Who's going to RCSI?

[Wandaa]

hey guys, well i think i'm going to accept the RCSI offer...anyone else?

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[fifi]

I am going to accept my RCSI offer....now that I made up my mind, I am getting nervous about the $$ and the risk I am about to undertake.

is anyone living in residence? what is mercer court / millin house like? can anybody in the school comment on this for me?
what would your advice be for a first year student who likes privacy/quietness?

 

[Wandaa]

hey fifi! just a couple questions...where are you from? do you think you're going to go for the residence or try to find an apartment? i'm canadian and i'm sort of debating living is res and having my own place. and congrats on the acceptance! i guess i'll see you there!

 

[john182]

I am going to accept my RCSI offer....now that I made up my mind, I am getting nervous about the $$ and the risk I am about to undertake.

is anyone living in residence? what is mercer court / millin house like? can anybody in the school comment on this for me?
what would your advice be for a first year student who likes privacy/quietness?

Don't worry about the investment mate every American in my class there matched in 1st choices from ENT, gen surg, OBGYN you name it. It's one of the best investments to make for a medical degree given the history, training and international recongition with Harvard's own surgical teaching programme. Don't worry whether it's a risk. It's an investment in yourself and when you are raking in the entire 6 years fees in a single year as an attending you'll feel better.

Mercer Court is a good place to start as it's right in the city centre and across the road from the college. Most people by end of 1st year will have moved out into houses or apartments with other people they'll have met in the class. Mercer is good for max 2 years as then rotations send you outside RCSI to the hospitals and so on.

It can be quiet and noise. There are a lot of parties but again depends on who's there. Good place to start though to blend into Dublin.

 

[fifi]

wandaa:
I'm from vancouver. My choice is to live in res for at least the first year, I think this is easier for me - new place, new school, new culture., etc. I'm just trying to choose between millin house and mercer court.
any suggestions?

 

[john182]

wandaa:
I'm from vancouver. My choice is to live in res for at least the first year, I think this is easier for me - new place, new school, new culture., etc. I'm just trying to choose between millin house and mercer court.
any suggestions?

Mercer COurt is better. It's like 4 bed apartments. Millin House is more communal and has a large kitchen to share, etc., with sharing TV room and so on. Mercer Court is 4 bed units, each with lockable doors and individual bathrooms and with TV and kitchen shared amongst the four of you.

It's a bit more expensive but worth it.

 

[Wandaa]

hey fifi! i'm from montreal and also trying to figure out the residence/apartment stuff. i think it's quite a bit more expensive to get a single room in mercer court than an apartment off campus, but the experience may be worth it. are you considering off campus at all?

 

[navincal]

hi everybody
yeh i have decided to accept RCSI offer too. first, i am from california. i lived in dorms during my first year in college. but now i think its time to be more independent. i am still trying to figure out maps online, so that i could decide where i want to rent an apartment. any suggestions would help.

 

[dirtymac42]

well, on behalf of everyone already here at RCSI, cead mile failte (you're very welcome...you as gaeilge ppl can correct my atrocious spelling)

so, u don't want to live in rez, well i can understand that, u've had enough of it.... honestly for one year, mercer ain't that bad... there's no meal plan or any of that stuff and ur close to college and a shopping centre with a supermarket and REALLY close to library.... hahah and there's free internet but no outgoing phone... but.... if u don't want to hazard the former mental hospital (cuz thats what mercer court used to be!) check daft (www.daft.ie) for places in Dublin 2.... that way u'll never be more than a 15 min walk from college....

also popular is ranelagh (cuz it's right on the luas line so it drops u right in front of college), rathmines (cuz there's lots of foreigners and students), and harold's cross (cuz it's on the 16A bus route which goes near college, near Beaumont hospital and to the airport) which are all dublin 6 or 6w

as far as maps of the city, the best one by far is on the Journey Planner on www.dto.ie cuz u can zoom right into an aerial photo of the city

hope this helps.... and the best advice i can give once u get to ireland is just to go with the flow, things don't operate as they do in north america (as you'll soon find out) and some things u will get accustomed to easier than others, but don't fret, soon you'll settle right in and it'll be grand....

laters

 

[medgirl20]

Mecer is nice it's like normal apartments ignore the bit on the website about no party's etc you will be literally a 1 min walk from the library and 3mins from college the supermarket etc. PM or email me if you have any other q's and I'll try to help

 

[Chiq]

How big are the bedrooms in Mercer, and do they just randomly assign you roommates or are there roommate preferences/matching that you do here in the U.S when you're a freshman? I haven't gotten in but just curious....

 

[medgirl20]

How big are the bedrooms in Mercer, and do they just randomly assign you roommates or are there roommate preferences/matching that you do here in the U.S when you're a freshman? I haven't gotten in but just curious....

The bedrooms are big enough they have a bed wardrobe large study desk in them the ensuite bathroom is small but it's your own which I think appeals to a lot of people not having to share. If you know other people you can request to share with them. They seem to put people of the same nationality together ie an apartment of canadians and an apartment of malaysians rather than mixing the nationalities. Some of the rooms are bigger than others but I think that just depends on the luck of the draw what size room you get.

 

[Chiq]

To those who have been accepted to RCSI (if you don't mind answering, of course)...What kind of stats did you guys have?
I am waiting to hear if/not I get a June interview.... haven't heard anything yet, they told me that I'd hear 30 days before the interview date..
Just getting a bit nervous, and I read the Trinity thread ..sounds like a lot of ppl got rejected sort of freaking me out.. so if you have any advice/encouragement, please share!

 

[endosmoke]

hi im currently attending rcsi... i was in residence last year. I highly recommend staying in mercer as it will be the year where you will make most of your friends. Granted it is cheaper and a better deal if u dont live there but in terms of making close friends that you will be with for the next 5-6 years I think its worth it. I am not saying u are socially innept, just that its different when u live amongst students who rae all in your class.. its just easier in terms of hanging out and going out etc...

however if u are really strapped for cash then u should go somewhere else obviously.

The actual mercer rooms rae tiny as hell. Its basically a bed, a washroom, and a desk fit in a confined space. There is 4 people who share a common tv room plus kitchen. You have high speed internet access and can only receive incoming calls. You are also right next to the library (although I don't see you being there especially if u are in pre-med.) There are also cleaning ladies who comes once a week to clean your room and the common living area.

One problem is the hot water. There is one giant water boiler for the 4 people, but that hot water will run out fast so make sure you always turn the water boiler on boost. In terms of doing your laundry you will have to go to Millen house, whihc is located literally right next to mercer buildings to do your laundry, no big deal. They use to have washers/dryers in the common living area, no clue why they removed it. Also each room has a heater as well.

