Why is DAT retake attempts limited?

Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by goonsquad, May 12, 2014.

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  1. goonsquad

    goonsquad 2+ Year Member

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    Why are you limited to 3 times to take the DAT (4 if you apply for permission) but you can take the MCAT an unlimited number of times? I have a few friends in med school that said you can take the MCAT as many times as you like. I was surprised when I heard this because of the limits we get for the DAT. Anyone have any idea why it is like this?
     
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  3. goonsquad

    goonsquad 2+ Year Member

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  4. distressstudent

    distressstudent 2+ Year Member

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    Probably because they don't want you to waste your time taking it so many times. This is for the applicant's sake more than it is for the DAT guys. Just look at the link sjv posted; it shows that scores barely change even after a retake. But sure, there are plenty of people just on SDN who do really well on retakes; usually on the 2nd retake, rarely on the 3rd, and never on the 4th. I mean, if you take your DAT four times and you still need to take it the 5th time, schools probably know pretty well where your aptitude stands. If you take the DAT for the fifth time, that's like a 12 months span at the earliest (3 months in between each); at that point, they might as well just look at your GPA.

    Besides... Even for MCAT, taking it an unlimited number of times is the official policy. But some schools might even have limits they set for their own school (like it was for SAT. anymore than 3 just hurts your chances)
     
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  5. ChrisM07

    ChrisM07 Dental School Hopeful 7+ Year Member

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    Right, the data posted suggests that the scores do not tend to increase with retakes but the question as to why there is a limit in the first place is still there. I guess that's their reasoning for it, but can you still expect this trend to exist for MCAT retakes too? If so, there is still no limit placed on MCAT takers.
     
  6. ChrisM07

    ChrisM07 Dental School Hopeful 7+ Year Member

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    Good points.
     
  7. sjv

    sjv SDN Moderator 2+ Year Member

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    Actually it does, the most recent data shows minimal improvement for people who retake. The limit exists because beyond 3 tries, substantial improvement is unlikely.

     
  8. Glimmer1991

    Glimmer1991 SDN Gold Donor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    I think they are nicely saying that if you can't hack the DAT on the 3rd try... You also probably can't hack dental school.
     
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  9. sjv

    sjv SDN Moderator 2+ Year Member

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    Also, you can take the DAT more than 3 times if you meet any of the requirements:

     
  10. distressstudent

    distressstudent 2+ Year Member

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    Well there you go. It also says, "Upon approval, you will be permitted to retake the DAT once per twelve-month period.
    The results of the four most recent DATs taken, as well as the total number of DATs taken, are
    released on the official score reports."
    That actually sounds like unlimited to me.
     
  11. saintguitar

    saintguitar 2+ Year Member

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    Well, I will try poking a good fun at Glimmer this time; I took the DAT 5 times (yes, 5 times), in which I had to send in my rejection letters from schools twice to the ADA to make myself eligible for the retakes. I will try to "hack" dental school this time around coming fall. :)
     
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  12. Glimmer1991

    Glimmer1991 SDN Gold Donor Gold Donor 5+ Year Member

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    There is always the exception!! :)
     
  13. doc toothache

    doc toothache 10+ Year Member

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    Possibly because dental school deans are baseball aficionados.
     
  14. skyguy1

    skyguy1 5+ Year Member

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    honestly why does it matter if there is a limit or not...
     
  15. goonsquad

    goonsquad 2+ Year Member

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    It doesn't matter to me that there is a limit. Just thought it was strange that there is no limit on MCAT attempts.
     

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