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Why don't pharmacist hold control of the prescription side of medicine?

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by nabilesmail, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. nabilesmail

    nabilesmail 7+ Year Member

    Dec 25, 2009
    Just curious, my cousin , who is a pharamacist, brought up a point I found Interesting.

    He said doctors are so busy that they often do not keep up with the latest medicines and are coerced by pharm reps too often. He thought a good solution would be to have doctors be in charge of diagnosis and pharmacist be in charge of prescription based off that diagnosis

    Wouldn't this make more sense ? Doesnt a pharmacist have much more training in drug interactions, the drug market, half lives etc ?

    Sorry a bit buzzed and curious ;)
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  3. Socrates25

    Socrates25 7+ Year Member

    Aug 30, 2009
    Computers know more about medicines than pharmacists do. I have a better idea. Let the physicians diagnose and let the computer pick the medicine!

    Problem solved!
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  4. nabilesmail

    nabilesmail 7+ Year Member

    Dec 25, 2009
    True that haha
    Btw, the dude wasn't bashing on docs at all, rather he just felt bad about how much they have to work and how it's easy to Fall into pharm tech propaganda
  5. TennisBallAgainstDaWall

    TennisBallAgainstDaWall Account on Hold Account on Hold

    Jan 8, 2014
    Sure, pharmacists know more about the drugs, the the doctors know more about the interactions with the body and how they will respond to a certain patient. Also, what do you mean by "have control over" like it's its a turf war? Essentially, the doctors and pharmacists play to their strengths and collaborate to provide the best type of care for their patients! If not, that's how it should be! Lawllll
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  6. steven.a.smith

    steven.a.smith Account on Hold Account on Hold

    Jan 12, 2014
    After the patient does not respond to the medicine or has side effects let them call the pharmacist.
  7. lobo.solo

    lobo.solo 5+ Year Member

    May 4, 2011
    I know pharmacist in the wards are well appreciated by doctors, they usually are a good source of knowledge when handling a complex pt who is on many medications. I don't know about having them handle ALL the prescriptions...
  8. SouthernSurgeon

    SouthernSurgeon Physician Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 7+ Year Member

    Dec 17, 2008
    I would say, and I am really not trying to brag here, that 75% of the time when a pharmacist pages me about an issue on an order I wrote, I am right and they are wrong. Of the 25% of the time that they are right, more than half of those were due to a minor error in dosing or something like that rather than a gross error on my part.

    So no, I would not be in favor of them handling all med orders and dosing.

    That said, I am happy for their contributions and specialized knowledge in things like dosing of immunosuppressives for transplant patients, or our ICU pharmacist's knowledge of how to dose meds for CRRT.

    But the idea that we are somehow horribly tainted by big pharma and pharmacists would do a better job is foolish. For the obvious reason that if pharmacists had prescribing power, big pharma would go after them as much as they do MDs.
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  9. Microglia

    Microglia 5+ Year Member

    Jun 26, 2012
    Pharmacists are terrific to minimizing medication errors and knowing the drug mechanisms/interactions better than physicians. However, often they don't know the pathophysiologic states of the people being treated, and even if they did that area isn't their expertise. As a result, currently the scripts are written by the docs and the pharmacists catch the errors.
  10. darkjedi

    darkjedi how did this get here I am not good with computer Physician 7+ Year Member

    Oct 14, 2009
    There may also be nuances to a patients condition that makes a doctor prefer one drug over another that may not be readily evident to the pharmacist unless they go over the whole history of the patient. Medication is also usually just a single part of a treatment plan, and physicians like to make sure that everything fits together well.
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  11. mik30102

    mik30102 Pharmacist 5+ Year Member

    Oct 25, 2011
    Pharmacists know "more" about specialty drugs then PCPs, and know "more" about common drugs then specialized physicians. Personally I see the role of a pharmacist as a medication specialist to consult with. Just like a PCP needs to consult with a cardiologist for a major heart problem, a pharmacist should be there for unusual drug issues. However do to our deficiency in understanding certain pathophysiologies, and in my experience physicians knowing more about the 15 or so drugs they use in practice then the pharmacist I definitely do not feel the professions should be separated in the way OP described.
  12. VisceralFlame

    VisceralFlame Pediatric Resident 2+ Year Member

    Jan 13, 2013
    But then you wouldn't have the added benefit of the prescription being "checked" by two different medical professionals
  13. joonage

    joonage 7+ Year Member

    Nov 3, 2010
    In the end, whoever prescribes, Big Pharma will follow. Nobody is exempt from the pressure.
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  14. nabilesmail

    nabilesmail 7+ Year Member

    Dec 25, 2009
    Thanks for the education guys !

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