak highly of the school. The number one thing to consider is what do you think of the school. It is your money and the next four years of your life.
     
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    If you look at the match lists for the past couple of years(on the NYMC website) you will see that their students had no trouble securing excellent residency appointments all over the country.Yes even Orthopedic Surgey at UCLA and the Mayo Clinic! I would guess that they were selected over many others to get these.While the school is not a prestige name,there are plenty of its graduates high up in academic medicine.As stated the rankings are strongly based on research funding to the institution.Most of the med schools in the US are not ranked(75/125) and still send their grads into every medical specialty.
     
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    Okay, so NYMC has great board scores and placement, etc...what schools, exactly, don't? Sometimes the lovefest that comes up any time any school is mentioned really gets to me. Quite simply, all schools are NOT equal and some people do have to actually make decisions among them, if not at the where to attend stage, then at the where to apply. They need actual criticism regarding schools, along with the support that seems to flow so easily.
     
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    dear none,

    wow. i really respect your honest. thank you so much. and thanks everyone else too!!!!
     
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    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by none:
    <strong>Okay, so NYMC has great board scores and placement, etc...what schools, exactly, don't? Sometimes the lovefest that comes up any time any school is mentioned really gets to me. Quite simply, all schools are NOT equal and some people do have to actually make decisions among them, if not at the where to attend stage, then at the where to apply. They need actual criticism regarding schools, along with the support that seems to flow so easily.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I totally agree, but I think that the point is that there's no shame in going to NYMC. While it's not going to give you the same opportunities that a big research-oriented university med school will, you will still get a solid education and be qualified to go in to whatever specialty you want, so long as your grades/boards are competitive.
     
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    i decided not to interview when given the offer. i would not go over a spot at a cheaper state school.
     

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