Which presidential candidate should Osteopathic Physicians vote for and why?

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The election is coming up and I'm too involved in school to follow politics closely. Which candidates have spoken about increasing GME funding and greater incentives for primary care? Does anyone care? Does anyone know where i can find out without googling stuff for 3 hours?
 

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I like politics, but I've not heard anything out of any canidates for doctors. I don't think I ever do.
 

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Rand Paul. He'd repeal the travesty called the affordable care act and use the free market to drive down costs for pts, increase reimbursement for docs, and drive down pay for insurance admin and CYA medicine. And put a halt on federal student loan driven tuition increases that got us to the point we're at while letting you deduct student loans from your taxes. Win win for everyone but the insurance execs.
 

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Rand Paul. He'd repeal the travesty called the affordable care act and use the free market to drive down costs for pts, increase reimbursement for docs, and drive down pay for insurance admin and CYA medicine. And put a halt on federal student loan driven tuition increases that got us to the point we're at while letting you deduct student loans from your taxes. Win win for everyone but the insurance execs.
I mean maybe you thought the topic was something else. But, we're talking politics here and what you stated is simply way too logical
 
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Rand Paul is the ideal candidate, but sadly it looks now like he has no chance of getting the nomination. Thus, you should vote for whoever gets the Republican nomination. Any Democrat (especially Bernie Sanders) would have us working for their magical $15 minimum wage since health care is an inalienable right that nobody should ever profit from providing.
 

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Rand Paul is the ideal candidate, but sadly it looks now like he has no chance of getting the nomination. Thus, you should vote for whoever gets the Republican nomination. Any Democrat (especially Bernie Sanders) would have us working for their magical $15 minimum wage since health care is an inalienable right that nobody should ever profit from providing.
Agree Completely
The guy admitted he's a socialist and Clinton has been working on socialized medicine since before some of us were even born.
 

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The guy admitted he's a socialist and Clinton has been working on socialized medicine since before some of us were even born.
Let's be real, if they want to do like other countries with socialized medicine and pay for my medical school I'd take the pay cut. Not to $15/hr, but it would destroy us if they cut our pay and we still spiral a couple hundred thousand dollars in debt.
 
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Cue Seth Joo.

And Ben Carson for VP. The Left loves to insult Donald Trump, but Trump knows something the other "Career Politicians" do not, he understands Capitalism, its kind of what made America great. There are other businessmen probably bigger than Trump, one of them, Steve Jobs is unfortunately not alive, so he cannot run for President. Others have no interest.

He unlike Mitt Romney, is a genuine businessman, he actually created jobs and wealth, something that is sorely needed in the White House.

Jeb Bush??!! LOL. Rand Paul, No way.

As far as the Democrats, its either Hilary, Sanders, or Joe Biden. And its going to be Trump for the Republicans. Trump is building his brand for the White House the same way Obama did back in 2008, he is appealing to upset voters. "Make America Great Again" is "Hope and Change" for 2016.
 
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I normally dont spout political opinions on the internet, so here's a nonpolitical one... Trump is a fool and an embarassment to the country. He is a lowest common denominator entertainer and a shameless narcissist.
 
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I normally dont spout political opinions on the internet, so here's a nonpolitical one... Trump is a fool and an embarassment to the country. He is a lowest common denominator entertainer and a shameless narcissist.
I think narcissist can describe 99 percent of the leaders in Washington, "fool" and "embarrassment" as well.
 
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Is your point that he fits in? Or do you disagree, and you just dropped a red herring commentary on Washington for kicks?
 

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I normally dont spout political opinions on the internet, so here's a nonpolitical one... Trump is a fool and an embarassment to the country. He is a lowest common denominator entertainer and a shameless narcissist.
Trump may not be a saint by any means, but are most of the other candidates, or our current leaders, all that better? We can agree he was spot on with at least one statement...that our nation's leaders are idiots.
 
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All other candidates are much better. Trump is in way over his head.
 
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All other candidates are much better. Trump is in way over his head.
Right now polls seem to say otherwise, Jeb Bush was the uncontested Republican front runner, and he is now in the single digits. Rand Paul looked promising as well and his candidacy is already finished. The only two in the running are Trump and Carson.

