What % of your class want to do pedo?

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What % of students in your class want to do pedo? My class is around 7 to 10 percent depending on the day.
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Our class had about 10% for pedo if i remember correctly
 
capisce? said:
Our class had about 10% for pedo if i remember correctly
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Yeah, for some reason it is huge at UNC. This year, I think it is closer to 15% or so. More than 10 people, I think, out of 82.
 
4-5 out of 80 in my class. And maybe some "sleepers" who I don't know about.
 
5/40 matched in pedo in my class
 
10 out of our class of 80 applied. 6 matched.
 
This is an old thread but I was hoping to bring it back to life.

I think we have about 5/80 applying to pedo this coming year. All pretty solid applicants.
 
We had about 15 or 16 out of 125 apply, 10 got in
 
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May I ask what is so exceptional about pedo compared to other dental specialties?
 
Locutus of Borg said:
May I ask what is so exceptional about pedo compared to other dental specialties?
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That's kind of like asking why people think Romulans are superior to Klingons.
I don't think anyone said Pedo was exceptional to the other specialties. Why is it a contest? Just decide what you're interested in after you get into dental school, and do it. And then it will become exceptional to you.
 
Pedo Unicorn said:
That's kind of like asking why people think Romulans are superior to Klingons.
I don't think anyone said Pedo was exceptional to the other specialties. Why is it a contest? Just decide what you're interested in after you get into dental school, and do it. And then it will become exceptional to you.
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Klingons are clearly superior to Romulans.:smuggrin:
 
Locutus of Borg said:
May I ask what is so exceptional about pedo compared to other dental specialties?
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- No endo
- No RPD
- No bad breath
- No old crazy men (except parents)
- No old/ immature crazy women (except parents)
- No lack of patents
- Not a bad income
- and last but not least - bad pedo patient is better than a good adult one :D
 
atlanta478 said:
- No endo
- No RPD
- No bad breath
- No old crazy men (except parents)
- No old/ immature crazy women (except parents)
- No lack of patents
- Not a bad income
- and last but not least - bad pedo patient is better than a good adult one :D
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Thanks for your input. If I may make further inquiries:
What is RPD?
Why would one not want to do endo?
Are specialists often experiencing a shortage of patients?
Could elaborate on your last point?
 
Locutus of Borg said:
Thanks for your input. If I may make further inquiries:
What is RPD?
Why would one not want to do endo?
Are specialists often experiencing a shortage of patients?
Could elaborate on your last point?
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1. RPD=Removable Partial Dentures
2. Endo sucks
3. Overall, not really, depends on where they're practicing.
4. Not sure I entirely agree with last point.
 
This is interesting. A possible thought is there is a very high correlation between pay and the residencies students desire. A decade ago the desire to work on the little rug rats was much less, today there are significantly more people applying. Pedo is extremely lucrative at this point in time, correlation?

I also found it interesting that guys or gals you started with as a D-1 wanted to do endo. Even at graduation I think it is difficult to say I want to do this for the rest of my working life after having completed 15 root canals. Correlation to pay?
 
I think there are also a lot of misconceptions out there regarding pedo, and I feel that a lot of people apply and go into the specialty without knowning much about it. For instance, many people for some reason think that becoming a pediatric dentist automatically equates to a 300K/yr income.....no sorry, thats an orthodontist

however, what people dont realize is that you have to work your arse off and see TONS AND TONS of kids per day to earn that income and in reality many pediatric dentists earn much less.

However, if you truly do it because you love it and not for the money, then it will never be considered "work" after all :D
 
DrBadVibes3 said:
For instance, many people for some reason think that becoming a pediatric dentist automatically equates to a 300K/yr income.....no sorry, thats an orthodontist
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Pediatric dentists can easily earn 300k/year. Pedo is about volume, but that shouldn't come as a shock to anybody. I believe that nearly any pediatric dentist that wants to bring home 300k/year can do so. Many may not want to do so, but that doesn't mean they don't have the earning potential.

The ortho residents at my school aren't having much like finding jobs. Small sample size, but I think that is somewhat reflective of the current state of ortho and pedo accross the country right now.
 
Kabek said:
This is interesting. A possible thought is there is a very high correlation between pay and the residencies students desire. A decade ago the desire to work on the little rug rats was much less, today there are significantly more people applying. Pedo is extremely lucrative at this point in time, correlation?

