what is a good specialty choice..with criteria??

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  1. HEADintheCLOUDS

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    OK guys, since certain situations have transpired, I have begun contemplating why I was aiming toward certain specialty and my focus has changed. What would a good specialty be fitting these criteria (i know all wont be prefect but as close as possible)....................................................1) alot of money 2) short hours 3) any type of work (not important what i do) (i would be happy having a job with the above 2 requirements.Thanks guys
     
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    Change careers?
     
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    I could name some, but they wouldn't be in medicine.
     
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    I can totally relate to this, except I also want to work from the oval office, have a plethora of scantily clad women to fan me with palm branches, and a unicorn to ride to work on. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Emergency Medicine docs make 6 figures and work ~36 hours/wk. Granted two-thirds of your shifts may be evenings, overnights and weekends until you work your way up the ladder and earn more "regular" shifts. Plus EM is not very competitive (board scores are around the average for 1st time takers and not even all the spots filled last year).

    Radiology makes more money per hour (although thats not a realistic way of comparing things since doctors don't usually get paid by the hour), but is much harder to get into and they work more hours than EM docs
     
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    Your username is spot on.

    Just RAWK the MCAT.
     
  8. With the way MS-IVs are trending towards certain specialties, the "lifestyle" fields are becoming more and more competitive.
     
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    So all you want is something that's not competitive, pays great, and is 9-5? Let me know when you find it, because almost without exception the specialties with the highest pay/hours ratios are the most competitive. By your history you'd be fooling yourself contemplating something like dermatology or ophthalmology. Things like PM&R have great hours but aren't so hot in terms of pay, while just about any doctor can make bank if they work 100 hours a week.
     
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    Use your loan money to startup, become a day-trader, and work from home. You can save yourself the further expense of medical school. Drawback: there are days you lose a lot of money, too, even if you know a lot about stocks.
     
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    Everyone makes 6 figures.
     
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    I know. I should have added the word "still" before "make six figures." What I'm getting at is that they have a fairly high pay for how many [or few] hours they work.
     
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    i heard that dentists make much more than doctors,, they see more patients, more money/hour...
    they also choose when to work when they establish their own clinics...

    though low stress and money are v. imp for happy life.. i get "high" going through Robbins!
     
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    Here's something novel!! :D

    Find a speciality that you enjoy and can see yourself doing for years to come.

    The money, hours, etc. will follow...

    Experience brings the money and more control over your hours in most cases.
     
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    thats just it, I dont know what specialty to do that I would enjoy. Working alot of hours is fine but I want alot of money. I also need something that is slow paced as I tend to think things through 2-3 times before I actually do it to find all the possible problems that may arise. (hence I dont think ER would be good as the patients would probably die by the time I decided what to do)
     
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    Why don't you see what you like 3rd/4th year.
     
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    Dude, you can't really be in med school yet. If you actually are, just spend some time in the hospital and your specialty will choose you, most likely.:thumbup:

    I recommend you look into dental school - awesome pay and hours. Seriously, if dentistry was a medical specialty it probably would be one of the hardest, if not THE hardest, to match into.
     
  19. Then perhaps the surgical fields won't really be to your liking.
     
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    Pathology might be your cup of tea, though the money issue will probably be an issue for you.
     
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    That woudl be ideal, but if you want to get into a competitive field I need to start doing research now befoer 2nd year. This sucks!
     
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    As people have previously mentioned, if you failed a class not having research is going to be the least of your worries when it comes to getting a competitive residency.
     
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    Actuall having research makes your application look better, regardless of failing or not so it will help. ....................Please only respond if you are smart and can reason through things.
     
  24. Unfortunately I don't think research is going to make up for failing a class.

    For the competitive fields, you have to have a good Step 1 score, solid clinical grades, strong letters of recommendation and a fairly unblemished academic track record (i.e. no failures and no repeated years). Research and other extracurriculars may even be needed to be considered competitive at some of the bigger programs.
     
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    How much is "a lot of money"?

    If you want to work slowly, have short hours, and have failed a class, consider PM&R. Some areas of Psych may also meet your needs, eg. child psych.
     
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    I'm pretty sure surebreC passed all of his classes. He can reason through that.
     
  27. HEADintheCLOUDS

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    So then what specialties can I go into,Which was, the initial question??
     