There are a lot of people upset about Trump's stance on immigration matters and there are many voters who support his stance on the matter. Also the media seems to overlook other issues that Trump has been outspoken. In terms of the economy he has been outspoken about massive underemployment among the Gen Y and the amount of student debt so many young people now have, I think that is an issue that concerns many and its changing the way so many people live these days.

I actually voted for Obama back in 2008, and did not vote for him in 2012, I thought he was a massive disappointment. Trump actually thought Obama had some promise, he criticized Bush left and right as one of the worst administrations in history, he help hope that Obama might turn things around but Obama turned into major disappointment. He was extremely upset at Obama's reelection back in 2012, glad he decided to get into the ring and fix things.

Got to respect a guy who can body slam Vince McMahon.
 

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All other candidates are much better. Trump is in way over his head.
regardless, I think it is wise to put emotions aside (difficult to do with Trump, but still) and consider each candidate in a fair, dispassionate manner.
 

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regardless, I think it is wise to put emotions aside (difficult to do with Trump, but still) and consider each candidate in a fair, dispassionate manner.
Kind of how you win elections in our country.
 

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Kind of how you win elections in our country.
doesn't mean every citizen needs to give into it though. you should not let emotions get in the way of making informed, reasoned, researched decisions about who you vote for, plain and simple.
 
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Kind of how you win elections in our country.
Kind of why Trump is doing so well in the polls, he is daring to talk about things that no other politician would talk about. The media has been fixated about his immigration stance, but there are many other issues Trump has been talking about, the economy has been another, particularly jobs. The last 15 years has not been great for American workers, Trump has been blunt about that. Of all the candidates, Trump's business experience makes him the most suited to handle the economy, which frankly has not been good for most Americans, unless you are part of the upper class, you are not out of the recession.
 

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Kind of why Trump is doing so well in the polls, he is daring to talk about things that no other politician would talk about. The media has been fixated about his immigration stance, but there are many other issues Trump has been talking about, the economy has been another, particularly jobs. The last 15 years has not been great for American workers, Trump has been blunt about that. Of all the candidates, Trump's business experience makes him the most suited to handle the economy, which frankly has not been good for most Americans, unless you are part of the upper class, you are not out of the recession.
I mean I'm all for a non-socialistic country. But, I can't say I support trump. He's just so.... yeah......
 
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I mean I'm all for a non-socialistic country. But, I can't say I support trump. He's just so.... yeah......
We already are a socialistic country. Fait accompli. Trump is so popular because the mainstream politicians in both parties have bought into left wing socialism, Trump is an old line conservative, like Reagan. He also has that alpha male character that people tend to love in leaders, people in desperate times tend to love strong men.

The two big Republican front runners are dead, Jeb Bush is gone, as if his brother's epic disaster of a Presidency should have precluded him already, and Rand Paul went out with a wimper. Ben Carson will probably be a good VP pick for Trump.
 
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doesn't mean every citizen needs to give into it though. you should not let emotions get in the way of making informed, reasoned, researched decisions about who you vote for, plain and simple.
I understand what you are saying and agree; however, have you met the average voter? I would wager 95% of people vote based off of what they see on CNN/Fox News/ MSNBC etc.

In fact, I can't recall the last "average joe" I have met who has actually done research on this subject. All they do is watch the debates and then let CNN decide for them.
 
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We already are a socialistic country. Fait accompli. Trump is so popular because the mainstream politicians in both parties have bought into left wing socialism, Trump is an old line conservative, like Reagan. He also has that alpha male character that people tend to love in leaders, people in desperate times tend to love strong men.
I've lived in socialistic countries and we are still a lot more free then where I have lived.
 
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I've lived in socialistic countries and we are still a lot more free then where I have lived.
Many of the voters supporting Trump are remembering America a from a while back, so they got a different point of reference than you. Compare America in Reagan years to today there is no comparison.
 

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Many of the voters supporting Trump are remembering America a from a while back, so they got a different point of reference than you. Compare America in Reagan years to today there is no comparison.
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Kind of why Trump is doing so well in the polls, he is daring to talk about things that no other politician would talk about. The media has been fixated about his immigration stance, but there are many other issues Trump has been talking about, the economy has been another, particularly jobs. The last 15 years has not been great for American workers, Trump has been blunt about that. Of all the candidates, Trump's business experience makes him the most suited to handle the economy, which frankly has not been good for most Americans, unless you are part of the upper class, you are not out of the recession.
http://abc7.com/politics/poll-trump-would-beat-democrats-in-presidential-election/970743/
 

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I've come to terms with the fact that Carson has the most experience in healthcare and would be best on that front.