I also found it interesting that guys or gals you started with as a D-1 wanted to do endo. Even at graduation I think it is difficult to say I want to do this for the rest of my working life after having completed 15 root canals. Correlation to pay?
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It makes sense. The #1 factor for choosing a specialty, among those who have no experience doing the actual procedures (such as a D1), is probably lifestyle and income.
 
ItsGavinC said:
Pediatric dentists can easily earn 300k/year. Pedo is about volume, but that shouldn't come as a shock to anybody. I believe that nearly any pediatric dentist that wants to bring home 300k/year can do so. Many may not want to do so, but that doesn't mean they don't have the earning potential.

The ortho residents at my school aren't having much like finding jobs. Small sample size, but I think that is somewhat reflective of the current state of ortho and pedo accross the country right now.
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as usual gavin, you reply by berating my response and basically reword what I say, but in your cocky, douche way. All I was saying was that most people who blindly apply to pedo because to them speciazling = an automatic high salary.....but in pedo thats not the case because you need volume and dont just walk into that salary....

people read these threads talking about salaries and they see how the average pediatric dentist makes 300k+/year and automatically think, "oh well i guess ill do pedo and make 300k/year.....

Ive talked with residents who actually believed that they thought they would get paid more from Medicaid for doing a Class 2 as compared to a general dentist doing the exact same procedure......thats how they thought pediatric dentists made more money.....when these residents found out that it was volume, you could see by their body language that they were regretting their decision, because even in residency, they complain on how draining seeing so many kids a day could be on their own bodies............

obviously didnt do their research before applying and Im sure this is more common than you may believe.....
 
DrBadVibes3 said:
as usual gavin, you reply by berating my response and basically reword what I say, but in your cocky, douche way. All I was saying was that most people who blindly apply to pedo because to them speciazling = an automatic high salary.....but in pedo thats not the case because you need volume and dont just walk into that salary....

people read these threads talking about salaries and they see how the average pediatric dentist makes 300k+/year and automatically think, "oh well i guess ill do pedo and make 300k/year.....

Ive talked with residents who actually believed that they thought they would get paid more from Medicaid for doing a Class 2 as compared to a general dentist doing the exact same procedure......thats how they thought pediatric dentists made more money.....when these residents found out that it was volume, you could see by their body language that they were regretting their decision, because even in residency, they complain on how draining seeing so many kids a day could be on their own bodies............

obviously didnt do their research before applying and Im sure this is more common than you may believe.....
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my apologies for taking a tangent from this discussion.

can you classify specialities including general dentistry based on these lines:


Demands pt volume for a high income

Demands pt quality ( NON VOLUME ) for a high income

Demands combination of volume and quality ( patient and /or complex procedures)


thanks
 
DrBadVibes3 said:
as usual gavin, you reply by berating my response and basically reword what I say, but in your cocky, douche way. All I was saying was that most people who blindly apply to pedo because to them speciazling = an automatic high salary.....but in pedo thats not the case because you need volume and dont just walk into that salary....
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Your personal attack really bolsters your argument. I'm NOT rewording what you said. I'm saying that I believe what you posted to be wrong. New pediatric dentists are making more than new orthodontists, in my research. And while they aren't walking into 300k a year jobs, many of them sure are starting at close to that. As I said before, the ortho around here are finding it difficult to even find jobs period.
 
I am not sure the exact number of students but there are a lot. I know of at leat 10 in a class of 144 and I am sure that there are at least 4 or 5 more hiding out. I know that it is not realistic but I hope we all get in.
 
Well I sure wish people would stop applying to pedo already, at least this year, so that I'd have a chance.
 
ItsGavinC said:
Pediatric dentists can easily earn 300k/year. Pedo is about volume, but that shouldn't come as a shock to anybody. I believe that nearly any pediatric dentist that wants to bring home 300k/year can do so. Many may not want to do so, but that doesn't mean they don't have the earning potential.

The ortho residents at my school aren't having much like finding jobs. Small sample size, but I think that is somewhat reflective of the current state of ortho and pedo accross the country right now.
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I don't mean to nip on you but I'm curious. 300k/yr sounds high for any dentist or dental specialist. Are you referring to the POTENTIAL salary, a FIXED salary of 300k/yr, or a production-based income with an yearly guarantee of 300k ?

In my book, GPs are somewhere around 50k - $144k/yr. As for specialists, I'm seeing them earn from $100k - $200k / yr. These are my figures for new grads. I wouldn't trust surveys from dental associations. I think the BLS statistics are more accurate because it gathers involuntary info from everyone.