  28. More importantly, what are you interested in?

    It doesn't matter if the field pays a decent amount and has decent hours if you're hating what you do.
     
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    Definitely put this in your personal statement when applying for residency spots. Program directors will no doubt embrace your motivation and reasoning enthusiastically ---> many interviews!!!! :thumbup:
     
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    Hmm, my M1/M2 grades and board scores would certainly go against your assertion that I can't "reason through things".
     
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    Dentistry FTW. :D :thumbup:

    Oh, wait. My bad.
     
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    if you want something slow paced, i suggest following in House's footsteps. It seems like he gets to focus on one case for days and has limitless resources at his disposal.
     
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    Great advice, I hope the TS really follows this suggestion.

    Oh, and HEADintheCLOUNDS, don't forget the pills! :idea:
     
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    There really aren't any medical fields that meet your requirements. The best paid specialties tend to really work you, and often have the longest residency paths. EM as mentioned is great pay for the least hours, but it doesn't meet your "slow paced" requirement, and the hours won't be during daylight until you get pretty senior. Seems pretty clear to me that the job you are describing is to take what's left of your tuition money and open a Starbucks in a high foot traffic area which lacks one. Then, as it makes money, you set up another one. And so on. With the right people working under you, you can come and go as you please, and it's quite slow paced (as folks on line can tell you). Or really any lucrative low tech retail business. This is how the average American who doesn't want to work that hard, has seed capital and wants to turn it into a decent amount of loot does it.

    But your "criteria" simply take you out of wanting to be in a profession. I would lose all of them. You need to make your criteria (1) something that you enjoy, or get some satisfaction out of, (2) that pays the bills, and (3) that you can get into given your academic struggles. Once these are your criteria, you will find more options. But with the criteria above I suspect you will have to change fields to succeed.
     
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    You're in the wrong country. This is United States, not Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Seriously, OP - you should have looked into dentistry and/or podiatry. Maybe you could still apply.
    Those come closer to meeting your criteria than what you're doing now.
     
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    lol... true.
     
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    Why do you guys waste your time responding to this guy?
     
  39. We're mods. We're trained to be nice and helpful.

    :)
     
  40. Law2Doc

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    Well, even where the OP doesn't merit a response sometimes there is someone else reading who can benefit from a useful response. We write to the masses.
     
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    My goodness you're rude. If you're asking everyone for advice, try not being an @ss and you might get some help.
     
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    Yeah but its too late to change fields now. I kind of got stuck going to medical school for the wrong reasons. And now I realized this and its too late. I just want to have a good life.And to (the word that rhymes with c-bag) ^ if you do not have something helpful to say then dont come here and post. No one likes you or wants to hear you.
     
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    are you the pot or the kettle in this scenario?

    edit to say i actually love you, headintheclouds, because every day that i wonder how on earth i'll match into a competitive specialty when my classmates are so friggin' smart, i just log in to sdn. fear gone...
     
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    I prefer to be water jug........Glad I could help. I always log on here to put me at ease, when I think that all these people are super smart and could take my residency spot away. But then I remember that I plan on going to the top ranked ones....then all my fears just slip away.
     
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    Have you thought about working outside of clinical medicine? Public policy or lobbying maybe?
     
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    Well kind of. I thought about lobbying after I get my MD. I heard that drug companies pay good money to back them up by lobbying. (not really sure how it works but sounds intersting)
     
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    Is this some kind of insult/jab? Because I read it four times and i'm still not sure what you're saying. I must be dumb. Better drop out of school now and give my spot to someone more worthy. :(
     
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    It was a kind hearted mini-jab! :) smart people seem to miss so obvious stuff.......its all that micro/path taking up too much room!
     
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    Your value to the pharmaceutical lobby industry tends to go up if you finish your residency as well as get licensed. You lack the kind of credibility you'd want to be able to leverage as a lobbyist if you've never practiced.
     
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    2 shay!! Does it matter what/where residency you go to?
     
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    I'm assuming any residency suffices?

    Or do they prefer to have Dr. HeadinClouds, board certified cardiologist says that the government should release a report expousing the benefits of Lipitor?
     
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    While a board certified subspecialist would be ideal for them, they won't usually get those, so I suspect an internist, pediatrician, or other primary care specialist would suffice. But once through residency most people stay the course because it's what they've trained for, and thus is easier.
     
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