Thats it, there is no meal plan so u will have to go buy your food. The supermarket is also conviently located like literally 2mins walk from mercer so its easy to buy groceries. The fridge space is kinda frustrating as it is quite small i find for 4 people, thus making you taking a visit to the supermarket every 3 days or less!

Letme know if u have any questions.

stephen

 

[PBateman]

Don't worry about the investment mate every American in my class there matched in 1st choices from ENT, gen surg, OBGYN you name it. It's one of the best investments to make for a medical degree given the history, training and international recongition with Harvard's own surgical teaching programme. Don't worry whether it's a risk. It's an investment in yourself and when you are raking in the entire 6 years fees in a single year as an attending you'll feel better.

John182 what are you smoking?!?


Did the RCSI pay you to tell those lies?

I can poke more holes in your arguement than I can poke in your mother and little sister combined!

Lets start with the match! Very few people from the RCSI match in the USA. In reality it is only 10% of the class at the most. Considering most of the class can't speak, write or read English by the time they graduate, they haven't a hope of matching. Accordingly, most RCSI grads are stuck with dead end careers in Ireland... which is probably a good thing considering how incompetent they are. At least there mistakes will be confined to the ugly moss covered rock in the middle of the Atlantic where a couple more stuttering, mouth breathing, knuckle draggers will not be noticed! The girl with the club foot and eye patch who works the midnight to 6am shift at the gas station knows more about medicine than most RCSI grads... and she didn't have to fork over €35,000 per year. My insincerest apologies if that piece of work is your mother, John182

Don't worry about the tuition?!? Yeah right! At €35,000 per year and rising, you should be sweating buckets! Be very suspicious when a Paddy forces you to sign a binding agreement when you commence your studies, demands €35,000 per year and guarantees NOTHING in return. Be very cautious! Better yet, give me the €35,000 per year so my Yale alumni buddies and I can go out for dinner at Dorsia in Manhattan, then go on a coke bender for Memorial Day weekend. Don't worry, we are gentlemen and we will be sure to invite your little sister. The bonus for you is that you'll save money by not having to buy a plane ticket to Dublin and you won't get TB and MRSA (a rite of passage at RCSI). What do you get for those crazy fees? ...nothing! No teaching in the clinical years, no opportunity to perform procedures and no responsibility at all. However this is probably a good thing considering the quality of the students the fabled RCSI. RCSI is all about the the R's: Racism, getting Ripped off and taking it in the Rear!

Aligned with Harvard's surgical training program? My ass! I am a Yale boy and I can tell you for sure RCSI is more closely aligned with training programs in Ethiopia! In Ireland, you have to do 3 years of post grad training before you can do the basic surgical skills course, which teaches you to suture and cast broken bones. Congratulations sparky! €35,000 for 6 years, then 3 years of training so you can function at the level of a 3rd year American medicl student! USA #1!!!!!! Your mommy will be very proud of you when you suture your first wound on your 40th birthday! By that time, I will be retired and spending my days at the Yale alumni club in Manhattan sipping cocktails served to me by some failed RCSI wanna-be hack. John182, take note! I like my drinks with extra ice. You have to work for that tip Paddy!

Rake that money back!?!? John182, the only thing you will ever rake in is scorn and ridicule. In fact, as I type this at the Yale alumni club in Manhattan, my buddies can hardly keep their canapes and merlot down... but that could be the coke... Just precisely where will you be an attending, let alone making that sort of money. I can guarantee you that unless you go to a "real" medical school, you will spend your days swabbing for rectal chlamydia somewhere in North Dublin. But hey, look at the bright side: you'll see your mom on a regular basis.

The truth is John182 couldn't buy his way into a cheaper medical school and he is stuck trying to rationalise his lame assed decision. Should studied harder butt boy!

PB Jr.

 

[bjw69]

Wow there is some serious pent up aggression coming from "PB Jr." Probably still mad about not making it into Harvard. Or because he found out that there were other options for medical school than killing youself for three years and finish a bitter, souless, pale drone that's pissed off at the world cause he thought that going to med school would get him and his little penis laid and it hasn't. Truth is, the only bush he has seen is the picture of our mildly retarted president that hangs somewhere on the alumni walls of his over rated instution. Taking cheap shots at Yale is much too easy, so I will address some of the comments made by PB Jr. Truth is, over 90percent of the students in my class that entered the match matched their first choice. Several even interviewed at Yale hospitals but didn't rank them high because they were full of people like PB jr. It is true that half of the class has english as a second language, I know its hard for PB jr to understand that there are other places in this world where english is not spoken and how difficult it is to learn another language not to mention studying medicine in another language. But they do it and most do it well, and then go back to their home countries that are not fortunate enough to have the training facilities that the western world has and re-learn medicine in their native laguage. I have had the most fun and enjoyable experience of my life studying in Europe. I have seen and done more in my time here than PB jr could even imagine in the wettest of his wet dreams. So PB jr you and your homo erotic merlot sipping pretentious "crownys" keep on fooling yourselves with that toilet paper you call a degree. Hookers and coke on daddies money is the closest you will ever come to happiness and self fullfillment. Seriously hope you don't blow your head off when you find out your "trophy wife" is banging the poolman because you were more interested in giving rectal exams to your club members with your 2 1/5 inch ding-a-ling than satisfying her because you never learned how to please a woman.
Yours truly,
Most relaxed med student ever.

 

[ronin13]

This was my favourite part.

In fact, as I type this at the Yale alumni club in Manhattan, my buddies can hardly keep their canapes and merlot down... but that could be the coke...
PB Jr.

Come on, there's no need to respond to a fake post from a guy who copped him name from American Psycho. Have a laugh and ignore.

 

[PBateman]

bjw69, your mommy must be very proud. Speaking of your mommy, her 5 O'clock shadow really iritated my sensitive inner thigh!

You think you are relaxed?!? You have no idea! I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth and a stack of Benjamins in each hand. More importantly, that blow job your mother gave me last night has really mellowed me out!

Rather than waste too much time responding to you lame ass attempt at an insult, let me make 3 important points:

1. You couldn't get in anywhere else, so you went to the RCSI. In fact your Trisomy 21 is so profound that you couldn't get into someplace cheaper.

2. Your sister was great last night!

3. Hey hey it's okay, you're gonna work for me some day!

ta ta, gotta go. Polo match later today then a coke fuelled bender at the Yale club.

Yours Sincerely in superiority,
Patrick Bateman Jr.

 

[dmonroe]

I am an American final medical year student at RCSI.