As for 300k/yr potentials, I'd have to say orthodontists. Even with crappy insurance, orthos are reimbured at least $1k / patient. Being non-invasive, orthos have the better ability to see even more patients than any other dentist.
 
Do you need to be a United States citizen or Perm Resident generally to be eligible for pedo/residency?
 
mrlantern said:
I don't mean to nip on you but I'm curious. 300k/yr sounds high for any dentist or dental specialist. Are you referring to the POTENTIAL salary, a FIXED salary of 300k/yr, or a production-based income with an yearly guarantee of 300k ?

In my book, GPs are somewhere around 50k - $144k/yr. As for specialists, I'm seeing them earn from $100k - $200k / yr. These are my figures for new grads. I wouldn't trust surveys from dental associations. I think the BLS statistics are more accurate because it gathers involuntary info from everyone. ...

Being non-invasive, orthos have the better ability to see even more patients than any other dentist.
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The lowest salary ad I've seen in the AAPD journal was for 175k/year. On my interviews the lowest salary I was offered was 200k/year. That 200k had production incentives tied to it. I'm not saying you'll sit around and make that, especially in pedo, you'll wear roller-skates all day long and see 50+ patients, but that income range is the norm.

There are routine pedo procedures that take less time than routine ortho procedures. I'll point you to a image capisce posted several months ago of his schedule on a busy day. I recall his practice (2 docs) saw 60+ recare patients that day and ~25 operative patients. Like I said, roller skates. Ortho and pedo are different strokes for different folks, and both are wonderful areas of dentistry. Don't choose either based on income potential or you'll be miserable.
 
ItsGavinC said:
The lowest salary ad I've seen in the AAPD journal was for 175k/year. On my interviews the lowest salary I was offered was 200k/year. That 200k had production incentives tied to it. I'm not saying you'll sit around and make that, especially in pedo, you'll wear roller-skates all day long and see 50+ patients, but that income range is the norm.

There are routine pedo procedures that take less time than routine ortho procedures. I'll point you to a image capisce posted several months ago of his schedule on a busy day. I recall his practice (2 docs) saw 60+ recare patients that day and ~25 operative patients. Like I said, roller skates. Ortho and pedo are different strokes for different folks, and both are wonderful areas of dentistry. Don't choose either based on income potential or you'll be miserable.
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What happened to me being wrong and new grads making close to 300K, eh Gavin? Obviously its possible with volume as I originally stated, but you make it seem like thats what people walk into which is far from the truth......

You gonna continue to fuel people's false hopes? Or you are gonna FINALLY admit that Gavin Christensen doesnt know it all?

See ya in Hawaii buddy.
 
DrBadVibes3 said:
What happened to me being wrong and new grads making close to 300K, eh Gavin? You gonna continue to fuel people's false hopes? Or you are gonna FINALLY admit that Gavin Christensen doesnt know it all?
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Nice false logic. Neither you nor I mentioned anything about "new grads" making 300k their first day out:
DrBadVibes3 said:
For instance, many people for some reason think that becoming a pediatric dentist automatically equates to a 300K/yr income.....no sorry, thats an orthodontist
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ItsGavinC said:
Pediatric dentists can easily earn 300k/year.
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We are talking about pediatric dentistry as a profession, where it is entirely possible to do so, especially since new grads ARE making 200k-275k their first day out.

From the current AAPD journal:

Pennsylvania--Pittsburgh: growing multi-specialty group practice seeks full-time pediatric dentist. $300,000+ compensation and partnership opportunity...

North Carolina--Charlotte area: Guaranteed starting salary of $250,000 and a $25,000 signing bonus

Floriday--Orlando: Guaranteed $240,000 minimum plus benefits

California--San Mateo: new doctor will have flexible schedule with up to $285,000 starting annual compensation.

It's funny that you are taking this stance since I'm the one that had job interviews 6 months ago. I'm sharing salary data that is from my own personal experiences, not heresay. Forum members may decide what information they deem useful to them, no need for your persistant personal attacks. I have nothing to gain with my posts.
 