Now, whether he would be good for virtually any other facet of the presidency is still open for debate. Personally, the idea that he doesn't believe in evolution makes me incredibly... let's say.... "wary."
 
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Trump is going to be the next President, the establishment is scared already. Good.
When it comes down to it, Im almost positive Trump would lose to any Democrat frontrunner. I remember in 2012 there were all sorts of polls showing the Republican front runner of the week beating Obama. People legit thought Newt was going to get the nomination, then the 5-5-5 guy whose name escapes me, even Rick effing Perry was considered the favorite at one point. Its ironic because I think Trump's platform is the way for Republicans to have a shot against Democrats at the presidential level. But not Trump, I dont see the American people voting for him when they actually step into the booth. Its also hard to take his anti-aristocrat rhetoric seriously when he is the ultimate aristocrat.
 
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When it comes down to it, Im almost positive Trump would lose to any Democrat frontrunner. I remember in 2012 there were all sorts of polls showing the Republican front runner of the week beating Obama. People legit thought Newt was going to get the nomination, then the 5-5-5 guy whose name escapes me, even Rick effing Perry was considered the favorite at one point. Its ironic because I think Trump's platform is the way for Republicans to have a shot against Democrats at the presidential level. But not Trump, I dont see the American people voting for him when they actually step into the booth. Its also hard to take his anti-aristocrat rhetoric seriously when he is the ultimate aristocrat.
Well only time will tell, and things are shaping up for a more rightward move into politics, there is a large enough segment of the population upset with establishment politicians for Trump to have a real chance. Perry is one of Trump's most outspoken critics and enemies and has no chance of being President any more. Mitt Romney was recently approached about running and gave no comment another one with zero chance.

I would prefer Trump over having Jeb, imagine another Bush in the White House? Trump won points with me because he totally skewered big figures in both parties. He has been outspoken against both Bush and Obama, who have been largely failed Presidencies.

Hilary is the front runner but her campaign is already in trouble.
 
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not a relevant quality since the current U.S. economic system doesn't resemble FM capitalism in any meaningful way.
I am talking about bringing it back, which would bring America back, yes the current US economic system is not a free market economic model.

Hilary has been the favorite for a while.
 
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not trying to get into a huge argument or anything but I would just like to utter a thought. there will be TONS and TONS of anti-obama and anti-hillary voters that will turn out and vote for anyone on the republican ticket. And the TONS and TONS of anti-George Bush voters and minority demographics who voted Obama in do not have the same enthusiasm as 2008/2012. There will be no land slides like in 2008. Hillary clinton is boring and no demographic or base is doing summer salts and going bonkers like they were in 2008.
It would be a great day for America to see Trump win because it would be a slap in the face to the establishment political elite that has control of this country's government and political system.

Hilary vs. Jeb Bush?? Give me a break. Jeb is pure establishment, he comes from a political establishment family, we already had a horrific experience with his older brother as President, do we really want another Bush?

I recall people thinking that Obama would have an uphill struggle winning in 2008, but he clinched the nomination, and he won a landslide victory, then people said he would be only a one term President, and he won again. One thing he has in common with Trump is that he is a showman, he knows how to dazzle people. Trump has a similar kind of charisma.
 
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No mention of Jill Stein? I personally think she has one of the most sober opinions on health care of all the candidates.
 

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Also the Reagan years. Jesus man, can we not pretend that, that decade was not a combination of tons of disasters ranging from Iran-Contra, ignoring HIV/AIDS, spending billions on bombs to scare a country that had essentially economically been broken by the beginning of the 80s, trickle down economics, releasing mentally ill patients into the streets rather than spend money to keep hospitals open, and generally all sorts of repugnant actions?

I mean, by all means we can pretend we're freer than other nations. But honestly, the notion of America the great is ludicrous these days. Chances are you'll be safer, healthier, live longer, be happier, your children's future will be safer, and etc just by relocating across the Canadian boarder than continuing here.
 
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