This discussion has become a bit juvenile, even for a Yale grad (sharing a diploma with George W: proof of intellect) don't you think?

For those of you who are unaware, there is indeed growing tension because of the increasing cost of tuition at RCSI. Much of this is justified. Unfortunately, what started (a while back, and not on this website) as an interesting analysis of the value of an RCSI education has become a purile, bitter and indeed ignorant discussion that has little to offer those considering RCSI as an option.

A couple of things I have noted:
There are indeed Americans who come to RCSI and hate it. Many of these are from affluent backgrounds where they are used to a certain amount of social and professional recognition as a birthright. When they migrate to Ireland they are no longer a part of the ruling majority. The lack of familiarity and the loss of this recognition makes them unhappy. If they can, they switch out (and should). I should add that I come from what would be considered an affluent white background, but have experienced none of these feelings. If you are open-minded, and able to find happiness in a variety of environments, not just one, you'll probably like it here.

So in short here are, as I see them, the plusses and minuses of attending RCSI as an American:

Plusses:
1) Two academic years of anatomy, one being neuroanatomy, the other gross. American medical student average about three months of this important course.
2) Three years of clinical training.
3) The ability to diagnose clinically, regardless of the availability technology. This is probably the most attractive thing about studying in Europe. Ask an American student to differentiate between extradural and subarachnoid bleed, and he'll tell you to use an MRI. Ask a European medical student the same question, and he'll ask you about the patient. Both should arrive at the same answer. The European trained medical student can 'do it without a calculator'. Examples like this are common. Do not underestimate the importance of this. Ask any trained physician, regardless of specialty.
4) Proximity to Europe. At times, because of the elongated course, you will have time to travel. Take a textbook to Belgium for under a hundred euros round-trip. Visit a hospital in Tunisia or Poland (have done all of these). Achieve some perspective about your professional life.
5) Matching in the US, if you want it, is not a problem. This has been proven time and again. Two last year matched at the Mayo clinic, and people have gone to Columbia, Urology at the Cleveland Clinic, and straight into plastic surgery. Even my Norwegian wife matched in a major teaching university for general surgery. Almost everyone else got their first choice. These are the facts.

Minuses:
1) It's getting pretty expensive (especially as the dollar gets weaker). This goes for both living expenses and tuition. I'm not sure if this will change. I don't anticipate problems paying my loans back.
2) At times the school can be conservative, and slow to evolve. Student opinion can, at times, be undervalued when compared with the US. Even so, evolution is taking place.
3) Overcrowding on the wards and in facilities may become an issue (some think it already is) if the school continues to increase the class size without expanding student facilities.

These are just a few from both sides. In all I have enjoyed my time here, and if I had to choose again (between med schools in Houston, Philly and Dublin) I'd make the same exact choice. I feel that the education I received is superior. Both of my parents are specialists - one trained in the states and one in Europe - and they agree.

One added note. When deciding on a medical school, it is not often wise to take the advice of people prone to vulgarity, racism, sexism or just general ignorance, no matter what college they attended. They are usually not the best people, or indeed the best physicians.

 

[Sage880]

Not to harp on RCSI at all, but I don't understand why people would attend there instead of one of the other Irish schools. Regardless about what you hear, the quality of teaching and facilities is pretty much the same at all of the 5 schools. The course certainly is the same. Ireland just isn't big enough for programs to really go off in their own direction.

Bottom line, if RCSI was the same tuition as other Irish med schools I would have considered it. However, I do enjoy that my class is mostly Irish students. I think the majority of RCSI is American, right? I don't like the idea of going to a school in a country where the school seems to exist to train people for another country (the carribean schools as well).

I do agree with dmonroe's points about the pluses of the school but think they apply to all Irish med schools - not RCSI in particular.

I especially like the longer emphasis on the pre-clinical stuff. For those of us writing the USMLE-1, the fact that we have our pre-clinical courses spred out over 3 years (we do pathology during the 1st clinical year) seems to help. People write the USMLE-1 during the summer after their 3rd year. With more emphasis on the pre-clinical stuff and the fact that we have almost twice as long to study for it (end of summer after 3rd year instead of right after 2nd year in American med schools) seems to help. All the Canadians I talked to who wrote it the last two years from my school were in the 97-99 range! I know that's hardly a representitive sample but it's good to hear none the less.

Don't know what the scores were for people in their final year last year but from what I've heard, everyone who wanted to matched. There were a couple of people (from NA) who didn't write the USMLE's and were hoping to get a job in Ireland and didn't. But as long as you plan ahead here and cover all your bases you should be able to get the residency you want.

I am an American final medical year student at RCSI.

For those of you who are unaware, there is indeed growing tension because of the increasing cost of tuition at RCSI. Much of this is justified. Unfortunately, what started (a while back, and not on this website) as an interesting analysis of the value of an RCSI education has become a purile, bitter and indeed ignorant discussion that has little to offer those considering RCSI as an option.

A couple of things I have noted:
There are indeed Americans who come to RCSI and hate it. Many of these are from affluent backgrounds where they are used to a certain amount of social and professional recognition as a birthright. When they migrate to Ireland they are no longer a part of the ruling majority. The lack of familiarity and the loss of this recognition makes them unhappy. If they can, they switch out (and should). I should add that I come from what would be considered an affluent white background, but have experienced none of these feelings. If you are open-minded, and able to find happiness in a variety of environments, not just one, you'll probably like it here.

So in short here are, as I see them, the plusses and minuses of attending RCSI as an American:

Plusses:
1) Two academic years of anatomy, one being neuroanatomy, the other gross. American medical student average about three months of this important course.
2) Three years of clinical training.
3) The ability to diagnose clinically, regardless of the availability technology. This is probably the most attractive thing about studying in Europe. Ask an American student to differentiate between extradural and subarachnoid bleed, and he'll tell you to use an MRI. Ask a European medical student the same question, and he'll ask you about the patient. Both should arrive at the same answer. The European trained medical student can 'do it without a calculator'. Examples like this are common. Do not underestimate the importance of this. Ask any trained physician, regardless of specialty.
4) Proximity to Europe. At times, because of the elongated course, you will have time to travel. Take a textbook to Belgium for under a hundred euros round-trip. Visit a hospital in Tunisia or Poland (have done all of these). Achieve some perspective about your professional life.
5) Matching in the US, if you want it, is not a problem. This has been proven time and again. Two last year matched at the Mayo clinic, and people have gone to Columbia, Urology at the Cleveland Clinic, and straight into plastic surgery. Even my Norwegian wife matched in a major teaching university for general surgery. Almost everyone else got their first choice. These are the facts.