Well, back to the original topic, it looks my class will have 10 applying to pedo out of 71. That seems like a huge number and I hope other school are not the same. From what I've seen, 2008 had the same number of applicants as 2007. It is good that number of applicants is leveling off. One thing I wonder is when will there be too many pediatric dentists? New programs are opening up all the time it seems like. My home town went from 1 pediatric dentist in 2000 to now 6. This really sucks since none of them are even from the state and I really want to go back. Bad luck I guess. As for the income potential, I think that is one reason why there are a lot more applicants. I think there are a lot of people who like general but would also like pedo. With the ability to get in with lower board scores and the income potential as an incentive, I think a lot more people are signing up. This demand must be fuelling the cause for more programs to open up. Just like dental schools, the demand has gone through the roof in recent years and there has been like 5 or 6 new schools starts or in the works. Just the fact that I probably won't be able to go back where I want to plant my roots got me thinking about backing out. That together with the prospect of two more years after it feels like I've been in school for ever really got me questioning why I want to specialize. But I have had too many positive experiences and love the feel of a private pedo office so much more than a general office that there isn't anything that could stop me from applying. I am really excited especially after doing some externships and seeing how much the residents love it compared to dental school. Everywhere I went, all the residents hated dental school (except those that went to Arizona) but loved their respective residencies. I can't control the variables like will I get in, or where will I go, or where will I end up. But I will be applying and hope to be competitive with all you other pedo freaks. My school seems to have some very competitive applicants. Some have very high scores, some are very involved in leadership, some have done a lot of research and some make up for any deficiencies on paper with a great personality. I hope we all get in, especially ME. Actually, I just hope I get in! All the rest of you can beat it. hows that for a rambling post.
 
DrBadVibes3 said:
What happened to me being wrong and new grads making close to 300K, eh Gavin? Obviously its possible with volume as I originally stated, but you make it seem like thats what people walk into which is far from the truth......

You gonna continue to fuel people's false hopes? Or you are gonna FINALLY admit that Gavin Christensen doesnt know it all?

See ya in Hawaii buddy.
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Dr. Bad Vibes,
Hold on... YOU will be in Hawaii? (cut to a scene of me cancelling my airline tickets)
FYI, I just signed on for just under $300,000 (guaranteed) for next year. I will probably make over that in bonuses if I work hard and don't spend too much time golfing, or with the ladies, or golfing with the ladies.
GavinC is right on the money (no pun intended) with his assessment. It IS what people are walking into consistantly. What experience are you using for your argument? Have you interviewed a lot this year for jobs? I have, and GavinC has, and we are telling you otherwise. You probably won't find jobs for anywhere close to $300,000 in SoCal, NYC, or any other saturated areas, but if you go where there is a need, you will find that you are more than earning close to that with sheer volume.
This may be controversial, but in pedo the more patients you treat and the busier you are, the higher the income potential..... *gasp*....shocking!
There's no blanket statement that is true in dentistry. Not ALL GPs struggle their first years out. Not ALL SC/RP can regain 0.015 mm of attachment. Not ALL orthodontists live a life of ease dating beautiful women and driving sports cars. Not ALL pedo guys come out making a great living..... but some do.
Every situation is different. GavinC was totally right when he said, "Pediatric dentists can easily earn 300k/year... I believe that nearly any pediatric dentist that wants to bring home 300k/year can do so. Many may not want to do so, but that doesn't mean they don't have the earning potential."
He owned you. Get over it, Bad Vibes.
 
I'm finishing up my first year in private practice as a pedo associate and will gross over 300k this year. That's with a 4 day work week and 1 Friday a month. I love pedo and love to work.

I will be giving it up to follow my dream of having my own practice. It's funny, but living off loans as a student I dreamt about the day I would make this much money for all of my hard work. Now that I'm here it's pretty much anti-climactic. I must be nuts to give it up for a scratch start but happiness trumps money.

To those interested in doing pedo out of financial motivation...you are going to hate your life trust me. For those who love their occupation like I do, it's very rewarding.

Badvibes as usual you are clueless.
 
