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Do you think the three opening DO schools will have lower entry stats than the other DO schools?
Do you think the three opening DO schools will have lower entry stats than the other DO schools?
Lolz I disagree. They most likely will, esp ones with instate prefs.
It might be a misconception that new schools will have lower stats. I think it really depends on the school's mission statement as well. When UCF (MD) opened, they wanted to make sure they had a good applicant pool so they had minimum gpa requirements and even offered the inaugural class 100% tuition scholarship. FIU (MD) on the other hand did not have any cut offs. However, after the 1st year, they implemented minimum requirements. Also, someone correct me if I am wrong but when I visited one of the new DO school's admission site, there might have been a comment about minimum requirements.Do you think the three opening DO schools will have lower entry stats than the other DO schools?
I think they will have lower stats only because they will have a lot of lower-stat applicants. People with average GPA/MCAT scores probably won't apply because they know they have a chance to matriculate into a school with established credentials.
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Im almost certain theyll have low end stats their first year. For one, Campell and Alabama give state/regional preference, not 100% sure about marian . For two, most if its applicants will be prob be the low to middle end of the applicant pool. The idea that they're new schools turns a lot of applicants off im sure that would prefer to go to places like DMU.
id estimate that theyll be a little lower but nothing crazy. Im guessing around a 25-26 mcat average maybe 3.3 cum and science gpas?
It might be a misconception that new schools will have lower stats. I think it really depends on the school's mission statement as well. When UCF (MD) opened, they wanted to make sure they had a good applicant pool so they had minimum gpa requirements and even offered the inaugural class 100% tuition scholarship. FIU (MD) on the other hand did not have any cut offs. However, after the 1st year, they implemented minimum requirements. Also, someone correct me if I am wrong but when I visited one of the new DO school's admission site, there might have been a comment about minimum requirements.
I don't think any of the new schools are offering a full ride for first year students. The minimum GPA for marian was low.
Lastly, why would highly qualified applicants apply to a new school when there are much better options? Surely only students who have no other options would take such an opportunity.
I agree. 99% of people with MD stats are going to apply MD, and probably 80%+ of DO applicants will go to an OOS school rather than a brand new state school for obvious reasons. Sure you save money on your tuition, but what happens if the new school fails after 2-3 years and/or your degree is not recognized after 4 years. All that money you saved just became an extra 1-4 years of tuition on a worthless degree.
Personally I'd rather pay $50k per year for a DO I know will be honored than $25k per year for a DO that could possibly not be recognized. Not everyone is willing to pay more for a sure thing though.
I think so far it has been 0%.So here's my question, just how often does that happen? I mean how often does a new DO school end up not being accredited? Just curious...
So here's my question, just how often does that happen? I mean how often does a new DO school end up not being accredited? Just curious...
I've never heard of it happening, but the risk is there and it is not a risk I'm willing to take. Just personal opinion though.
Don't they tend to get accredited by the time the first class graduates? So that means a total of 4 potential graduating classes are taking the risk
^^thisTo be honest, I know nothing about the process. I do know that I would like to attend a school that has a lot of alumni in the field as to help make connections for the future though!
So here's my question, just how often does that happen? I mean how often does a new DO school end up not being accredited? Just curious...
First class would be disasterous. Kinks not worked out, rotation sites not fleshed out, no prior years notes, no alumni network etc etc. I would never be the first class because no one cares that you were the first class of such and such school. They care how good of a physician you are and when the deck is stacked against you, its adding more difficulty to an already difficult education. Ya people do it, but its not ideal. Last resort, i'd take a spot before going carrib.
Case in point: that pwnu student who had a nurse as his surgery preceptor
While I agree with you, are there any positives to going to a new school?
Do you think the deans would really go the extra mile to get an impressive match rates or provide extra board prep because they are new?
Being in Indianapolis....Marian would be great, but very risky
While I agree with you, are there any positives to going to a new school?
Do you think the deans would really go the extra mile to get an impressive match rates or provide extra board prep because they are new?
Being in Indianapolis....Marian would be great, but very risky
Im almost certain theyll have low end stats their first year. For one, Campell and Alabama give state/regional preference, not 100% sure about marian . For two, most if its applicants will be prob be the low to middle end of the applicant pool. The idea that they're new schools turns a lot of applicants off im sure that would prefer to go to places like DMU.
id estimate that theyll be a little lower but nothing crazy. Im guessing around a 25-26 mcat average maybe 3.3 cum and science gpas?
So here's my question, just how often does that happen? I mean how often does a new DO school end up not being accredited? Just curious...
IS preference doesn't always lead to low stats i.e. UMDNJ has the highest DO stats and is a public school.
Do you have data to support this? It would help many of us in our application process.
Do you have data to support this? It would help many of us in our application process.
Nothing official, but a forum member did try and aggregate the stats from various sources here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=12425402&postcount=28