Minuses:
1) It's getting pretty expensive (especially as the dollar gets weaker). This goes for both living expenses and tuition. I'm not sure if this will change. I don't anticipate problems paying my loans back.
2) At times the school can be conservative, and slow to evolve. Student opinion can, at times, be undervalued when compared with the US. Even so, evolution is taking place.
3) Overcrowding on the wards and in facilities may become an issue (some think it already is) if the school continues to increase the class size without expanding student facilities.

These are just a few from both sides. In all I have enjoyed my time here, and if I had to choose again (between med schools in Houston, Philly and Dublin) I'd make the same exact choice. I feel that the education I received is superior. Both of my parents are specialists - one trained in the states and one in Europe - and they agree.

 

[NIQ]

I'm a third year medical student at RCSI (year 4/6), and so far my experience here has been very average. Nothing horrible but nothing to write home about. My first complaint is the RCSI fees. They're outrageous for what you are getting, you aren't treated like an individual and are more like a flock of sheep; a flock of sheep bringing in a lot of money for RCSI so they can buy more buildings and further expand their empire.

The bright side is that its probably one of the best educations you will recieve in your pre-clinical years. All 5 of the undergrad subjects are taught very slowly and if you are responsible you should have plenty of time to learn everything. Anatomy, pharmacology, behavioral science, microbiology and path departments are all fantastic. The departments I didn't mention....well I'll just leave it at that

I'm an American and I'll leave a little insight on what I know about matching in the US for residency. From what I know from friends your step 1 and step 2 board scores mean the most when trying to match. Since RCSI is a foreign school your grades aren't looked at as much since it uses a much different system from the US (50-75 scale). When comparing 2 students that are neck and neck in a match spot the first preference is obviously going to go to the American student.

That said to match in the competitive programs you really have to show your interviewer that you ARE better than the others applying. This means have better above average boards scores for a specific speciality, doing more research than what is normally had, and doing clinical electives in the most competitive of places (RCSI is affiliated with Columbia, Mayo, and Johns Hopkins for these spots)

Right now I've completed 1 research elective in Harvard and haven't done anything else since I am writing step 1 in august. If people want more info about anything drop me a line in my PM box. I will answer your Q's to the best of my knowledge and try my best not to be biased in my answer. Take care and hope you make the right decision

Oh and pbateman you wouldn't mind asking your coke dealer to hook up a lowly FMG with some dope would you?

 

[PBateman]

Dmonroe. I read your post with great interest. In fact, way more interest than a US residency program director will ever devote to your application.

My first question is: What is the view like from your moral high ground?

Your lame attempt to defend the RCSI was desperate and clumsy. Yes desperate and clumsy - just like the first time I watched Louis Carruthers have sex with my maid.

You say that if you had a choice to do it all over again, you would still choose to attend the RCSI. My ass! (which is waxed & toned by the way!) People attend RCSI for many reasons, but it is never their first choice. You are likely there because no other medical school in the USA (USA#1) would accept an applicant who reads at a grade 3 level. Lets talk board scores. I guarantee that you could square your board score and you still couldn't touch me!

Do you think RCSI grads have a monopoly on international travel & medical experiences. You visited a hospital in Tunisia and Poland. At least you got a chance to get away from Ireland and see what real medicine is like. However, that plane ticket to Poland cost you whatever the price was plus €35,000. Are you ****ed? With that kind of money, Louis Carruthers and I could fly to Poland first class, spit roast your mother in the house where the Pope was born, visit a hospital to laugh at the hapless Poles and still have fistfulls of money left over to go on an old fashioned Warsaw coke bender!
Yale grads like me have great international health experiences. One time, Louis Carruthers and I picked up 2 Peurto Rican hookers (because the Radcliffe girls weren't putting out - something about the urinal cake and butter knife...). We took them back to a suite at the Waldorf Astoria, but one of them overdosed on cheap glue. We called Louis' driver and he took them to hospital. That was a great international health experience - the hookers were Peurto Ricans, Louis' chauffeur was Mexican and the urethritis I had was doxycycline resistant!

Dmonroe, it sounds like the curriculum at the RCSI is really "progressive". You are right, if we have a patient with a suspected cranial bleed at Columbia Presbyterian, we get an MRI, because this is 2005 (I think... did a lot of blow on the weekend and things are confusing as I come down). MRI is the gold standard and we aim to treat with certainty. Of course we ask about the patient - is your sister hot and do you have insurance? The RCSI methodology of history taking, clinical exam and phrenology sounds great! What do you do when you reach a diagnosis - trephination to let the demons out, exorcisim or application of the leaches?!? Your €35,000 is being put to good use, butt boy!

I stand corrected. In a previous email, I said there are no Irish grads working at Columbia Presbyterian. In fact there is an RCSI grad who is employed to mop the floors in the cafeteria!!!

Lets not let all this stuff come between us. Next time you are in New York, you are welcome to visit the Yale club... we are always looking for a new shoe shine boy!

Yours sincerely in all manner of superiority,
Patrick Bateman Jr.

 

[Lex81]

Dmonroe. I read your post with great interest. In fact, way more interest than a US residency program director will ever devote to your application.

My first question is: What is the view like from your moral high ground?

Your lame attempt to defend the RCSI was desperate and clumsy. Yes desperate and clumsy - just like the first time I watched Louis Carruthers have sex with my maid.

You say that if you had a choice to do it all over again, you would still choose to attend the RCSI. My ass! (which is waxed & toned by the way!) People attend RCSI for many reasons, but it is never their first choice. You are likely there because no other medical school in the USA (USA#1) would accept an applicant who reads at a grade 3 level. Lets talk board scores. I guarantee that you could square your board score and you still couldn't touch me!

Do you think RCSI grads have a monopoly on international travel & medical experiences. You visited a hospital in Tunisia and Poland. At least you got a chance to get away from Ireland and see what real medicine is like. However, that plane ticket to Poland cost you whatever the price was plus €35,000. Are you ****ed? With that kind of money, Louis Carruthers and I could fly to Poland first class, spit roast your mother in the house where the Pope was born, visit a hospital to laugh at the hapless Poles and still have fistfulls of money left over to go on an old fashioned Warsaw coke bender!
Yale grads like me have great international health experiences. One time, Louis Carruthers and I picked up 2 Peurto Rican hookers (because the Radcliffe girls weren't putting out - something about the urinal cake and butter knife...). We took them back to a suite at the Waldorf Astoria, but one of them overdosed on cheap glue. We called Louis' driver and he took them to hospital. That was a great international health experience - the hookers were Peurto Ricans, Louis' chauffeur was Mexican and the urethritis I had was doxycycline resistant!