Pedo Unicorn said:
Dr. Bad Vibes,
Hold on... YOU will be in Hawaii? (cut to a scene of me cancelling my airline tickets)
FYI, I just signed on for just under $300,000 (guaranteed) for next year. I will probably make over that in bonuses if I work hard and don't spend too much time golfing, or with the ladies, or golfing with the ladies.
GavinC is right on the money (no pun intended) with his assessment. It IS what people are walking into consistantly. What experience are you using for your argument? Have you interviewed a lot this year for jobs? I have, and GavinC has, and we are telling you otherwise. You probably won't find jobs for anywhere close to $300,000 in SoCal, NYC, or any other saturated areas, but if you go where there is a need, you will find that you are more than earning close to that with sheer volume.
This may be controversial, but in pedo the more patients you treat and the busier you are, the higher the income potential..... *gasp*....shocking!
There's no blanket statement that is true in dentistry. Not ALL GPs struggle their first years out. Not ALL SC/RP can regain 0.015 mm of attachment. Not ALL orthodontists live a life of ease dating beautiful women and driving sports cars. Not ALL pedo guys come out making a great living..... but some do.
Every situation is different. GavinC was totally right when he said, "Pediatric dentists can easily earn 300k/year... I believe that nearly any pediatric dentist that wants to bring home 300k/year can do so. Many may not want to do so, but that doesn't mean they don't have the earning potential."
He owned you. Get over it, Bad Vibes.
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Congrats on getting a job. I have a few questions I hope you won't mind answering. Where are you going? Is this for an associate position? How do you know what you are worth when you interview with a practice? Do you just take what they offer or do you wheel and deal? Did you hire a lawyer to look over the contract? What is the population of the area you will be serving and how many pediatric dentists are there? Thanks.
 
Im sticking to my original point......if you guys think that new grads can "easily" make 300K, then ur sending out dellusional thoughts from fantasy island.....

I read the same journals as you do, see the same ads, talk to the same pediatric dentists.......I know its possible, but if your working as a new associate out of residency and want to make 300K/year, your not gonna have the flexibility of where you want to practice, cause you'll be chasing the all mighty dollar and your gonna be seeing a million patients a day, and to me, that is not considered "easy"

If people wanna apply to pedo for financial gains, then go right ahead....thats exactly what our profession needs......more greed...and Gavin who consistently talks about income and his potential throughout the years on these forums only helps to fuel the fire....

Guess the public health you learned at Arizona really did a number on you, eh big guy?
 
Pedo Unicorn said:
Dr. Bad Vibes,
Hold on... YOU will be in Hawaii? (cut to a scene of me cancelling my airline tickets)
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yep......leaving in 4 days......heading out for 3 weeks....isnt residency great

too bad ur not comin.....was looking forward to meeting you guys at the new dentist happy hour and toasting our new found wealth and life of luxury to the sounds of the ukulele.....maybe ill see you guys next year in chicago

Mahalo
 
atlanta478 said:
- No endo
- No RPD
- No bad breath
- No old crazy men (except parents)
- No old/ immature crazy women (except parents)
- No lack of patents
- Not a bad income
- and last but not least - bad pedo patient is better than a good adult one :D
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"except parents" = means instead of every crazy patient just being a crazy patient, now every patient has two crazy parents.

As for "bad pedo patient is better than a good adult one", my only response is to ask what planet you're from, because it sure ain't this one. ;)

That said, I have the utmost respect for pediatric dentists, because I think they have the hardest job in the entire profession. Hats off to you guys.
 
DrBadVibes3 said:
Im sticking to my original point......if you guys think that new grads can "easily" make 300K, then ur sending out dellusional thoughts from fantasy island.....

I know its possible, but if your working as a new associate out of residency and want to make 300K/year, your not gonna have the flexibility of where you want to practice,
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Unfortunately, it's gotten to the point where you aren't even making sense anymore. First you threw in "new asssociates," and now you are talking flexibility? Keep throwing those caveats out there, because all the data shows you're wrong.

Best of luck in your profession, and have a great time in Hawaii.
 
DrBadVibes3 said:
Im sticking to my original point......if you guys think that new grads can "easily" make 300K, then ur sending out dellusional thoughts from fantasy island.....

I read the same journals as you do, see the same ads, talk to the same pediatric dentists.......I know its possible, but if your working as a new associate out of residency and want to make 300K/year, your not gonna have the flexibility of where you want to practice, cause you'll be chasing the all mighty dollar and your gonna be seeing a million patients a day, and to me, that is not considered "easy"

If people wanna apply to pedo for financial gains, then go right ahead....thats exactly what our profession needs......more greed...and Gavin who consistently talks about income and his potential throughout the years on these forums only helps to fuel the fire
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Now that you're adding stipulations, let's make it really interesting so that you can be correct, stroke your ego, and get on with your life.
Badvibes new conditions:
"A pediatric dentist cannot easily and flexibly expect to make $300,000 a year right out of residency living next door to mom and pops in a desirable area (as deemed desirable by BadVibes, LLC) which is is saturated with dentists while being flexible and while seeing 10 kids per day."
Okay, you win, BadVibes. You would be totally correct in this scenario. Game, set, match.
Obviously your opinion as a first year resident trumps the combined experiences of multiple people who have signed contracts and/or who have been working in private practice. I better look at my contract again. Maybe I misread it. Thank you for sharing your expertise and insight. Let's keep chasing our tails around the room.
P.S. Accusing people you don't know of doing things "for the money" is a pretty tool-ish thing to do. We all have student loans and some of us have family responsibilities. Get off the soapbox.
 
