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I have a suspicious feeling Icewomen (fitting name) wants to become a doctor so she can feel like she's superior to everyone else.
Originally posted by JKDMed
This whole "holsitic" ideaology isn't pure and utter crap. The difference is that an MD will more than likely see a person suffering from X condition, then prescribe medications to treat the symptoms.
A DO would inquire of the person other potential causes of condition X other than pathology. Working conditions, living conditions, etc. may all be factors contributing to the person's presentation of condition X. Eliminate the contributing factor and the person doesn't need to spend money every month refilling his prescription.
I have never seen or heard of an MD work like this, but have heard many stories of DO's doing this.
Originally posted by Icewoman
Are you still in college "Shinken"? Anyways, have you compared this experience with that MD with one with a DO?
Are you still in college "Shinken"? Anyways, have you compared this experience with that MD with one with a DO?
Originally posted by Icewoman
Haha... I'm usually quite a civil person... I just had fun starting up this post
Anyways, you're right that DO's and MD's are probably equivalent when they reach the community-setting. But if they are equivalent in that respect, why not just choose MD so that you don't have the glass ceiling to worry about?
I believe that being a good, compassionate doctor is really a personal thing. If your personality blows, then you'll be a crappy doctor regardless of whether you're DO or MD.
And let's not forget about academic medicine... a world truly dominated by MD's.
Originally posted by Icewoman
True anything is possible... but do you really want to wait around for DO's to "progress" when you could just become a MD?
Originally posted by Icewoman
True anything is possible... but do you really want to wait around for DO's to "progress" when you could just become a MD?
I'm curious as to why it is such a big mistake. I will probably choose DO over MD for location reasons as well.Originally posted by Lexmark
I had 1 MD offer out of state and 1 DO offer in-state. Because my wife had a good job and my kids were in good schools I opted to take the DO offer.
A Big Big mistake which I now regret. This is not something that I share with my classmates, but I do know of 1 other guy in my class who went DO and not MD - also based on location - he also regrets his decision.
Originally posted by Lexmark
>>If you regret becoming a DO because you don't get the same >>recognition as an MD here and abroad that's your problem, not >>the profession's.
My "regret" stems from the high level of disinformation provided by DO schools, the AOA, and the osteopathic profession in general. If people had been more honest with me when I was making my decision perhaps I would have made a different choice - and perhaps not. But, at least my choice would have been a more informed one.
Originally posted by Shinken
STOP blaming other people for your own actions!
If you were misinformed and ignorant of the field you were entering it's your own fault. If you agreed to spend many years of your life working hard and accruing huge debt because of a two-page brochure from the AOA it's your own fault.
You mean you didn't talk to DO's about osteopathic medicine? To MD's? To current DO students (not the ones that have lunch with you when you interview but to current students that have nothing to gain from lying to you)? To residency program directors? If you went to DO school without knowing you had to learn craniosacral manipulation then it's not the AOA propaganda it's you that's at fault.
It is safe to say that if a DO sticks to primary care then he/she may not have that big of problems when trying to get into a residency. You even stated this in your previous post.Originally posted by Lexmark
You seem to accept that DO?s are discriminated against which goes to my original point ? if given the choice between DO and MD why would you go DO? Why make things potentially more difficult for yourself? If you have an MD you don?t have to worry ?will they accept my MD??
You seem to accept that DO?s are discriminated against which goes to my original point ? if given the choice between DO and MD why would you go DO? Why make things potentially more difficult for yourself? If you have an MD you don?t have to worry ?will they accept my MD??
And please tell me exactly when DO students are taught this holistic approach? This is simply down to the individual, and most practicing physicians don?t have the luxury of spending time with their patients to discuss their DM or HTN that is being dealt with by their PCP
Originally posted by NebelDO
...I dont doubt that its harder for us be neurosurgeons or CT surgeons..sure its hard. i know i want to be ethier a gen, uro, trauma or transplant surgeon Thats my goal.
What am i going to do? im gonna do well on my boards, im going to do well in my rotations, im gonna read and study like everyone else that has these same goals. IT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE I SAY SO!!
im proud that im going to be a DO...
Why does everyone tell me to go MD? IM TIRED OF IT. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....Originally posted by Deuce 007 MD
Do yourself a favor slick listen to those already in DO school, and go MD. Med school is hard enough as it is you don't need no psuedo sci class (OMM) to add on to that.
Originally posted by Slickness
Why does everyone tell me to go MD? IM TIRED OF IT. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....
If I get into UCLA, USC, UCI, or Loma Linda then I'll go MD.
I wasn't too impressed with Philly.Originally posted by unk_fxn
Why not Temple?
Originally posted by Deuce 007 MD
Do yourself a favor slick listen to those already in DO school, and go MD. Med school is hard enough as it is you don't need no psuedo sci class (OMM) to add on to that.
Originally posted by sophiejane
So...I guess I must be "psuedo" pain-free after one OMM adjustment that "pseudo" fixed a very painful neck problem that my MD could only give me muscle relaxers and celebrex for....
And my mom must be "pseudo" able to walk without pain after OMM tx for a bad hip that she has had for years. Her MD offered her drugs or more surgery.
I think its great to have another tool for my black bag. If you aren't comfortable with OMM or resent it, I wonder why you'd go DO in the first place?
Originally posted by Lexmark
Annushka ? I am quite aware of the NYCOM program. What I have heard is quite different from what you are saying. Let?s apply some common sense here (aka generalization) ? the biggest problem for foreign docs is getting a visa to work here. The NYCOM program only accepts legal residents. If said foreign doc is here legally with a degree recognized by the ECFMG then will they (a) take USMLE 1 & 2 , take CSA, apply to residency program ? cost approx $3,000, (b) go back to school for 3 years ? cost approx $100,000. Now if I were a US citizen that had attended a Caribbean school with hopes of transferring or was having problems with the school and had already invested a considerable sum, then this program starts to look attractive to me. I await your rebuttal with interest.
I agree. However, as I understand it, MD/PhD's programs pay for your education. I have never heard of a person turning down an MD/PhD program for DO. More power to you.Originally posted by annushka
I actually had a shot at an MD/PhD program, but my father talked me out of it. Why go to school for 7 years, he said, when you can go to a DO school now? You're still going to be a physician and you're still gonna treat people.
Originally posted by Slickness
I agree. However, as I understand it, MD/PhD's programs pay for your education. I have never heard of a person turning down an MD/PhD program for DO. More power to you.