Dmonroe, it sounds like the curriculum at the RCSI is really "progressive". You are right, if we have a patient with a suspected cranial bleed at Columbia Presbyterian, we get an MRI, because this is 2005 (I think... did a lot of blow on the weekend and things are confusing as I come down). MRI is the gold standard and we aim to treat with certainty. Of course we ask about the patient - is your sister hot and do you have insurance? The RCSI methodology of history taking, clinical exam and phrenology sounds great! What do you do when you reach a diagnosis - trephination to let the demons out, exorcisim or application of the leaches?!? Your €35,000 is being put to good use, butt boy!

I stand corrected. In a previous email, I said there are no Irish grads working at Columbia Presbyterian. In fact there is an RCSI grad who is employed to mop the floors in the cafeteria!!!

Lets not let all this stuff come between us. Next time you are in New York, you are welcome to visit the Yale club... we are always looking for a new shoe shine boy!

Yours sincerely in all manner of superiority,
Patrick Bateman Jr.

Thats some funny **** dude, haha. But seriously, who the hell takes all this time to write paragraphs and paragraphs just to dis a school? Now I gotta come to the defense of RCSI, this nut case Bateman must be on the rock! If this cat is for real, which I doubt, it seems like he's got some sorta personal vendetta, and he needs to chill the f$@# out, or lay off the yayo. Look mate, I've been accepted to Tulane, Albany, and U. of MICHIGAN medical schools, but I'm heading to RCSI because of the cultural and life experience it offers. You all can piss and moan about the money, but we're going to be doctors in the end and it will all be paid off PERIOD. Yeah, it might take a little bit longer, but you simply can't put a price on the experience of living abroad for an extended time, its absolutely life enriching. I should know, I've lived all over the world throughout my life.

I think most people go to RCSI because they are adventurers, explorers at heart... at least thats what I am. To have an opportunity to study medicine while enriching yourself in a cultural and worldly adventure is an opportunity I bet few would pass up. This dude bateman seems like one of those loser "intellectuals" (nerds) from an ivy school that tries to rectify their lack of passion (yes thats the correct word) through bashing a cherished institution from a safe vantage, ie an internet forum. Please grow up man. Its cool if you want to share your opinion, but to come off like some dip**** is just dick. Im stoked to head to Dublin in the fall, I'll see you all there! ciao
-Ben

 

[VWard]

Thats some funny **** dude, haha. But seriously, who the hell takes all this time to write paragraphs and paragraphs just to dis a school? Now I gotta come to the defense of RCSI, this nut case Bateman must be on the rock! If this cat is for real, which I doubt, it seems like he's got some sorta personal vendetta, and he needs to chill the f$@# out, or lay off the yayo. Look mate, I've been accepted to Tulane, Albany, and U. of MICHIGAN medical schools, but I'm heading to RCSI because of the cultural and life experience it offers. You all can piss and moan about the money, but we're going to be doctors in the end and it will all be paid off PERIOD. Yeah, it might take a little bit longer, but you simply can't put a price on the experience of living abroad for an extended time, its absolutely life enriching. I should know, I've lived all over the world throughout my life.

I think most people go to RCSI because they are adventurers, explorers at heart... at least thats what I am. To have an opportunity to study medicine while enriching yourself in a cultural and worldly adventure is an opportunity I bet few would pass up. This dude bateman seems like one of those loser "intellectuals" (nerds) from an ivy school that tries to rectify their lack of passion (yes thats the correct word) through bashing a cherished institution from a safe vantage, ie an internet forum. Please grow up man. Its cool if you want to share your opinion, but to come off like some dip**** is just dick. Im stoked to head to Dublin in the fall, I'll see you all there! ciao
-Ben

'Enriching yourself in a cultural and worldly adventure', blah, blah, blah...what a cliché! Your delusions will end soon enough.

And if you turned down an offer form the medical school at University of Michigan, you, obviously, haven't done your research. Nice move smart guy.

 

[PBateman]

Well done Lex81. Your "adventure" will be one of sorrow and disappointment. If you are going to RCSI, you will experience misadventure, racism, getting ripped off, taking it in the rear and having doors slammed in your face.

Also, lets be clear. I went to Yale. I am a doctor. You will attend a second class foreign medical school. You will be an IMG.

ta ta,
Patrick Bateman Jr.

Thats some funny **** dude, haha. But seriously, who the hell takes all this time to write paragraphs and paragraphs just to dis a school? Now I gotta come to the defense of RCSI, this nut case Bateman must be on the rock! If this cat is for real, which I doubt, it seems like he's got some sorta personal vendetta, and he needs to chill the f$@# out, or lay off the yayo. Look mate, I've been accepted to Tulane, Albany, and U. of MICHIGAN medical schools, but I'm heading to RCSI because of the cultural and life experience it offers. You all can piss and moan about the money, but we're going to be doctors in the end and it will all be paid off PERIOD. Yeah, it might take a little bit longer, but you simply can't put a price on the experience of living abroad for an extended time, its absolutely life enriching. I should know, I've lived all over the world throughout my life.

I think most people go to RCSI because they are adventurers, explorers at heart... at least thats what I am. To have an opportunity to study medicine while enriching yourself in a cultural and worldly adventure is an opportunity I bet few would pass up. This dude bateman seems like one of those loser "intellectuals" (nerds) from an ivy school that tries to rectify their lack of passion (yes thats the correct word) through bashing a cherished institution from a safe vantage, ie an internet forum. Please grow up man. Its cool if you want to share your opinion, but to come off like some dip**** is just dick. Im stoked to head to Dublin in the fall, I'll see you all there! ciao
-Ben

 

[Rico]

Everyone knows even ABP that RCSI is rip off.

 

[leorl]

Let's not deter those who have already chosen to go to RCSI. Yes, it is expensive and maybe/may not be unjustifiably so, but it is still a fine institution that provides a good education. Those who attend there or any Irish university should be encouraged in their life and studies, and be allowed to make their own experiences. Your experience (or even worse, lack of knowledge regarding the school and life in Ireland) does not mean fellow students or future students will experience the same things. In every class, there is going to be someone who might not have the best time, but in the same class there will be someone for whom this decision was perfect one for him.

P Batemen, this is a public warning. Please tone down your posts. You may think you're being funny, but we are trying to conduct a helpful forum where correct information is propagated and provide an encouraging atmosphere.

 

[Rico]

A friend of mine in RCSI said everyone in Dublin knows that RCSI is a place for rich international students from U.S, Bahrain, and Malaysia.