Case2010 said:
Congrats on getting a job. I have a few questions I hope you won't mind answering. Where are you going? Is this for an associate position? How do you know what you are worth when you interview with a practice? Do you just take what they offer or do you wheel and deal? Did you hire a lawyer to look over the contract? What is the population of the area you will be serving and how many pediatric dentists are there? Thanks.
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Great questions Case. I had a range of offers in different places where my wife and I were interested in living. The best offer I received (salary and benefits wise) we turned down because we really didn't want to live there after we looked into it more (somewhat out in the middle of nowhere, although a great opportunity long-term). The lowest offer I got was a nice area, but a little saturated ("great place to live", hence the plethora of Pediatric Dentists), but the main point was that I didn't feel it was a good fit for me. The one I took was in the middle, salary-wise, but we love the area. It is an associate position. Definitely have a lawyer look over everything. You can wheel and deal if you want, but I was happy with everything. I asked for a few minor changes here and there. Everyone is different as far as what they are looking for. I was looking for a decent base salary (so I would be sure I could make my loan payments) with incentives over that based on production. (i.e. If I work hard and produce more, then I am rewarded for doing so). I am lucky to be joining a really busy practice, so I'm not worried about that. Mostly I picked the practice where I felt the most comfortable with things (schools for my kids, work environment, patients-a-plenty). I could have gone somewhere else and "made more", but that's not what I was looking for. Everyone is different, though. Best of luck to you.
 
aphistis said:
"except parents" = means instead of every crazy patient just being a crazy patient, now every patient has two crazy parents.

As for "bad pedo patient is better than a good adult one", my only response is to ask what planet you're from, because it sure ain't this one. ;)

That said, I have the utmost respect for pediatric dentists, because I think they have the hardest job in the entire profession. Hats off to you guys.
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- SOME - would be a correct statement. Every – is questionable at least.
- I expressed my opinion. SOME, including DDS Bill, may disagree. I would repeat my statement again - "bad pedo patient is better than a good adult one". As a Pediatric Dentist you have many more tools to work with kids, than GP with the adult population.
- That sad, during last few years, I appreciated many and used SOME of DDS Bill's recommendations / comments.
 
I will have to agree with Gavin on this one. If you want to make 300K a year you typically will, the patient population is there in most places. The reason I believe this is so readily possible is because this pedo is not a saturated specialty. Yes, obviously there will be saturated areas, but far fewer than say Ortho/OMFS. I know that coming out of OMFS I could probably make over 300K my first year, but I would be confined to going somewhere completely undesirable. As it stands, I will likely choose somewhere more geographically desirable and pay the price with starting salary, and worse probably have to ***** myself out for referrals. That is why pedo seems so great now. There seem to be tons of jobs, and many are in desirable locations.

For what it is worth, I think Pedo is probably the best specialty to be in now, strictly speaking financial/jobs/opportunity. I dont know where or if a pedodontist may cap in terms of salary, but if I could get a job offer for 300K in a desirable area I would be ecstatic. That being said, I would rather do OMFS for free than pedo for 300K. God bless those of you who put up with those little brats.
 
InMyCrossHairs said:
God bless those of you who put up with those little brats.
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It's funny because I think most of us pedo guys would agree that we can handle the crying 3, 4, and 5 year olds, because it's somewhat expected and normal for a 3-5 year old to have separation issues, anxiety, whatever. I can deal with that.
What I can't deal with are the obnoxious parents ("Don't worry Timmy. Mommy's right here. I won't let them hurt you.") and the annoying older kids (especially the teenagers) who should be able to cope with stuff, but are just whiny babies and throw their little fits and try to get attention. I'd take a 5 year old new patient over a 14 year old new patient any day.
Plus, most kids are great, and you help them have a good experience, and that makes it all worth while.
 
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