 

[NIQ]

A friend of mine in RCSI said everyone in Dublin knows that RCSI is a place for rich international students from U.S, Bahrain, and Malaysia.

I would say hardly rich. Most of the Americans I know are on loan, the UAE students get sponsored by their government to go there, and Malaysian fees are half the normal fee.

 

[leorl]

On the other hand, I do know of several rather wealthy students at RCSI. Sound, but a little bit spoiled. However, I don't really know what this has to add to the conversation. RCSI is full of hard-working students same as everywhere else.

 

[r3boot]

4th year RCSI. I agree with dmonroe on many of the points he mentioned.

With the whole match thing details are sketchy simply because alot of people aren't from/ don't go back to the US so its hard to fgiure out how many people who applied for/to the match did infact get matched. From what I hear being at RCSI shouldn't be that big a hinderance.

Generally speaking its a nice place, and the campus where you will spend the first 2 years is at the city centre. Mercer court is ok for the first year but I could'nt stand it for longer .... far too cramped.

Oh and Rico there are only 10 Bahraini students at RCSI at the moment so I wouldn't say that they form the majority of the populace in any sense of the word.


And I'm sure PBateman is going to rip my head off in 10 minutes. (...4 year olds...)

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Was in RCSI last Saturday for the case studies competition.

Wow, it's a classy looking college. Maybe we were in the section they used for visitors but I've never seen such expensive surroundings.

All the students and staff were extremely friendly as well, greeting us as soon as we opened the door. The wine reception afterwards was most welcome as well (I vaguely remember telling some pathologist how we were all winners in the end. Boy, was I hammered!)

O yea, Trinity won the competition!
(I'm from UCC so am not biased)

 

[leorl]

Really?! Do you know who was on the team? I would have thought it would have been publicized a bit more. I think I remember gettin a general email asking people who wanted to be on the team, but no email on results and specifics.

 

[r3boot]

trinity won in the end .

good case though .....

team was alos good.

 

[Jammer]

Was in RCSI last Saturday for the case studies competition.

Wow, it's a classy looking college. Maybe we were in the section they used for visitors but I've never seen such expensive surroundings.

All the students and staff were extremely friendly as well, greeting us as soon as we opened the door. The wine reception afterwards was most welcome as well (I vaguely remember telling some pathologist how we were all winners in the end. Boy, was I hammered!)

O yea, Trinity won the competition!
(I'm from UCC so am not biased)

Classy looking college? Compared to what, the methadone clinic on Pearse Street? Just remember, RCSI is great at putting up the facade: the plasma announcement screen stares you right in the face when you walk in, flat screen Mac on the desk in the lobby, fancy receptions filled with faculty wearing Luis Copeland suits and fake smiles, sipping their bitter wine. However, when it comes to delivering the medical education product to the students that have purchased it, they fall far short of the standard and quality they claim to provide. They always draw comparisions to and boast their ties with U.S. medical schools such as Harvard, the Mayo Clinic, and Johns Hopkins. Tell me, how many RCSI graduates have matched in a residency program at Harvard in the past 10 years? And satisfaction??? Talk to a medical student at Harvard or Johns Hopkins and you would be hard pressed to find one that is disappointed by their experience in medical school; those medical schools strive to maintain the highest standards of excellence, they aim to set the bar. Talk to a student at RCSI and see what they have to say about their experience, how many times they have been disappointed with the overall lack of organization, the lack of respect shown for the students. That should tell you something about what RCSI is really like.

By the way, where is Bateman? It seems like he's the only one that is actually being critical on this string.

 

[r3boot]

Why are you comparing RCSI to harvard?

And whats wrong with somebody being pleasently surpirsed by the surroundings.

I agree that the overall product at the end of the day is hit and miss. But thats true accross the board in ireland simply because you get as much as you put into the work.

Alot of the people who have been at rcsi and complain about the teaching are the ones who are used to being spoon fed and having everything going as THEY planned and have no consideratino for anything else that is going on (this is espacially true in the clincal years).

Also you have to bear in mind that alot (over 70%) of people in RCSI end up staying in ireland for at least a year post grad. Alot don't even go to the US afterwards so "who has matched??" and "who is in residency program X ?" is not a very objective measure of how good the teaching is.

"By the way, where is Bateman? It seems like he's the only one that is actually being critical on this string."

Haven't heard anyone say anything about harvard/ hopkins lately ?!?!?! (granted they are some of the best schools but there are always faults)

 

[Rico]

r3boot,

thanks for updating my posting..

Rico

 

[NIQ]

O yea, Trinity won the competition!
(I'm from UCC so am not biased)

Good to hear, we won it last year

 

[NIQ]

Classy looking college? Compared to what, the methadone clinic on Pearse Street? Just remember, RCSI is great at putting up the facade: the plasma announcement screen stares you right in the face when you walk in, flat screen Mac on the desk in the lobby, fancy receptions filled with faculty wearing Luis Copeland suits and fake smiles, sipping their bitter wine. However, when it comes to delivering the medical education product to the students that have purchased it, they fall far short of the standard and quality they claim to provide. They always draw comparisions to and boast their ties with U.S. medical schools such as Harvard, the Mayo Clinic, and Johns Hopkins. Tell me, how many RCSI graduates have matched in a residency program at Harvard in the past 10 years? And satisfaction??? Talk to a medical student at Harvard or Johns Hopkins and you would be hard pressed to find one that is disappointed by their experience in medical school; those medical schools strive to maintain the highest standards of excellence, they aim to set the bar. Talk to a student at RCSI and see what they have to say about their experience, how many times they have been disappointed with the overall lack of organization, the lack of respect shown for the students. That should tell you something about what RCSI is really like.

By the way, where is Bateman? It seems like he's the only one that is actually being critical on this string.

How about 4 internal medicine matches in Mayo last year? As for Hopkins they do not accept FMG applicants period.

 

[Jammer]

Alot of the people who have been at rcsi and complain about the teaching are the ones who are used to being spoon fed and having everything going as THEY planned and have no consideratino for anything else that is going on (this is espacially true in the clincal years).

The complaints are well justified. Teaching at the hospitals is poor, very poor. More scheduled lectures and tutorials have been cancelled than have been conducted. And when there are tutorials, there are 50-60 students crammed into a small room or 15 students huddled around a patient's bed. All the while the tutors emphasize 'respecting the patient'; 50 students in a row palpating a spleen, is that respect?

The overall lack of management and organization is appauling. Dates for terms and tests are switched last minute. Major changes are made to the curriculum with no input from students and no reasons offered. The College always brags about how well your clinical skills (i.e., history and physical examination) are. News flash: at the beginning of this term, 2nd medical year students show up to Beaumont expecting to start their clinical attachments as has always been, instead, they're told that they will not be allowed to see patients until the end of their 3rd medical year. For them, the next year will be filled with 'pretend' histories and physical exams on other students in their class, and a load of other 'busy work'. One less year of clinical training; in essence, they're now paying for a glorified 3 year Bachelor's Degree in Human Health Sciences. While the rest of medical schools are progressing to early patient contact, RCSI elects to delay patient contact; may as well start offering a medical degree by correspondance. And when confronted with these points, weak excuses are all that you get. Zero accountability! Not very professional and definitely not providing the right example to young professionals who will be require to demonstrate the highest level of responsibility and accountability during their careers.

And as for the comment that people who complain are the ones that are used to being spoon fed with no consideration for anything else that is going on, I guess what you mean by this is that the majority of students at RCSI are used to being spoon fed and are inconsiderate? Because I've heard more people offer their complaints and criticisms than offer any praise for the the delivery of medical education by the RCSI. It's all a matter of being critical. At top medical schools the students complain, that is true, however, they complain about the margins, how things might have fallen short. At RCSI, students complain about how things just don't happen. And that's the difference; a very significant difference.

 

[Jammer]

How about 4 internal medicine matches in Mayo last year? As for Hopkins they do not accept FMG applicants period.

How about who? Are your facts anecdotal? Or even worse, are you getting your facts from the residency list that RCSI provides to prospective applicants? The list that claims that RCSI graduates have a 98% match rate to US residencies. I'll tell you this, that list is inaccurate, false advertizing, and outright lies! Only including people that applied to the US match this year, the first rank match rate is something more like 50-60%. And the overall match rate was only about 80-85%. And that's not even counting people who have elected to stay for at least an intern year in Ireland,. Some not by choice.

Do some research, dig a little deeper and see what you really find. Ask some people that matched if they think that RCSI has been supportive of their endeavors over their years in medical school. Yet RCSI basks in trumpetting around their graduates that match in the US, as if RCSI had some integral role in the result.

 

[Kaptain Krunch]

Really?! Do you know who was on the team? I would have thought it would have been publicized a bit more. I think I remember gettin a general email asking people who wanted to be on the team, but no email on results and specifics.

I think there was a girl called Geraldine who was blonde but my memory is fairly hazy. Fairly difficult case though, Trinity were the only ones who got it although they were presenting first so no one got to see them perform.

Everyone else came up with the dignosis of small cell carcinoma (made some sense when there was an ectopic source of ACTH and a small nodule was found on chest CT). Best moment was when Queen's University defined an alcoholic as anyone who drinks over 21 units of alcohol a week. That made their whole team alcoholics.

Boy, some people seem to really dislike RCSI!

By the way, in Cork next year will have more intern places than medical students so it might be worth applying down here for a place. You won't get any of the major hospital (They'll go to UCC students no matter what their results) but if you're desperate....

 

[NIQ]

How about who? Are your facts anecdotal? Or even worse, are you getting your facts from the residency list that RCSI provides to prospective applicants? The list that claims that RCSI graduates have a 98% match rate to US residencies. I'll tell you this, that list is inaccurate, false advertizing, and outright lies! Only including people that applied to the US match this year, the first rank match rate is something more like 50-60%. And the overall match rate was only about 80-85%. And that's not even counting people who have elected to stay for at least an intern year in Ireland,. Some not by choice.

Do some research, dig a little deeper and see what you really find. Ask some people that matched if they think that RCSI has been supportive of their endeavors over their years in medical school. Yet RCSI basks in trumpetting around their graduates that match in the US, as if RCSI had some integral role in the result.

You might have ignored a previous post where I said I'm a fourth year at RCSI. I gaurantee that this is accurate information from the graduating class, and I personally know 2 of the people that accepted it.

I will agree with you that RCSI does very little for in the actual match process. Most of it is independant work, and they'll just go as far as giving you the righ references, and adding their "seal of approval". Suffice to say I know many people that are 90+ in both step 1 and 2 and that matched in very good programs.

I did see that you mentioned that this years third year class is getting screwed with clinical experience, and this is true. Most of the people in their year aren't too happy about this and I sure wouldn't be if that happened to me. Hospital crowding is a major problem in Beaumont. Fortunatly for my third year I was in James Connely where it was only 3 people on a team, and interns went out their way to help us out (yes I know I was the minority)

 

[Jammer]

You might have ignored a previous post where I said I'm a fourth year at RCSI. I gaurantee that this is accurate information from the graduating class, and I personally know 2 of the people that accepted it.

I will agree with you that RCSI does very little for in the actual match process. Most of it is independant work, and they'll just go as far as giving you the righ references, and adding their "seal of approval". Suffice to say I know many people that are 90+ in both step 1 and 2 and that matched in very good programs.

I did see that you mentioned that this years third year class is getting screwed with clinical experience, and this is true. Most of the people in their year aren't too happy about this and I sure wouldn't be if that happened to me. Hospital crowding is a major problem in Beaumont. Fortunatly for my third year I was in James Connely where it was only 3 people on a team, and interns went out their way to help us out (yes I know I was the minority)

I have not ignored the fact that you are a 4th year medical student at RCSI, but you have obviously ignored my advice that you should 'Do some research, dig a little deeper and see what you really find'. And you 'guarantee' that this information is correct? Why, because you heard it from 'the graduating class'??? Your information is anecdotal, weak and worthless. Why don't you provide some facts instead?

Either way, you are missing the bigger picture. This is about a 'medical school' that does not prioritize 'medical education' and the wellfare of its students, instead RCSI prioritizes fund raising for its business ventures. RCSI neglects the 'best intrests' of its medical students. Actually, the only time that RCSI can be relied upon to be efficient when dealing with its students is when tuition invoices are mailed out. And that, that is a fact.

 

[kuralia]

You should not insult a person who is trying to explain the value of education by differences.I think his article is very attractive and you just jellish because you could not get into RCSI.And you an't no Yale graduate,maybe hoosier university

Dmonroe. I read your post with great interest. In fact, way more interest than a US residency program director will ever devote to your application.

My first question is: What is the view like from your moral high ground?

Your lame attempt to defend the RCSI was desperate and clumsy. Yes desperate and clumsy - just like the first time I watched Louis Carruthers have sex with my maid.

You say that if you had a choice to do it all over again, you would still choose to attend the RCSI. My ass! (which is waxed & toned by the way!) People attend RCSI for many reasons, but it is never their first choice. You are likely there because no other medical school in the USA (USA#1) would accept an applicant who reads at a grade 3 level. Lets talk board scores. I guarantee that you could square your board score and you still couldn't touch me!

Do you think RCSI grads have a monopoly on international travel & medical experiences. You visited a hospital in Tunisia and Poland. At least you got a chance to get away from Ireland and see what real medicine is like. However, that plane ticket to Poland cost you whatever the price was plus €35,000. Are you ****ed? With that kind of money, Louis Carruthers and I could fly to Poland first class, spit roast your mother in the house where the Pope was born, visit a hospital to laugh at the hapless Poles and still have fistfulls of money left over to go on an old fashioned Warsaw coke bender!
Yale grads like me have great international health experiences. One time, Louis Carruthers and I picked up 2 Peurto Rican hookers (because the Radcliffe girls weren't putting out - something about the urinal cake and butter knife...). We took them back to a suite at the Waldorf Astoria, but one of them overdosed on cheap glue. We called Louis' driver and he took them to hospital. That was a great international health experience - the hookers were Peurto Ricans, Louis' chauffeur was Mexican and the urethritis I had was doxycycline resistant!

Dmonroe, it sounds like the curriculum at the RCSI is really "progressive". You are right, if we have a patient with a suspected cranial bleed at Columbia Presbyterian, we get an MRI, because this is 2005 (I think... did a lot of blow on the weekend and things are confusing as I come down). MRI is the gold standard and we aim to treat with certainty. Of course we ask about the patient - is your sister hot and do you have insurance? The RCSI methodology of history taking, clinical exam and phrenology sounds great! What do you do when you reach a diagnosis - trephination to let the demons out, exorcisim or application of the leaches?!? Your €35,000 is being put to good use, butt boy!

I stand corrected. In a previous email, I said there are no Irish grads working at Columbia Presbyterian. In fact there is an RCSI grad who is employed to mop the floors in the cafeteria!!!

Lets not let all this stuff come between us. Next time you are in New York, you are welcome to visit the Yale club... we are always looking for a new shoe shine boy!

Yours sincerely in all manner of superiority,
Patrick Bateman Jr.

 

[Ratan1982]

As offensive as Bateman may be. I have to admit, he's really funny

 

[PBateman]

You should not insult a person who is trying to explain the value of education by differences.I think his article is very attractive and you just jellish because you could not get into RCSI.And you an't no Yale graduate,maybe hoosier university

Nice one kid! You tried to diss me, but you couldn't quite get the words out. I assume by your broken english, mis-spelled words and sentence fragments that you are studying "medicine" (and I use the term lightly) in Ireland.

What the **** does "jellish" mean? You couldn't respond to my iron clad arguements with any sort of reason, so you have resorted to inventing a pidgin language.

Congratulations! You have spent €35,000 per year for a worthless degree and you can neither read nor write. I bet you feel real good about your withered old mother whoring herself out to pay for your miseducation.

yours in all manner of superiority,
Patrick Bateman Jr.

 

[Choda]

PBateman,

Props dude, very funny guy...I actually go to RCSI and I wouldn't be able to put things as you did. Despite what others say, you are right about a lot of things. RCSI is definately a second-class institution, which attempts to market itself as a world-class medical school...but yet...the reality is far from that. I also agree with Jammer: RCSI is out to get your money, and they have very little respect, and little patience for students like us who would like to address the shortcomings of this school to make this a better place.

PBateman, I must agree with you, there are LOTS of people in our class who can neither read, nor write english... How a lot of people end up in this school? sure beats the hell out of me. The level of maturity at school absolutely floors me. My class is made up for mostly malaysians and arabs who can barely grasp the english language: How in Zeus' butthole do you expect to take a history on an english-speaking patient when you yourself can only speak rudimentary english? (I only mention this because several kids in my abortion of a communication skills class can't seem to even perform a simple consultation). My three year old cousin could take a history better than some of these international students. Now don't get me started on this malaysian kid who tried to auscultate by putting her stethoscope OVER her hijab...and was subsequently wondering why she couldn't hear a thing...

To incoming kids (yes, i say kids because you're most likely an immature brat like all the other kids in my class): BEWARE OF THE LACK OF COMMON SENSE THAT IS PERVASIVE AT THIS SCHOOL. Watch out for the vice-dean of medicine. She is an absolute space-cadet and there is no other administrator who i abhor more than her. Trying to talk to her, get a reference letter from her, trying to convey your concerns to her is like trying to herd a flock of menstruating sheep through your pristine white living room without getting it all dirty. Enjoy her lectures, btw!
Beware of the network/IT systems administrator, who's a complete network tyrant. RCSI runs the most ridiculous network firewall that filters out porn etc. but also filters out a lot of other websites that have nothing to do with anything perverse. Their email filters flag messages which contain the words "penis" and "vagina" which is completely ludicrous considering this is a "medical skule".
The dean of medicine is the worst lecturer at the college: you'll be getting him in first med a couple times. He sounds like he just doesn't give a **** and sounds like he's about to fall asleep at the podium.
Watch out for the fact that you're going to have lectures and tutorials cancelled, postponed, rescheduled with very little warning. Communication skills and case-based tutorials are a complete joke.
The gym sucks.
The college has tons of money but is too stingy to invest money in rebuilding the college to modern standards.

If anyone else wants to know what wrong with this college... just message me and i'll tell you.

Do i feel i'm getting my 35,000 euro worth at this school? F*ck no. But, it sure beats being a stable-boy at PBateman's ranch in the hamptons. Last time i was there his mom wanted me to lube up their horse's penis because the bi-weekly three-way with Jr. and Sr. just wasn't satisfying enough.



yours,
choda

Nice one kid! You tried to diss me, but you couldn't quite get the words out. I assume by your broken english, mis-spelled words and sentence fragments that you are studying "medicine" (and I use the term lightly) in Ireland.

What the **** does "jellish" mean? You couldn't respond to my iron clad arguements with any sort of reason, so you have resorted to inventing a pidgin language.

Congratulations! You have spent €35,000 per year for a worthless degree and you can neither read nor write. I bet you feel real good about your withered old mother whoring herself out to pay for your miseducation.

yours in all manner of superiority,
Patrick Bateman Jr.

 

[Choda]

oh, one more thing....

Are any of you girls who accepted RCSI, hot?

We need more hot girls out here. I'm sick and tired of hooking up with burly girls who have more facial hair than i do. (Hirsutism is a major problem here in ireland)

 

[Choda]

One last thing i should mention....


The 32 crew hosts the best house parties... keep an eye out for the invites!